TTP releases statement positioning itself as an Afghan nationalist organisation aimed at dismantling Pakistan

[kingQamaR]

A tweet which is reporting on what an Afghan is saying.

And yes, many Pakistanis are cucks and mouthpieces for Afghans, makes no difference in their case


That's the one good thing they did, should have went further and nuked it and brought peace to the region for good.

If ISI helped Taliban consolidate power, I think it was a great service to the afghan people and the region. Otherwise it was going to be a civil war after Americans hasty withdrawal and that would have claimed the lives of many. And influx millions of refugees .

 

[mangochutney]

A tweet which is reporting on what an Afghan is saying.

And yes, many Pakistanis are cucks and mouthpieces for Afghans, makes no difference in their case


That's the one good thing they did, should have went further and nuked it and brought peace to the region for good.

Yes . Says Afghan taliban are disinterested

It’s a begging for help tweet like most tweets are by Pakistanis
Lol even Pakistani terrorists are beggars trait of the nation it seems .

 

[TriptiD]

Pakistan is always talking about Kashmiris' right to self-determination. Why doesn't it offer the people of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Baluchistan the same right ?

 

[kingQamaR]

Pakistan is always talking about Kashmiris' right to self-determination. Why doesn't it offer the people of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Baluchistan the same right ?

Pakhtuns are the most patriotic and hospitable people. There are 40-50 million pukhtuns inhabited in Pakistan. Pukhtuns make the second largest community of Pakistan lagging behind punjabis. Ethnically we are different but culturally, religiously and nationally we are Pakistanis. Pakistan Zindabad, another stupid ignorant Indian comment

 

[hussain0216]

Pakistan is always talking about Kashmiris' right to self-determination. Why doesn't it offer the people of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Baluchistan the same right ?

Because Kashmir is contested, the whole point of partition was that we hated Hindus and wanted separation

So forcing a Muslim state into a union full of hindus who they hated was retarded

KP had a referendum at the start and joined Pakistan

 

[TheSolution]

If ISI helped Taliban consolidate power, I think it was a great service to the afghan people and the region. Otherwise it was going to be a civil war after Americans hasty withdrawal and that would have claimed the lives of many. And influx millions of refugees .

I think it's time Pakistan starts planning towards moves that are a great service towards its own citizens and own stability

That would be the smart and self-respecting thing to do

 

[TriptiD]

Pakhtuns are the most patriotic and hospitable people. There are 40-50 million pukhtuns inhabited in Pakistan. Pukhtuns make the second largest community of Pakistan lagging behind punjabis. Ethnically we are different but culturally, religiously and nationally we are Pakistanis. Pakistan Zindabad, another stupid Indian on here

A few Pathans like Ayub Khan, some Niazis, etc have been incorporated into the Pakistani ruling elite, but there is strong support for the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan in many parts of Afghanistan and several young men from organisations like TTP have been martyred for the cause. As for what other Pakistanis think about Pashtuns, the opinions on PDF are quite illuminating.

The referendum in KP was meaningless because there was no option to join Afghanistan. The referendum was widely boycotted. Even the Indian leaders didn't want NWFP because defending it against Pakistan would have been an impossible military liability.

 

[TheSolution]

A few Pathans like Ayub Khan, some Niazis, etc have been incorporated into the Pakistani ruling elite, but there is strong support for the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan in many parts of Afghanistan and several young men from organisations like TTP have been martyred for the cause. As for what other Pakistanis think about Pashtuns, the opinions on PDF are quite illuminating.

The guy you're responding to himself is a Pashtun.

Also the only sentiment where that truly exists is Waziristan, and thats because the region hasn't even caught up with the concept of modern day nation states, it's extremely tribal

Anyway regardless its a pointless discussion, no country is willingly going to surrender its own territory (not one that has an ounce of self-respect that is)

 

[fitpOsitive]

Actually it's positioning of groups. One is pumping TTP others are pumping khalsa.

 

[Danish saleem]

The latest episode of the Pakistani Taliban (TTP) Pasoon podcast is on the recent tensions between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Shaikh Abdul Rahman Hamaad, a member of the TTP leadership council, said that "despite the disinterest of the Afghan Taliban, the war with Pakistan is significant for Afghanistan."

He alleged, "Pakistan has been behind the instability in Afghanistan for decades, and now it is time for Afghanistan to get rid of it."

Explaining the rationale behind (his defined) Pakistan's Afghan policy, he claimed that "Pakistan occupies a large part of Afghanistan, which includes Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the Pashtun belt of Balochistan and parts of Punjab, so it fears a stable Afghanistan."


