Turkey Contained ?

[NeutralCitizen]

I've been thinking about this for a while now but it seems to be turkey has been blocked from Europe, Middle East, and Central Asia.
Turkey won't get into the EU due to the muslim issues going on and well only part of turkey is in Europe, for Turkey to get into the EU it would need to change the name to Byzantine convert to Christianity or become atheists. which seems unlikely.

In the Middle East Turkey has never really been close to it until the AKP came and turks don't want to be apart of a less advanced region now, not to mention Iran ,the Gulf Arabs, France and the UK are fighting for Influence.

In central asia it was always natural for turkey to link up with the other turkic states but due to Russia regaining influence and Kazakhstan joining the Russian Eurasian union and the other central asian states coming back to russia it seems a big no for a turkic union. not to mention Russia, China, and Iran blocking it.

What are your views ?

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

HOW ABOUT WE ARE PART OF ALL OF IT ABIT? UNIQUE ISNT IT

 

[NeutralCitizen]

HOW ABOUT WE ARE PART OF ALL OF IT ABIT? UNIQUE ISNT IT

But basically Turkey has blocked or not allowed in all 3 regions, Pan Turkism for a Turkic Union due to not entering the EU but Russia and China most likely prevented that.

HOW ABOUT WE ARE PART OF ALL OF IT ABIT? UNIQUE ISNT IT

But basically Turkey has blocked or not allowed in all 3 regions, Pan Turkism for a Turkic Union due to not entering the EU but Russia and China most likely prevented that.

 

[Deno]

Turks have no problems with having good relationship with Arab states... It is good for Turks and Arabs... Where did you get the idea of Turks not wanting to be part of ''less advanced religion''?

What religion has to do with when it comes to goverment bussiness... As a secular country, Turkey's popularity in Arab world is high as it can be...

For central Asia, Turkey is not strong enough to influence it... Until Turkey has the economy with 1.5 trillion dollars and military equipment to arm central Asia, Turkey can't influence them...

Edit: Part of the reason Turkey and KSA are speaking this laud against Syria is to have a road with GCC and Turkey...

Edit: Sorry about that I guess it was caused by editing

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Turks have no problems with having good relationship with Arab states... It is good for Turks and Arabs... Where did you get the idea of Turks not wanting to be part of ''less advanced religion''?

What religion has to do with when it comes to goverment bussiness... As a secular country, Turkey's popularity in Arab world is high as it can be...

For central Asia, Turkey is not strong enough to influence it... Until Turkey has the economy with 1.5 trillion dollars and military equipment to arm central Asia, Turkey can't influence them...

Turks have no problems with having good relationship with Arab states... It is good for Turks and Arabs... Where did you get the idea of Turks not wanting to be part of ''less advanced religion''?

What religion has to do with when it comes to goverment bussiness... As a secular country, Turkey's popularity in Arab world is high as it can be...

For central Asia, Turkey is not strong enough to influence it... Until Turkey has the economy with 1.5 trillion dollars and military equipment to arm central Asia, Turkey can't influence them...

My mistake deno my error i meant region not religion .

 

[Pakistanisage]

Turks have no problems with having good relationship with Arab states... It is good for Turks and Arabs... Where did you get the idea of Turks not wanting to be part of ''less advanced religion''?

What religion has to do with when it comes to goverment bussiness... As a secular country, Turkey's popularity in Arab world is high as it can be...

For central Asia, Turkey is not strong enough to influence it... Until Turkey has the economy with 1.5 trillion dollars and military equipment to arm central Asia, Turkey can't influence them...

Turks have no problems with having good relationship with Arab states... It is good for Turks and Arabs... Where did you get the idea of Turks not wanting to be part of ''less advanced religion''?

What religion has to do with when it comes to goverment bussiness... As a secular country, Turkey's popularity in Arab world is high as it can be...

For central Asia, Turkey is not strong enough to influence it... Until Turkey has the economy with 1.5 trillion dollars and military equipment to arm central Asia, Turkey can't influence them...

Edit: Part of the reason Turkey and KSA are speaking this laud against Syria is to have a road with GCC and Turkey...

Deno my friend, stop COPYING and PASTING.

You have duplicated your copy and paste answers ( read your Text above ).

 

[Pakistanisage]

Double Post

 

[ovarel]

At first i thought the title is about Israel improving its relations with Turkey's neighbors.

