Turkey's Erdogan holds talks with leaders on lowering Qatar tension

[帅的一匹]

The explanation is quite simple brother. Every single terrorists group in Pakistan is financed by the Saudi family or by there extremists ideology which has claimed thousands of lives in our country. Furthermore, in the past they have intervened and given a jail free card to Pakistani politicians that are corrupt. If Saudi Arabia was a true friend of Pakistan then it wouldn't have a friendly relationship with India. The Kingdom is protected by 10,000 Pakistani troops, yet they have invested peanuts in our country. Does this mean Pakistani people hate Saudi people. No way, in fact we love our fellow Muslim brothers, and our bond with them will never break, however, the ruling family is another case. But I will never accept the idea of Turkey attacking Saudi Arabia and vice versa. One day this entire bloc will be united under one banner and hopefully our relationship with China will be strong.

Thank you for you info bro!

If my memory serves me right, it's Pakistan introduce China to build diplomatic ties with KSA in 1970s.

 

[BaybarsHan]

ok linglong go home

 

[Divergent]

Qatar maybe facing an imminent food shortage (and hyper inflation) since 40% of its food supplies come through its only land border which Saudi Arabia has shut down. And UAE just made it a CRIME to express sympathy for Qatar on social media punishable by up to 15 years in prison. What better way to express love for your 'brotherly state' on this blessed month, am I right? Ramadan Mubarak!

 

[UkroTurk]

Personal idea,Partly right,partly wrong
Right part:we don't like Turks
Wrong part:the reason is not about market collision;from technical view,there is no comparison,totally deffrent level.
The biggest reason is about your government support Uighur terrorist

It was an old american propagand(Chinese goverment suffers - kills Uygurs and Turkey backs Uygurs) against Chinese-Turkish corparations when we started planning purchasing Chinese airdefence systems.
This guy musnt be Chinese at least the Chinese men are more clever.
This guy must be our envy neighboor with historical complex.

 

[Finer]

It only means there are historical grudges between Turkey and KSA. Desire for power in the Middle East.


@T-Rex are you a member of MB?


Those Ottoman Empire fancy shall have an end. Now it's 21 Centaury. The land belonged to Arabians, why the descendants of the Ottoman Empire still linger around it.

Ottoman Empire is what kept British Kingdom/Russia at bay for years. To the extent, Ottoman Empire would have kept USA at bay as well.

The collapse of Ottoman Empire meant the beginning of destruction for Middle East simply because Arab wanted Arab nationalism despite enjoying protection from Ottoman Empire for centurions.

Suffice to say, Arab got what they wanted and now they are complaining about nobody from Muslim worlds is coming to the rescue. To the extent, Pakistan is often blamed for not getting involved in Middle East.

I mean who asked them to betray Ottoman Empire that was keeping British Kingdom and Russia at bay for years from unleashing destruction in Middle East.

Now it comes to the point that Arabs are fighting each other under the name of either nationalism or sectarian, or you name it.

 

[Melkor]

Omg, how can i live with that....


There are many well established Chinese members in this forum....but every nation has it's lunatics.

Fair enough.

 

[帅的一匹]

It was an old american propagand(Chinese goverment suffers - kills Uygurs and Turkey backs Uygurs) against Chinese-Turkish corparations when we started planning purchasing Chinese airdefence systems.
This guy musnt be Chinese at least the Chinese men are more clever.
This guy must be our envy neighboor with historical complex.

Yeh, I'm a Greek. lol.

 

[T-Rex]

Yeh, I'm a Greek. lol.

Or perhaps you are one of those Dalailamas from Tibet, just like your indian masters secretly trying to make it easier for the US to rob Qatar!

 

[UkroTurk]

Dalailamas from Tibet,

In Turkish we call "Dallama."

 

[帅的一匹]

Or perhaps you are one of those Dalailamas from Tibet, just like your indian masters secretly trying to make it easier for the US to rob Qatar!

ok linglong go home

Post reported.

 

[T-Rex]

Why you have Turkey flag? You try to fool me.


Come on, Qatar also fund Daesh. Don't tell me ISIS love Israel.

So you don't mind the SA connection but you are totally against tiny Qatar air dropping arms to Daesh with their C-135s right? Buddy you have taken too much of that Uighur dope.

Erdogan's son bought oils from ISIS, and the motorcade was blasted to smithering by Russia Air Force. His daughter build up a hospital to treat ISIS injures. Anyone deny it?

