Turkey wants free movement for its citizens in Europe in exchange for stopping Refugees.

[-SINAN-]

As long as you find it ok that the wannabe sultan thinks he can blackmail the EU,i also find it apropiate to slap him with sanctions if he acts like he's running a pirate state.He might end up like Gaddafi ,the last tyrant with grandeur illusions who saw fit to use blackmail.

Seems like Marcus hijacked your account. If you think that you can beat Turkey militarily in Anatolia, you are more than welcome to try. No foreign nation had been able to achieve that feat in the history.

 

[flamer84]

Seems like Marcus hijacked your account. If you think that you can beat Turkey militarily in Anatolia, you are more than welcome to try. No foreign nation had been able to achieve that feat in the history.

Who said anything about beating them militarily ? I've said economic sanctions.

 

[-SINAN-]

Who said anything about beating them militarily ? I've said economic sanctions.

Go ahead. You are daydreaming and making irrational statements.

Europe trying to find a solution for refugee crisis. And makes it worse by both hurting Turkish economy and it's economy. More to add enraged Turkey opens the flood gates and adds refugees in their voyage to Europe.

It seems like this whole refugee crisis issue, affected you in a bad way.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Who said anything about beating them militarily ? I've said economic sanctions.

Calm down bro
To be honest we cant blame Turkey that much. Since its only looking out for its own interests like any sane country does. So i find it normal for Turkey to ask the E.U to gve its citizens free movement/right of entry. Its true that if this was to happen(i know it wont), then million more Turks and most of all middle eastern/south Asian and African economic immigrants will seek to get/forge Turkish papers just like they have been doing with Syria lately, since this will give them free/easy access to Europe. So we won't obviously agree to Turkeys request on this one.

The solution here is very simple, we should allow Eastern European countries to do what they wanted to do in the first place i.e place strict restrictions and even shut borders entirely when need be/send back any illegal immigrants caught to their home country. This will discourage other young able middle eastern/south Asian and African men who would otherwise have done all they could to make the journey.

In short merkels policies of trying to act like she is mother Theresa have only made things farrrrrr worse for E.U countries and encouraged migrants all over the region to immigrte to Europe/Germany.

So i dont blame Turkey at all. I blame western European liberal political correct leaders.

At least we have outright rejected any of these fake refugees despite merkels and E.U calls for us to accept them.lol .

Thank GOD we still mantained our independence From E.U. It was the right choice .

UK minister rejects EU migration pact, vows tighter borders

Theresa May: UK will not participate in EU migrant resettlement proposals | Politics | The Guardian

 

[Declein]

Mike, first of all, i don't understand how you Europeans think that you can stop the refugee flux.... these people comes through Turkey via ISIS controlled areas (risk of beheading), cross the mine zone between Turkey and Syria on foot, cross rivers, barbed wires and risk of being shot by Turkish soldiers. And you still think that you can stop them by physical means.
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Oh c'mon Sinan, ask yourself why don't the immigrants go to China? Or Japan, South Korea, Australia, etc.
Of course it can be stopped, shouldn't take more than a month and no violent means are necessary.

Announce loudly that any (illegal) immigrant caught in the Eu is immediately shipped back, that there are 0 benefits waiting and they will not receive any money and you're half way there.

In the mean time triage them on some Greek island and accept the true war refugees in and not every Tom, Dick and Harry who heard free money is flowing in Germany.

 

[xenon54 out]

The agreement is not about stopping the refugees but taking them back in exchange for visa agreement.

 

[-SINAN-]

Oh c'mon Sinan, ask yourself why don't the immigrants go to China? Or Japan, South Korea, Australia, etc.
Of course it can be stopped, shouldn't take more than a month and no violent means are necessary.

Announce loudly that any (illegal) immigrant caught in the Eu is immediately shipped back, that there are 0 benefits waiting and they will not receive any money and you're half way there.

In the mean time triage them on some Greek island and accept the true war refugees in and not every Tom, Dick and Harry who heard free money is flowing in Germany.

Time will tell. I still believe what i have told you. Why they are not going to China, Japan, South Korea. Because those countries are at the other side of the planet and they are total alien for ME.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Time will tell. I still believe what i have told you. Why they are not going to China, Japan, South Korea. Because those countries are at the other side of the planet and they are total alien for ME.

No truth is they know that if they try that in East Asia, they will immediately be deported back to their country or put in camps.

 

[Azizam]

Time will tell. I still believe what i have told you. Why they are not going to China, Japan, South Korea. Because those countries are at the other side of the planet and they are total alien for ME.

The problem is not distance. The problem is the liberal attitude. Australia is closer to many 3rd world countries and many migrants come to Australia too but it refuses to take any. Otherwise the entire South East Asia, South Asia would end up in Australia. Europe has to ditch the attitude of championing human rights, it's a problem for both themselves and outsiders.


Jeremy Corbyn to raise China's human rights record at state banquet | Politics | The Guardian

 

[mike2000 is back]

The problem is not distance. The problem is the liberal attitude. Australia is closer to many 3rd world countries and many migrants come to Australia too but it refuses to take any. Otherwise the entire South East Asia, South Asia would end up in Australia. Europe has to ditch the attitude of championing human rights, it's a problem for both themselves and outsiders.


Jeremy Corbyn to raise China's human rights record at state banquet | Politics | The Guardian

100% agree. Our leaders should look at Australia's example of howto deal with these so called 'refugees'. Australia just sends them packing to their countries, since it knows if it tries to be liberal/act like mother Theresa the way central European leaders like Merkel do, then they will be flooded by immigrants from South Asia and South East Asia. Australia doesn't give a shit about what human rights organization say, they do what they think will be better for their country in the long run.

 

[type93]

I'd rather take my chances with refugees than give Turks free movement in Europe. If turkey is given free movement, then 80 million die hard Isis supporters will have access to every European cities versus 300 000 Syrians in which only a small percent may be Isis supporters

 

[oproh]

Aren't europe and turkey nato brothers, go on europe open your borders and help turkey in accepting migrants.