If it is about belonging to a region,Turkey belongs to more than one region. I dont see that kind of strict blocs in the world. We dont have to form Turkic nations under one flag,we dont have to be a part of the EU,we dont have to be the king of the ME. I mean we hadnt achieved any of them in the past but we survived. All we have to do is trying to have good relations with others as much as possible. Turkey has always been a country of "balance",thats our only choice.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

double post.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Turks have no problems with having good relationship with Arab states... It is good for Turks and Arabs... Where did you get the idea of Turks not wanting to be part of ''less advanced religion''?

What religion has to do with when it comes to goverment bussiness... As a secular country, Turkey's popularity in Arab world is high as it can be...

For central Asia, Turkey is not strong enough to influence it... Until Turkey has the economy with 1.5 trillion dollars and military equipment to arm central Asia, Turkey can't influence them...

Turks have no problems with having good relationship with Arab states... It is good for Turks and Arabs... Where did you get the idea of Turks not wanting to be part of ''less advanced religion''?

What religion has to do with when it comes to goverment bussiness... As a secular country, Turkey's popularity in Arab world is high as it can be...

For central Asia, Turkey is not strong enough to influence it... Until Turkey has the economy with 1.5 trillion dollars and military equipment to arm central Asia, Turkey can't influence them...

Edit: Part of the reason Turkey and KSA are speaking this laud against Syria is to have a road with GCC and Turkey...

First part I have to say yes however there is a religious difference turks tend to be more liberal then arabs even arab liberals are pretty conservative, my error on that I meant region not religion it was less developed then turkey.

Turkey as been seen as another possible model but the arab governments are going for a moderate Islamic countries rather then.
erdogan wanted egypt to be secular but they rejected.

For central asia there has always been a link to the other turkic states basically a turkic union but Russia and China see this as a threat do to turkey trying to get influence in central and Xinjiang. even if Turkey was strong enough to influence them both the Russians and Chinese would do everything to keep it out.

Yes I'm aware on syria however the GCC is going to be set on unifying all the arab countries does turkey want to unite with the arabs again ?

 

[ovarel]

Deno my friend, stop COPYING and PASTING.

You have duplicated your copy and paste answers ( read your Text above ).

And you tripled your post.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

If anything I see Turkey-Azerbaijan-Turkish Cyprus in some kind of Close Union since the ME, Central Asia, & EU isn't going to good.

 

[King Solomon]

I think turkey should get out of NATO and include itself in the Eurasian union (SCO). These are the reasons why:

- In any RussoChinese - NATO conflict, Turkey will be the first country to bear the burnt of a retailiation from Russia. So, its better to ally itself with Russia (a superpower in close proximity) rather than USA. This will also solve the Central Asian issue because a mediation can be reached. Otherwise, Turkey is effectively just a proxy of USA against Russia/China right now and will be the first one to get destroyed and occupied if Russia retaliates to NATO encirclement.

- EU is not ready to accept Turkey yet, simply (according to me) because they are muslim majority.

- Humanitarian issue (NATO killing millions of muslims worldwide), greater support from Muslim world.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

ye but these 3 countries are not strong enough , as these 3 get stronger others will be included in this close union and relationship it will be like a wave of getting closer and stronger

 

[Deno]

First part I have to say yes however there is a religious difference turks tend to be more liberal then arabs even arab liberals are pretty conservative, my error on that I meant region not religion it was less developed then turkey.

Turkey as been seen as another possible model but the arab governments are going for a moderate Islamic countries rather then.
erdogan wanted egypt to be secular but they rejected.

For central asia there has always been a link to the other turkic states basically a turkic union but Russia and China see this as a threat do to turkey trying to get influence in central and Xinjiang. even if Turkey was strong enough to influence them both the Russians and Chinese would do everything to keep it out.

Yes I'm aware on syria however the GCC is going to be set on unifying all the arab countries does turkey want to unite with the arabs again ?

There are differences, and to be honest liberal Turks doesn't have great opinion about Arabs but the policies of goverments decided by money and Turkey has the potential to make tons of money out of Arab market... Turkey already did that with Iraq, %25 of Iraqi imports are from Turkey and Turkey was doing the same thing with Syria until they rejected the offer about pipeline with KSA/Turkey... And things went down the hill...

About Egypt, even though they rejected it Turkey still ecxported good amount of arms to Egypt and propably the imports and investment to Egypt will raise to sustain the good relationship. Egypt has the largest population in Arab world and the market there will be gold mine if Turkey could do some clever politics...

Like you said, Central Asia is a trick place... Russia has to control central Asia because of its need of buffer zone, China has to keep Turkey out because of the fear of ethnic nationalism... Turkey can't do much about that until she can challenge Russia or convice China about its fears of ethnic nationalism.