Says one Erdogan hater!

 

[Melkor]

Post reported.

You should be reported for your imbecilic claims.

 

[T-Rex]

You should be reported for your imbecilic claims.

Please assure this hallucinating Chinese that Erdogan has no interest in taking his Uighurs away from him. He should carefully watch his FETO buddies instead of blaming it on Erdogan.

 

[Banglar Bir]

Analysis: Why is Turkey deploying troops to Qatar?
Turkey's decision is not necessarily anti-Saudi, but it is definitely pro-Qatari, say analysts.

Turkey agrees with many aspects of Qatar's foreign policy vision, according to analysts [AP] Birce Bora
Only two days after Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain severed diplomatic relations with Qatar for its alleged support of "terrorist organisations", Turkey's parliament has ratified military deals allowing its troops to be deployed to a Turkish military base in Qatar. Turkish analysts talking to Al Jazeera interpreted the move as "an apparent show of support for Qatar".

"This indeed suggests that Turkey sees its defence ties with Qatar as an indispensable pillar of its strategic posture in the region," Can Kasapoglu, a defence analyst from Turkey's EDAM, told Al Jazeera. "It also shows that Ankara would not drastically alter its long-term vision for regional fluctuations."

"Turkey has had a base and soldiers in Qatar for a while," Kadir Ustun, the executive director of the SETA Foundation in Washington, DC, explained. "Increasing Turkish presence there at this point might be an attempt to reassure Qatar."

Turkey set up a military base in Qatar, its first such installation in the Middle East, as part of an agreement signed in 2014. The base, which has a capacity to accommodate up to 5,000 troops, already hosts 200 Turkish soldiers.

Late on Wednesday, two deals were ratified in Turkey's parliament; one allowing Turkish troops to be deployed in Qatar and another approving an accord between the two countries on military training cooperation.

Both agreements, which were drawn up before the spat between Qatar and its neighbours erupted, were brought to parliament by MPs from Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party (AKP) in an extraordinary session.

A power projection asset
"The military base in Qatar is an important power projection asset for Turkey," said Kasapoglu. "Turkey has always considered Qatar an important strategic ally in the region, and it is using this base to demonstrate this view."

Yet analysts added that it is important not to read Turkey's decision to deploy troops in to Qatar as "picking a side" in the spat that rocked the Gulf.

"Turkey's military base in Qatar has always been, and still is, a symbolic gesture and nothing more," said Atilla Yesilada, a political analyst with Istanbul's Global Source Partners.

"While Turkey values its partnership with Qatar, and does not approve the foreign policy vision Saudi Arabia is trying to enforce on the small but influential emirate, it is also not willing to - and can not afford to - pick a fight with Riyadh".

"The ratification of the military treaties is not an anti-Saudi move at all," Kasapoglu added. "Turkey still sticks to 'I don't want problems between my two good friends' policy.

"Yet, although this is not an anti-Saudi position, it is a pro-Qatari one for sure. Ankara prioritised its geopolitical perspective, and showed that it holds its military presence [in Qatar] above the recent diplomatic crisis."

On the same side
Turkey and Qatar have a long history of being on the same side of regional conflicts and developments. They both provided support for the Egyptian revolution and condemned the military coup that brought the country's current leader, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, in to power.

Riyadh is viewing Iran as an existential threat, yet Qatar, much like Turkey, has been following a rather complicated and multilayered strategy against Iran.

They also refuse to classify Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas as "terrorist organisations" and they both backed rebels fighting to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad in Syria.

Their partnership in regional politics gained further strength after Qatari Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani showed strong support for the Turkish government and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan during and after last July's failed coup attempt.

Qatar and Turkey are also following a similar strategy "of balance" in their relations with Iran. Analysts explained that at the moment Saudi Arabia and the UAE, with Donald Trump's support and encouragement, are trying to form a unified front to isolate Iran completely.

Qatar, as a result of its refusal to follow a hawkish strategy against the Islamic Republic, is being perceived as the "weakest link" in this anti-Iran Gulf alliance, analysts said.

Turkey, with its strong trade links to Iran and apparent unwillingness to have a confrontation with its neighbour, is supporting Doha's approach to the Iranian threat.

"Riyadh is viewing Iran as an existential threat, yet Qatar, much like Turkey, has been following a rather complicated and multilayered strategy against Iran," said Yesilada.

