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Turkey Could Double Its Arms Budget
Jun. 28, 2014 -By BURAK EGE BEKDIL

ANKARA— Turkey, which has been spending around US $4 billion a year on weapons and upgrades, may double that to meet procurement goals for 2023.

For about a decade, the country’s overall defense budgets have remained around $10 billion a year, or 1.25 percent of its $800 billion gross domestic product, said a top aide to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

“This is less than the NATO requirements, and much less than what a country like Turkey actually needs,” the aide said. “Turkey, in its geostrategic position, faces multiple conventional and asymmetrical threats, and it would be more convenient if it spent 2 to 2.5 percent on defense.”

NATO leaders have encouraged members to spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense, but even the few that do sometimes struggle to meet the mark. By comparison, Russia spends 4.5 percent of its GDP on defense.

“Economic crisis has shrunk defense spending. Only five or six member nations have reached the 2 percent benchmark,” said Timo Koster, who directs defense policy and planning at NATO headquarters.

But Turkey’s economy, now the world’s 17th-largest, has been growing quickly. Annual growth rates in the past decade have sometimes exceeded 5 percent. In 2013, the growth rate stood at 4 percent, a rate expected to hold steady for the next five years.

That would raise Turkey’s national income to $936 billion by the end of 2018. If Turkey by then spent 2 percent of its income on defense, this would mean an annual defense budget of $18.7 billion; if it spent 2.5 percent on defense, this would translate to a $23.4 billion defense budget.

Turkey spends about 40 percent of its defense budget on new equipment and upgrades, so its procurement budget by the end of 2018 would reach nearly $7.5 billion, assuming an annual 4 percent growth rate and that the government decides to reach the NATO benchmark; and nearly $9.5 billion if it decides to go beyond the benchmark to attain 2.5 percent.

“It would be truly realistic if Turkey, even today, spends $20 billion on defense [and $8 billion on procurement],” the government official said. “The government may rethink the present spending level in the near future.”

Defense analysts say a jump in the procurement budget would be no surprise.

“The economy is performing very well. Equally importantly, Prime Minister Erdogan has a big portfolio of ambitious programs to finance. Some of these mostly indigenous programs are his signature projects, and he loves to use them to catch votes,” said one Ankara-based analyst.

Ankara has ambitions to celebrate the republic’s centennial in 2023 with dozens of high-profile armament programs they hope will have been successfully concluded by then.

A list of ongoing and announced programs highlight nearly $70 billion worth of spending until 2023, excluding relatively small programs and others the government may launch from now on.

Among the largest:

■ $16 billion for 100 F-35 joint strike fighters.

■ $10 billion to develop its indigenous fighter, TF-X, with another $20 billion to produce the aircraft.

■ $4.5 billion to upgrade its F-16s.

■ $4 billion for new submarines.

■ $3.5 billion for utility helicopters.

■ $3.5 billion for the long-range air and anti-missile defense system.

■ $3 billion for attack helicopters.

■ $2.5 billion for the indigenous tank Altay.

■ $2.5 billion for corvettes under the MILGEM program.

■ $2.4 billion for the aerial warning and control aircraft.

■ $1.5 billion for the local development of helicopters.

■ $1.5 billion for the A400M heavy-lift aircraft.

■ $1 billion for the landing dock platform ship.

■ $1 billion for indigenous satellites.

■ $1 billion for a satellite-launch center.

■ $1 billion for locally developed frigates.

■ $1 billion for new armored vehicles.

■ $1 billion for electronic warfare systems.

■ $1 billion for drones and electro-optical systems.

■ $750 million for the locally developed Hurkus basic trainer.

■ Unknown billions for a locally developed infantry rifle. ■


Turkey Could Double Its Arms Budget | Defense News | defensenews.com
 
Shit is boiling in the region. It is time to prepare an army that is capable of sweeping up the neighborhood if necessary. All neighbors of Turkey are unstable unfortunately. Luckily we have Azerbaijan in the region who is also growing their military very fast.
 
