Trump pans immigration proposal as bringing people from 'shithole countries'

[Yingluck]

Below is homicide rate.

Some blacks for example those from Ethiopia has far lesser homicide rate than other blacks -- even for those who emigrated to USA.

Their people work hard and have good moral values, and there are relatively sound financially.

Are people really discriminating black making them poor, or are they having lousy culture while shouting discrimination?

Why Ethiopian is able to fare much better?

Similarly we may ponder is Sunni really being discriminated?

 

[Flash_Ninja]

The East Asians came dirt poor and they are able to ace in exams everywhere.

Everywhere no exceptions.

Below Chinese workers in the snow constructing the first transcontinental railroad.

Some race will shout Jihad and others will shout discrimination everywhere.

You are looking at progression over a 100+ year period of time, dont be so ridiculous.

Again, if you take away your racist lens and compare different races from the same background and areas, you will see they are virtually identical.

 

[Yingluck]

You are looking at progression over a 100+ year period of time, dont be so ridiculous.

Again, if you take away your racist lens and compare different races from the same background and areas, you will see they are virtually identical.

Qatar being richer than Ethiopia has a higher homicide rate. And all East Asian countries have very low homicide rate.

Oops I am really racist

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Qatar being richer than Ethiopia has a higher homicide rate. And all East Asian countries have very low homicide rate.

Oops I am really racist

When you cherry pick data to try and show a specific viewpoint then yes you are.

Why dont you look at all the countries and compare equally, for instance Russia, Philippines, Uruguay, Mexico, Greenland have little to no black population, and yet rank worse than Ethiopia in homicides.

Its almost as if crime is based on more factors than race, such as justice system, police force, and yes socio-economic factors. Qatar might be rich and have a strange number of homicides, but 88% of their population consists of immigrants, your pointless post proves nothing.

 

[Bilal9]

Let me answer your post

Bilal bhai, He is the elected president of a country which claims to be the champion of democracy. If he doesn't represent his nation then who does?

'Champion of democracy' is a debated term. 'Champion of capitalism' is more accurate. But the zinger in American life is 'shared democratic values' among the people like 'opportunity', 'social mobility' etc. In Pakistan or Bangladesh, no lower class person arriving there with ten dollars in their pocket can become a millionaire. In the US it can happen (and did - I know a dozen or so examples personally). Yes even if you are black, yellow or purple. Equal opportunity for Sanghis, Jamatis, Musallis and Murtads. You learn to tolerate and respect each other because that is the way to move forward instead of killing each other and be unproductive. No one is better than anyone else. Except money of course. We in the subcontinent have a long way to go to reach that level.

But yea, a successful businessman like him should know a bit of euphemism and political correctness. As for American values, I don't know what those are and neither do I care. Like I said, their country, their rules. We all have our preferences.

Trump? Politically correct? I don't think so.

But to use your words, if we all have 'our preferences', then we don't have to have a universal rule of civility (non-discrimination) we have adopted under the United League of Nations. It's not 'do whatever we want because we want it'.

There is a UN declaration (charter) of human rights. Pays to read it sometimes.

http://wwda.org.au/issues/unhrt/hrchart1/

Discrimination is banned under this declaration (charter). And those countries that don't abide by it (like South Africa which had institutionalized discrimination) is going to be sanctioned until they straighten up. I don't think Pakistan will survive if that type of sanction as a punishment for discriminatory behavior is imposed on the Pakistani Govt. I certainly hope not.

But who am I to say this? Look at what Chaiwala is getting away with (the US hardly raises a peep).

I'd rather want Chinese in Pakistan than Nigerians, not because they are black but because Chinese are allied to us and have money. You'd rather want Japanese in Bangladesh than say Cambodians.

Wanting investors in a certain country has little to do with their ethnic mix or their racial background. I don't know about Pakistan - but I don't think Bangladeshis prefer only a certain nationality to come invest in that country. Rather it is investment proposals, which are evaluated on merits to the target country (Bangladesh), not which country they come from (Japan). The amount of investments in Bangladesh from China also amount in the hundreds of Billions of dollars as signed in the last two years. Most of the investments from these two countries have been in infrastructure.

But there have been investment from Norway as well, in both Pakistan and Bangladesh (TeleNor). There are Malaysian and Indian investments in all sorts of manufacturing in Bangladesh too.

When you talk about Nigeria (and I had no other way to compare), take a look at where Nigeria is compared to Pakistan. I would not look down on them. If one day they get to Europe's level, and they want to invest in Pakistan, you're saying you'll turn them down?

https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/nigeria/pakistan

The Amish live in a completely different environment though. They didn't have to deal with the institutionalized racism African-Americans had to face before the Civil Rights movements and nor do they face the same discrimination African-Americans do in courts, or when looking for jobs.

If you're going to imply blacks in general are inherently inferior, that's not true because African immigrants have been found to be more successful than their American counterparts.

