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Turkey Is Changing the Middle East. The U.S. Doesn’t Get It.
Leadership of the Islamic world is shifting, weakening the anti-Iran coalition.

By
Hussein Ibish
14. März 2019, 07:00 MEZ
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Getting stronger. Photographer: Emrah Yorulmaz/Anadolu Agency/Getty Images
Hussein Ibish is a senior resident scholar at the Arab Gulf States Institute in Washington.


The Middle East is changing fast but the U.S. seems to be the last government to realize it and respond.

For at least 10 years, the region has been caricatured as divided into two camps: a pro-Iranian coalition and a looser but larger group that opposes Iran's ambitions. For short, it’s sometimes foolishly reduced to a Sunni-Shiite sectarian divide.

That was always a distortion, and it's become increasingly clear that, while the pro- and anti-Iranian camps do exist, there’s also a distinctive third bloc emerging, with a Sunni Islamist orientation, led by Turkey. Ankara is turning into a major regional player with its own agenda, ambitions, ideology and allies.

QuicktakeU.S. and Turkey at Odds

The key players in the anti-Iranian group are pro-American: Arab states like Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Jordan and Israel. The war in Syria unified this group with Turkey and its allies starting in 2011, in shared opposition to the Iranian-backed dictator Bashar Assad.

But when rebel-held parts of Aleppo fell to pro-Assad forces in December, 2016, the Syrian war effectively ended along with the united front against Iran. Turkey instead began to focus on containing Kurdish militias in northern Syria and forging a partnership with Russia, Iran and Assad. It no longer views Iran as an adversary, but as a rival or, sometimes, a partner.

Turkey's role at the epicenter of a new Middle East alliance was consolidated by the 2017 boycott of Qatar by Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain and Egypt. Qatar has relied on Turkey, which maintains a military base in that country, for support against the boycott. Qatar also needs to maintain cordial relations with Iran because those countries share a natural gas field that provides Qatar with its huge per capita income.

Qatar and Turkey also back the regional Sunni Islamist Muslim Brotherhood movement, and its support for those organizations, including Hamas, was a major cause of the boycott. During the Syrian war, Hamas had to choose between its Sunni Islamist identity and its alliance with Shiite Iran and Alawite Syria, where it was headquartered. Eventually it fled Syria, abandoning assets and property.

But now, just as Turkey and Qatar are growing closer to Iran, Hamas is renewing its Iranian ties.

Israel and most pro-American Arab states view the consolidation of this Turkish-led coalition with alarm partly because it weakens the anti-Iranian camp.

Moreover, if Turkey — finally turning away from Europe after a century of unsuccessful efforts to integrate with the West — fixes its gaze eastward, it could become a regional hegemon as ambitious as Iran and more effective.

Turkey has a larger economy, more sophisticated technology and a stronger military. It also remains a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Turkey isn't as disruptive as Iran, but could become so, or at least as domineering, over the long run.

Turkey has not hidden its growing ambition to revive the dominance that the Ottoman Empire enjoyed over much of the Islamic world. At a recent rally, Turkish Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu declared, “We are not only just Turkey, but also Damascus, Aleppo, Kirkuk, Jerusalem, Palestine, Mecca and Medina.”

Former U.S. officials involved in counterterrorism campaigns in the region say they have seen Turkish government maps showing their spheres of influence extending to into Saudi Arabia and down to Basra, Iraq.

Turkey’s longstanding rivalry with Saudi Arabia, which dates to the early 19th century, has erupted again, and was on full display during the diplomatic crisis over the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi by Saudi agents at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on Oct. 2, 2018.

In the ensuing uproar, Turkey was careful not to rupture all ties with Riyadh. But its government did everything it could to embarrass and weaken Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan used the fracas to declare that “Turkey is the only country that can lead the Muslim world.” That's a direct rejection of the implicit claim of Saudi Arabia and the explicit claim of Iran to global Islamic leadership.

Annual conferences in Turkey bring together Erdogan’s AKP party with Arab Muslim Brothers from around the region to promote a Turkish-led Sunni Islamist political agenda.

Israel and Arab countries like Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Egypt are alarmed that they not only have to deal with expanding Iranian influence, but now face a Sunni Islamist alliance led by Turkey and financed by Qatar.

And they fear that if this coalition thrives, it could grow to include currently pro-American states such as Jordan and Kuwait.

The administration of President Donald Trump has been slow to react. Despite warnings from the diplomatic and security experts who formerly worked for Trump, there’s no sign that key U.S. leaders, including National Security Adviser John Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, have figured out how to respond.