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you mentionted Azerbaycan do we have joint military bases in Azerbaycan?

to the topic: hmm I think its not the real military budget.. for all the new and good improvements it sounds too low
 
Shit is boiling in the region. It is time to prepare an army that is capable of sweeping up the neighborhood if necessary. All neighbors of Turkey are unstable unfortunately. Luckily we have Azerbaijan in the region who is also growing their military very fast.

Expand your territory to ensure stability in the region.
 
you mentionted Azerbaycan do we have joint military bases in Azerbaycan?

to the topic: hmm I think its not the real military budget.. for all the new and good improvements it sounds too low

Theres a joint Turko-Azeri military force at Brigade scale stationed at Nahcivan
 
At the Nato summit in Wales Obama said that all Nato nations agreed to eventually increase their defence budgets to 2 %
 
At the Nato summit in Wales Obama said that all Nato nations agreed to eventually increase their defence budgets to 2 %
Well, at the the moment it seems like we are heading to another cold war and rearming is in again, even highly pacifized Japan is getting militarized now.
 
Well, at the the moment it seems like we are heading to another cold war and rearming is in again, even highly pacifized Japan is getting militarized now.
Yeah. This time things will be interesting, Russia and China are looking to take out the dollar so that will be the main cause of conflict in the future imo because the dollar being the world reserve currency is what makes the u.s the super power it is today.
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Obama said that he will be helping out georgia and moldova. Russia wants transdiniester from moldova so this is a major development.

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Turkey will be an important nation in this new conflict because obama said that their will be more patrols in the black sea. Also obama is making a coalition to fight isis. Turkey will most likely be involved in both of these plans.

That should be $80 billion without indigenous engines(another $40 billion).
I think the cost of tfx will be between 15- 20 billion for development.
 
Yeah. This time things will be interesting, Russia and China are looking to take out the dollar so that will be the main cause of conflict in the future imo because the dollar being the world reserve currency is what makes the u.s the super power it is today.
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Obama said that he will be helping out georgia and moldova. Russia wants transdiniester from moldova so this is a major development.

Transdniestria-Eastern-Europe-Map-March-23-2014.png

Turkey will be an important nation in this new conflict because obama said that their will be more patrols in the black sea. Also obama is making a coalition to fight isis. Turkey will most likely be involved in both of these plans.


I think the cost of tfx will be between 15- 20 billion for development.
If US wants Turkey on their side in cold war 2.0, they have to give up something to us. Not use us like in the past and not give anything back. This is a business relationship. Americans haven't done anything with something in return. Now Turkey is going after its own interest as independent nation they have been calling us "the difficult ally" or "Turkey is becoming a more difficult ally". They don't want to give us tech transfers for money, they spy on us... they have to change their behavior which I think they will. I heard couple of US advisors on a board saying things.
 
If US wants Turkey on their side in cold war 2.0, they have to give up something to us. Not use us like in the past and not give anything back. This is a business relationship. Americans haven't done anything with something in return. Now Turkey is going after its own interest as independent nation they have been calling us "the difficult ally" or "Turkey is becoming a more difficult ally". They don't want to give us tech transfers for money, they spy on us... they have to change their behavior which I think they will. I heard couple of US advisors on a board saying things.
The bad thing is that Turkey is being put in risky situations. For example with ISIS. If they see that Turkey is cooperating too much with america they may decide to kill half of the 40 hostages. What does Turkey do then? Attack ISIS so that they can kill the remaining 20?
 
The bad thing is that Turkey is being put in risky situations. For example with ISIS. If they see that Turkey is cooperating too much with america they may decide to kill half of the 40 hostages. What does Turkey do then? Attack ISIS so that they can kill the remaining 20?
US policy is never negotiate with terrorists. They learned from their mistakes. During Regan's time they negotiated with terrorist and that lead to more Americans getting kidnapped to get money and other things. Those 60 people are already lossed most probably. If they declare war on Turkey or attack Turkish assets we can't do anything than to act. So the best would be to wait, we have nothing to gain, let our allies supply KRG and Iraq and maybe they will release some. I don't think they will kill our hostages because we are allies with US since that would open new front for them. IS said countless times they should keep Turkey as a friend . All their fighters come true Turkey from Europe and we even treated their soldiers in our hospitals
 
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