Bhai it all depends on class, talent and upbringing, there is so much talent in the African American community and it has persisted even with all the rampant racism we have in the US. This schmuck here (living in S'pore no less) wants to prove Africans or Black folks in the US are inherently inferior because of their racial disposition or they are pre-disposed to crime! I am amazed. Where do these ignorant people crawl out of?? And why are these racist troll posts still floating around?

This guy is absolutely clueless and has never studied American history or seen slavery movies (Roots).

These people are the same who burnt when Obama became president .

Thaliand no surprise there then they sell there sisters to white people for $2.00 and there bum holes for $1.50 lol a price of Pepsi .

See we can all generalise .

Some people are hopelessly ignorant - what is there to say??

I guess he will open the first Bangkok branch of the Ku Klux Klan. Instead of white sheets and caps, they will wear Purple Thai Silk Sheets.

Some races are prone to crime. Blacks are 20x or more more likely to be lock up than whites.

Meanwhile Sunni are prone to commit terror or things like FGM.

East Asians have even lower crime rate than white.

Yeah East Asians naturally prone to committing less crime....

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/ille...r-killing-her-5-year-old-daughter-and.537739/

And they are a paragon of civility too (admittedly only certain class of people)....

https://www.whatsonweibo.com/too-lo...roduces-separate-trains-for-chinese-tourists/

 

[Valar.]

'Champion of democracy' is a debated term. 'Champion of capitalism' is more accurate. But the zinger in American life is 'shared democratic values' among the people like 'opportunity', 'social mobility' etc. In Pakistan or Bangladesh, no lower class person arriving there with ten dollars in their pocket can become a millionaire. In the US it can happen (and did - I know a dozen or so examples personally). Yes even if you are black, yellow or purple. Equal opportunity for Sanghis, Jamatis, Musallis and Murtads. You learn to tolerate and respect each other because that is the way to move forward instead of killing each other and be unproductive. No one is better than anyone else. Except money of course. We in the subcontinent have a long way to go to reach that level.

Trump? Politically correct? I don't think so.

But to use your words, if we all have 'our preferences', then we don't have to have a universal rule of civility (non-discrimination) we have adopted under the United League of Nations. It's not 'do whatever we want because we want it'.

There is a UN declaration (charter) of human rights. Pays to read it sometimes.

http://wwda.org.au/issues/unhrt/hrchart1/

Discrimination is banned under this declaration (charter). And those countries that don't abide by it (like South Africa which had institutionalized discrimination) is going to be sanctioned until they straighten up. I don't think Pakistan will survive if that type of sanction as a punishment for discriminatory behavior is imposed on the Pakistani Govt. I certainly hope not.

But who am I to say this? Look at what Chaiwala is getting away with (the US hardly raises a peep).

Wanting investors in a certain country has little to do with their ethnic mix or their racial background. I don't know about Pakistan - but I don't think Bangladeshis prefer only a certain nationality to come invest in that country. Rather it is investment proposals, which are evaluated on merits to the target country (Bangladesh), not which country they come from (Japan). The amount of investments in Bangladesh from China also amount in the hundreds of Billions of dollars as signed in the last two years. Most of the investments from these two countries have been in infrastructure.

But there have been investment from Norway as well, in both Pakistan and Bangladesh (TeleNor). There are Malaysian and Indian investments in all sorts of manufacturing in Bangladesh too.

When you talk about Nigeria (and I had no other way to compare), take a look at where Nigeria is compared to Pakistan. I would not look down on them. If one day they get to Europe's level, and they want to invest in Pakistan, you're saying you'll turn them down?

https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/nigeria/pakistan

Bilal bhai, you missunderstood my points again and again. You need coffee

1. If your president Trump democratically elected by majority of Americans doesn't represent America then who does? (please no more American dream stories)

2. Reread my comment about Nigeria. I never considered them as racially or ethnically inferior. And the reason I compared them is due to similar size and population with Pak with similar problems. How many of Nigerians investors are willing to come to Pak or vice versa? But if they ever reach to Europe's level then sure I'd want them, why? Money. That's what I said it previously.

3. If discrimination is banned then how come your president is doing it? Instead of taking out on me and giving me lectures about american dreams, why don't you ask him or your govt? After all its the govt of the people, by the people and for the people.

Lastly, did you all of a sudden landed in USA with 10 dollars and get to become what you are today? Or did you pay grands of dollar to study and settle there?

 

[Bilal9]

Bilal bhai, you missunderstood my points again and again. You need coffee

1. If your president Trump democratically elected by majority of Americans doesn't represent America then who does? (please no more American dream stories)

2. Reread my comment about Nigeria. I never considered them as racially or ethnically inferior. And the reason I compared them is due to similar size and population with Pak with similar problems. How many of Nigerians investors are willing to come to Pak or vice versa? But if they ever reach to Europe's level then sure I'd want them, why? Money. That's what I said it previously.

3. If discrimination is banned then how come your president is doing it? Instead of taking out on me and giving me lectures about american dreams, why don't you ask him or your govt? After all its the govt of the people, by the people and for the people.