Now that Turkey is no longer a U.S. partner in the Middle East and has an agenda that clashes with the interests of the U.S. and its Israeli and Arab allies, changes in U.S. attitudes are required. That involves developing alternatives to the Incirlik Air Base in southern Turkey and cutting back on military cooperation and supplies, especially given Turkey’s provocative determination to purchase Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missiles.

The U.S. must be clear about its own expectations and leverage the cooperation that Turkey still needs to ensure that Erdogan respects the interests of the U.S.-led Middle East partnership.

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Now that Turkey is no longer a U.S. partner in the Middle East and has an agenda that clashes with the interests of the U.S. and its Israeli and Arab allies, changes in U.S. attitudes are required. That involves developing alternatives to the Incirlik Air Base in southern Turkey and cutting back on military cooperation and supplies, especially given Turkey’s provocative determination to purchase Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missiles.
It sounds like a Stratfor story with no science fiction is involved.
 
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan used the fracas to declare that “Turkey is the only country that can lead the Muslim world.” That's a direct rejection of the implicit claim of Saudi Arabia and the explicit claim of Iran to global Islamic leadership.

I honestly laughed out loud when I first heard Erdogan say that!
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Not only does this guy have a big mouth, he's quite delusional and drunk on his own self admiration.

Annual conferences in Turkey bring together Erdogan’s AKP party with Arab Muslim Brothers from around the region to promote a Turkish-led Sunni Islamist political agenda.

Israel and Arab countries like Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Egypt are alarmed that they not only have to deal with expanding Iranian influence, but now face a Sunni Islamist alliance led by Turkey and financed by Qatar.

And they fear that if this coalition thrives, it could grow to include currently pro-American states such as Jordan and Kuwait.

lol, all those powerful countries are worried about some Turkish delusion? Let's get real, now. :-)
 
lol, all those powerful countries are worried about some Turkish delusion? Let's get real, now. :-)
Let's get real that MB was in charge of Egypt until the coup, MB still holds in Egypt despite all. I would say not only in Egypt. The only powerful country is Israel among those, and it's only in comparison to the listed countries.
 
ERDOGAN can meet with 1 million Egyptians in Cairo
ERDOGAN can meet with 1 million Iranians in Tabriz and Taheran
ERDOGAN can meet with 1 million Palestinians in Palestine
ERDOGAN can meet with 1 million Muslims in Balkans
ERDOGAN can meet with 1 million Muslims in Iraq and Syria

Nobody gives a shit to pathetic puppet criminal dictators SISI and MBS

even British Arnold Toynbee said that We can buy Arabs , so Arabs are not threat to Christian world
but Istanbul-Buhara-Pakistan line led by the Turks can organize Islamic World again





the US-Israel and Saudis supported dictator SISI to destroy alliance between Turkey and Egypt

insect Israel and lapdog Saudis shit their pants

without traitor criminal puppet dictators like SISI,Saudi Family,etc the US,the UK are nothing in the Middle East


the US,the UK and Israel are very hapy with lapdogs SISI , Saudi Family,etc


Pathetic slave Arabs
 
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but Istanbul-Buhara-Pakistan line led by the Turks can organize Islamic World again

Unfortunately Turkey is still one foot in the West and this is making Turkey drag its feet when it comes to leaving NATO. Turkish alliance with China and expansion of influence into CAR is a must.

It is my view that Pakistan under Imran Khan will be the next leader of the Muslim world. His policies are sound and he is not afraid to speak his mind.

We need to work together to bring Iran out of the sectarian mindset and back to normalcy so that we can create a bloc stretching from Istanbul-Tehran-Islamabad.
 
Unfortunately Turkey is still one foot in the West and this is making Turkey drag its feet when it comes to leaving NATO. Turkish alliance with China and expansion of influence into CAR is a must.

It is my view that Pakistan under Imran Khan will be the next leader of the Muslim world. His policies are sound and he is not afraid to speak his mind.

We need to work together to bring Iran out of the sectarian mindset and back to normalcy so that we can create a bloc stretching from Istanbul-Tehran-Islamabad.


well here we go, Iran and Turkey are getting closer each day.