"Turkey is in loggerheads with Iran in Iraq and Syria, but it is also continuing its growing trade relationship with this neighbour - and this compartmentalised relationship is making Riyadh question the strength of Turkey's position in the alliance that is forming against Iran in the Middle East".

"Their attitude towards Iran is putting Qatar and Turkey in the same camp, once again."

Analysts explained that Turkey would do everything it can to resist the US and Saudi pressure to turn its historic rivalry with Iran into enmity. "Turkey and Iran had long been compertmentalising their relations," Kasapoglu explained.

"They faced each other in Iraq and Syria, but this did not stop the Iranian Foreign Minister from visiting Turkey, or affected the two countries' trade relations."

"Turkey agrees to many aspects of Qatar's foreign policy vision, and President Erdogan made it clear that he does not agree with the accusations Riyadh directed at Qatar," Yesilada said. "On subjects like Palestine, Egypt, Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood, two countries are definitely on the same page."

"But this does not mean Turkey is willing to jeopardize its relations with Saudi Arabia or the UAE."

Resolving the crisis through dialogue
Turkey also enjoys strong political and economic relations with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The two countries signed a special agreement in April last year to establish a team specifically tasked with strengthening bilateral trade ties.

"Turkey wants to increase its share in the global arms trade," said Kasapoglu. "Ankara believes this is a perquisite to becoming a global power and it rightly identifies Saudi Arabia as a sustainable and hungry market."

"Turkey is expected to sign a major export deal to sell several national corvettes to Saudi Arabia in the near future," he added. "If the deal comes to fruition, it is going to be Turkey's largest arms export deal to this day and Ankara is not eager to jeopardise this opportunity."

Yesilada pointed out that Turkey also needs Saudi Arabia to stay a "trusted strategic partner".

"Ankara is aware of Riyadh's growing friendship with the new US administration and it wants to open up a new channel for dialogue with Donald Trump through Saudi Arabia," he said.

"Of course, this does not mean Turkey is going to abandon Qatar, but it is safe to say that Ankara won't be openly positioning itself against Riyadh."

Turkey supports resolving the crisis within the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) through diplomacy, Ustun said. "I think Turkey is not interested in being seen as on 'one side' of a dispute like this," he added.

"At the moment, Turkey does not want anybody to 'win' the conflict that is ripping apart the GCC," Kasapoglu said. "Turkey wants the GCC to swiftly solve its internal problems and show a unified front to the world and to their mutual adversaries."
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...y-deploying-troops-qatar-170607174911372.html

 

[mike2000 is back]

It was an old american propagand(Chinese goverment suffers - kills Uygurs and Turkey backs Uygurs) against Chinese-Turkish corparations when we started planning purchasing Chinese airdefence systems.
This guy musnt be Chinese at least the Chinese men are more clever.
This guy must be our envy neighboor with historical complex.

Lol so now it's the U S that pushed or brainwashed Erdogan in supporting Uyghurs cause in China?
Some people here are so used in blaming all their actions on the West.

I believe Erdogan has his own reasons and interests in supporting the Uyghurs cause(since according to some they are related to the Turks ) and giving them refuge in Turkey( the west never forced him to do that), just like he supports the Muslim brotherhood. It's not because of U.S propaganda or whatever.

Ottoman Empire is what kept British Kingdom/Russia at bay for years. To the extent, Ottoman Empire would have kept USA at bay as well.

The collapse of Ottoman Empire meant the beginning of destruction for Middle East simply because Arab wanted Arab nationalism despite enjoying protection from Ottoman Empire for centurions.

Suffice to say, Arab got what they wanted and now they are complaining about nobody from Muslim worlds is coming to the rescue. To the extent, Pakistan is often blamed for not getting involved in Middle East.

I mean who asked them to betray Ottoman Empire that was keeping British Kingdom and Russia at bay for years from unleashing destruction in Middle East.

Now it comes to the point that Arabs are fighting each other under the name of either nationalism or sectarian, or you name it.

Actually we were supporting the Ottomans in the beginning mainly as a buffer against Soviet Russia. It was only after the Ottomans sided with the Germans against us that we changed our policy and got involved in dismantling the Ottoman empire.
Our main rival was Soviet Russia and then Germany as the country was rising and preparing for war per WWI, the Ottomans just happened to have sided with the wrong side during the war and paid the price for it, just like other countries who sided with the wrong side during those 2 terrible wars (Germany, Japan, Italy etc).