Lastly, did you all of a sudden landed in USA with 10 dollars and get to become what you are today? Or did you pay grands of dollar to study and settle there?

I always appreciate coffee.

But to be on the same page like me (understand what I am trying to explain) you also need to visit here and appreciate this country firsthand. Even more important - you need to to understand why a US President can get to office without being represented in principle by a majority of Americans. The answer is simple - apathy. A huge number of Democrats never voted, out of disgust with Hillary because Barney wasn't nominated. Also - the RNC and the Russians did a great job feeding false stories in social media to convince gullible rural American voters to vote for Trump.

1. To answer your question - Trump doesn't actually represent someone like me who is educated, cosmopolitan and liberal on principle. He represents (by tweet) a lot of bigoted, disaffected Americans who I say blame everything on either foreigners or foreign countries rather than themselves - because its easy to point fingers. These tea partiers are small in number but quite vocal.

2. Good.

3. Trump at this time is a global embarrassment, even to Republicans. He does what he does, and ask no one before he tweets. That's it. We have to endure another few years.

4. I did not bring 'grands of dollars' with me. A lot of long hours, risky hard work over many years, a long stint on educating myself and a dose of good luck too.

 

[Yingluck]

No one is more embarrass than the entire nation who vandalizes this guy.

These people have no moral basis to talk about discrimination, but rather, they are always doing.

 

[Mugwop]

Their country, their rules.
Our country, our rules.

It's not their country, Kabzah kia wa hai.

haiti has been free for close to 200 years. I don't understand why it's still so damn poor.

Economic sanctions,Corruption and of course natural disasters.

 

[Śakra]

Yeah East Asians naturally prone to committing less crime....

In their country murder is reported as suicide unless they have a person in custody and evidence to prove he's guilty. That's why their conviction rate is almost 100% and their suicide rate is 10x higher than normal.

Economic sanctions,Corruption and of course natural disasters.

I just learned from @terry5 they're still paying loans from France incured during independence.

 

[Dalit]

haiti has been free for close to 200 years. I don't understand why it's still so damn poor.

Brilliant idea! Let us ask Africa why Donald Trump thinks they are a shithole... The Africans will appreciate how they got robbed throughout the colonization era.

As for mass poverty, before worrying about Haiti, how about having a good look at yourself? Those who live in glass houses...

Their country, their rules.
Our country, our rules.

If only things worked that way.

The first part is true for proud and patriotic Americans. The second part unfortunately isn't. Ask Iraq, Syria and others.

When you cherry pick data to try and show a specific viewpoint then yes you are.

Why dont you look at all the countries and compare equally, for instance Russia, Philippines, Uruguay, Mexico, Greenland have little to no black population, and yet rank worse than Ethiopia in homicides.

Its almost as if crime is based on more factors than race, such as justice system, police force, and yes socio-economic factors. Qatar might be rich and have a strange number of homicides, but 88% of their population consists of immigrants, your pointless post proves nothing.

He is cherry picking and generalizing. Being more loyal than the king himself.

Every country has racism, discrimination etc. Not every country has a president who calls other nations a shithole.

No one is more embarrass than the entire nation who vandalizes this guy.

These people have no moral basis to talk about discrimination, but rather, they are always doing.

Let's not get into the business of posting pictures.

I can post millions of pictures.

Some races are prone to crime. Blacks are 20x or more more likely to be lock up than whites.

Meanwhile Sunni are prone to commit terror or things like FGM.

East Asians have even lower crime rate than white.

We get your point. You don't want the developed nations to take in immigrants from vast portions of the planet such as Sunni, African, Hispanic or other nations that you accuse of being lazy, criminal and terror prone.

Will you also stop conducting trade and business with lazy, criminal and terror prone nations? Will you also stop all other kinds of interaction with lazy, criminal and terror prone nations? You do know that you can't have it both ways, right?

 

[American Pakistani]

No one is more embarrass than the entire nation who vandalizes this guy.

These people have no moral basis to talk about discrimination, but rather, they are always doing.

No one is like tum bhartis, who love to take cover Thai flag kay peechay.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Many races screw too much then run away. It is ok so long they can blame white man for discrimination (for all their failures), and to get white man taxpayer pay for their bastard son.

Who cares if they blame white men?

Are you a white man?

 

[MultaniGuy]

It never existed... It's time to put Pakistan first and forget the rest.

True all tolerance promoted by the west is all a sham.

 

[NoOne'sBoy]

Many races screw too much then run away. It is ok so long they can blame white man for discrimination (for all their failures), and to get white man taxpayer pay for their bastard son.

Their women are sluts.

The world will be better place if we can make people masturbate more. I guess due to white man discrimination, no one is masturbating. So mea culpa white man.

hold on homeboy lemme stop you right there. let's not talk about asian women who would drag themselves through 10000km of mud just to smell a white dude's asshole. germany men go to thailand to get wives like they go shopping. so fucked up and these women obey the white man 100% with no questions

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jesus... crackers today are acting like victims of a grand conspiracy because they cant do this shit anymore