Turkey, Iran launch joint raid against Kurdish rebels – minister

https://www.timesofisrael.com/turkey-iran-launch-joint-raid-against-kurdish-rebels-minister/
 
Unfortunately Turkey is still one foot in the West

only on paper , in reality the West attacks Turkey since 1990s
Communist USSR was collapsed in 1991 ,
ISLAM and Islamic World is the new enemy for the West ... even British Margaret Thatcher said this

after 1991 the West led by the US attacked Muslim countries Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria,Libya,etc

and zionist CIA,MI6 and MOSSAD with Saudi Family created so-called Islamic terrorist organizations , salafi-wahabi AL QAEDA,ISIS,HTS,etc


btw Pakistan is dependent on China



Turkish alliance with China and expansion of influence into CAR is a must.

zionist backed communist China will be one of the biggest enemy to Islamic World



It is my view that Pakistan under Imran Khan will be the next leader of the Muslim world. His policies are sound and he is not afraid to speak his mind.

Pakistan is nothing for Islamic World in History and Pakistan has no potential to be leader of the Muslim world

the TURKS kicked Crusaders and the Turks fought over 100 times against Christians to protect Islamic World in the last 1.000 years

-- Turkey is the strongest country in Islamic World
-- Turkey has great soft power from Bosnia to China
-- only Turkey develops over 600 military projects in Islamic World
-- the last caliph of Islam was a Turk
-- Islam's sacred relics that belonged to key figures in history, including old manuscripts are in Istanbul/Turkey

Turks have great experience to rule nations
16 Turkic Empires ruled India,Iran,Anatolia,all Middle East,Egypt,N.Africa,Balkans,etc for centuries in peace and justice


We need to work together to bring Iran out of the sectarian mindset and back to normalcy so that we can create a bloc stretching from Istanbul-Tehran-Islamabad.


forget about sectarian Persians who are allies with VATICAN against Islamic World
and Arabs are slaves ,, We need to save Arabs from puppet criminal dictators who works for American-British-Israeli interests


We can create a bloc stretching from Istanbul-Buhara-Islamabad ,,, but We need for decades , maybe 50 years
 
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Kurds are being supported by the big boy, US government, don't believe that Turks and Iranians can really do any harm to them. Instead, you guys should think how to give a way something, let the Kurds live with their pride.
 
Kurds are being supported by the big boy, US government, don't believe that Turks and Iranians can really do any harm to them. Instead, you guys should think how to give a way something, let the Kurds live with their pride.

Dude, you and your kin not only far from those issues "geoghraphically" but also "mentally" have no idea about things in the Middle-East. As proved by the comment above.
 
Dude, you and your kin not only far from those issues "geoghraphically" but also "mentally" have no idea about things in the Middle-East. As proved by the comment above.

No you are the stupid side to think that you have free hands on Kurds. No you don't!

Dude, you and your kin not only far from those issues "geoghraphically" but also "mentally" have no idea about things in the Middle-East. As proved by the comment above.

That's a price you have to pay for interfering on the Uyghur issue!
 
No you are the stupid side to think that you have free hands on Kurds. No you don't!

Millions of Kurds including the last prime minister of Turkey BINALI YILDIRIM so hate communist terrorist organization Pkk/Ypg

and stop calling communist terrorist organization Pkk/Ypg as Kurd ( top 5 leader of Pkk terrorist organization , including founder of Pkk ,OCALAN are not Kurd , but Armenian)

2/3 of Pkk terrorists from Syria,Iraq and Iran

Muslim Kurds are not stupid to lose beautiful and rich cities Istanbul,Ankara,Izmir,Kocaeli,Bursa,Antalya,Mugla,Mersin,etc for so-called garbage Kurdistan and for shitty Communist Pkk/Ypg terrorist organization
 
Millions of Kurds including the last prime minister of Turkey BINALI YILDIRIM so hate communist terrorist organization Pkk/Ypg

and stop calling communist terrorist organization Pkk/Ypg as Kurd ( top 5 leader of Pkk terrorist organization , including founder of Pkk ,OCALAN are not Kurd , but Armenian)

2/3 of Pkk terrorists from Syria,Iraq and Iran

Muslim Kurds are not stupid to lose beautiful and rich cities Istanbul,Ankara,Izmir,Kocaeli,Bursa,Antalya,Mugla,Mersin,etc for so-called garbage Kurdistan and for shitty Communist Pkk/Ypg terrorist organization

They are supported by the US, or to some extend by the EU. You Turks dont fool youself that you can finish the Kurdish terrorists. You are the invaders to their land. It's not our buziness but we can also let you pay for your aggresive wrong doings on China.

It's not about ideology, you fool!
 

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