@FuturePAF @_NOBODY_ @Sayfullah @Falcon34 @hussain0216 @PanzerKiel @Signalian

https://twitter.com/x/status/1699085504967225789

by taking money from International powers and creating chaos in a state, in the name of religion. and so sorry to say they are enjoying political backing as well from within country. these terrorist should be eliminated at all costs.

 

[kingQamaR]

A few Pathans like Ayub Khan, some Niazis, etc have been incorporated into the Pakistani ruling elite, but there is strong support for the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan in many parts of Afghanistan and several young men from organisations like TTP have been martyred for the cause. As for what other Pakistanis think about Pashtuns, the opinions on PDF are quite illuminating.

The referendum in KP was meaningless because there was no option to join Afghanistan. The referendum was widely boycotted. Even the Indian leaders didn't want NWFP because defending it against Pakistan would have been an impossible military liability.

Pakhtuns believe in the federation of Pakistan and would do everything to uphold it. Stop this propaganda. Pakhtuns are important part of Pakistan's government and the military and several rulers were of Pakhtuns decent. Without a united Pakistan, no ethnic group can prosper. You’re very wrong you Indians gets silly stereotypes from your news Tv propaganda.

 

[karmaa]

This is an old alliance , nothing new. The Taliban couldn’t survive without Pakistan. It’s no secret.

Great friends indeed .

 

[_NOBODY_]

US came to dismantle Al-Qaeda Network in the region. Due to this effort, Pakistan has one less terrorist organization to worry about and TTA seems to realize that it cannot support multi-national terrorist organizations.

US also attempted to convince Pakistan to dismantle Taliban groups but Pakistan refused to:

https://www.dawn.com/news/1660188

Pakistan was too focused on Hamid Gul policy to understand that snakes cannot be tamed.

You will find details in following posts:

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American handpicked Afghan leaders were willing to work with Pakistan but Pakistan was supporting Taliban groups and this was the root cause of tensions between Afghanistan and Pakistan throughout. It was easy for India to exploit this situation and launch its projects in Afghanistan.

Pakistan was too confused to make a decision.
Lack of consensus on what to do about Afghanistan.

US managed to convince Taliban to not support multi-national terrorist organizations and call it a day.

Trump administration pitched Intra-Afghan Dialogue to reshape Afghan political landscape but Biden administration scrapped this plan. Joe Biden understands Pakistan well enough.

This is not how it works.

When ISIL emerged in Iraq in 2014, Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has to make a decision. He chose to not negotiate with terrorists and wipe them out. He convinced US to support Iraq in this matter. Operation Inherent Resolve is a COIN masterstroke. Iraq has rid itself from the menace of terrorism to large extent.

Wonderfully explained, this posts deserves a positive rating.

 

[hussain0216]

Wonderfully explained, this posts deserves a positive rating.

It doesn't take into consideration multiple factors

The U.S and it's intentions in the region, especially against China, Iran, Pakistan and Russia to the north

Also U.S intentions to keep China out and to facilitate India our main enemy as a counter to China regardless of Pakistani protests

Indian plotting and planning and investments to target Pakistan that the U.S either was facilitating or at least turning a blind eye to

A afghan Republic, with I'll intentions towards Pakistan openly increasing its cooperation with India and reaching out to pashtun nationalists

And we can keep going

We could have played ball and helped got rid of Taliban but for purpose?

To have a permanent U.S presence and intelligence infrastructure next door, threatening Pakistani strategic interests and planning with India to counter China?

A gradual increase in Indian planning and sites to counter Pakistan

A hostile Afghan Republic, with no concerns for Pakistani strategic interests?



Atleast this way , all those problems go and we are left with the Taliban who we can arm twist to some extent, who are reliant on Pakistan to some extent and we have Afghan Yahoo's who we can target

 

[maithil]

So far Pakistan has been very successful in eliminating TTP leaders inside Afghanistan. TTP has been issuing statements and doing small scale attacks only. However, with Pakistan economy going to the dogs, it will result in bold steps by TTP. Hafiz Asim Munir cannot handle war on these two fronts. The only solution is to implement Islamic economic and political system which will solve the problems of poverty and bring in the TTP as an extra unconventional force in service of the country. After that leave the American system and stop making interest payments to IMF as it is against Islam. Then make a European Union like arrangement with Iran and Afghanistan with no customs duties and visa free travel. Then join the Chinese and Russian camp. General Hameed Gul (late) said to tell them that these loans neither taken with our consent and nor spent on us. Additionally, I add that most of the loans are utilized in unneeded civil and military projects and is siphoned back to the West as payment to Western contractors or corruption money and is lying in Western banks in the accounts of politicians and civil and military officers.

Most sensible post .