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Love it or hate it.. We Pakistanis love Turks out of Pan Islamic ideology and Erdugan is the harbinger of that.... not Kamalists.
I do not hate nor I'm in love. I support all cases which are trying to revive our common cultural roots and trying to revive Turkey Pakistan brotherhood , without any hesitation. For me, names and ideologies are temporary, the real thing is our common future.

The source of my sadness, love of Pakistan and awareness of Pakistan in Turkey is getting stuck in a narrower environment, everyday... My desire is that it should more common.
 
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Kemalists Turks are anyways better than Erdogan supporters who are mostly just online trolls
It will change soon when Erdugan Islamists matured and old lot of Kamalists died out forever... Inshallah.
 
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My friend, you probably know very little about the history of Anatolian-Balkan Turks. Kemalism is a synthesis. If we consider it academically, it probably has a couple centuries-old formation. It is not something that suddenly arises with Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, his roots are in the ottoman state and his future will be in the branches of the republic. However, even the majority of the Kemalists in the country do not have this intellectual knowings, so everybody who looks from the outside evaluates the situation incorrectly.
 
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Idealogically Erdugan's'Islamist Party is more loved by Pakistanis then Kamal Seculrists. However on PDF there are more Kamalists....who always try to dissuade Pakistanis from Erdugan[emoji23]
Rubbish,... Pakistanis love Turkeye regardless of their or our politicians. Don't post your own mental thoughts.

@dBSPL @xenon54

Ignore the trolls.
 
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I do not hate nor I'm in love. I support all cases which are trying to revive our common cultural roots and trying to revive Turkey Pakistan brotherhood , without any hesitation. For me, names and ideologies are temporary, the real thing is our common future.

The source of my sadness, love of Pakistan and awareness of Pakistan in Turkey is getting stuck in a narrower environment, everyday... My desire is that it should more common.
Look dude.. I like your writings on PDF by the way.

We Pakistanis created a country on an Idealogy otherwise there is no need of it. I laugh on PDF Turks when they try to lecture us on secularism and try to dissuade us from our way. oh com'on...just try to visit YouTube PTV Urdu Ertugral page where there are more then 50,000 comments just read carefully most of the comments are not from Pakistan but from Indian, Bangladeshis and sub continental Muslims who see a way to differentiate themselves from the largest populas in our region and the collective thought process of such kind is over 600 Million. So Pakistanis in particular will remain Islamists as long as we were alive. So I advice secular Kamalists Turks to respect their hosts here and the region at large instead of humiliating yourselves indefinately.
 
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It will change soon when Erdugan Islamists matured and old lot of Kamalists died out forever... Inshallah.
Dream on.

Look dude.. I like your writings on PDF by the way.

We Pakistanis created a country on an Idealogy otherwise there is no need of it. I laugh on PDF Turks when they try to lecture us on secularism and try to dissuade us from our way. oh com'on...just try to visit YouTube PTV Urdu Ertugral page where there are more then 50,000 comments just read carefully most of the comments are not from Pakistan but from Indian, Bangladeshis and sub continental Muslims who see a way to differentiate themselves from the largest populas in our region and the collective thought process of such kind is over 600 Million. So Pakistanis in particular will remain Islamists as long as we were alive. So I advice secular Kamalists Turks to respect their hosts here and the region at large instead of humiliating yourselves indefinately.
You are the future of Pakistan.:tup::tup::tup:
 
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Idealogically Erdugan's'Islamist Party is more loved by Pakistanis then Kamal Seculrists. However on PDF there are more Kamalists....who always try to dissuade Pakistanis from Erdugan[emoji23]
You want to love a corrupted thief just because of his religious rethoric then go ahead, i dont give two cents about who you like and who not.
In fact take erdogan and set him on a golden throne in Pakistan, you would do booth of us a favor.
You are the future of Pakistan.:tup::tup::tup:
My condolences to Pakistan then...

so everybody who looks from the outside evaluates the situation incorrectly.
Espacially the islamists like him who dont know jack shit about history of Turks.
 
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Dream on.


You are the future of Pakistan.:tup::tup::tup:


Nah The Younger folks in Turkey are more nationalistic and pro Kemalist than the older I think Kemalism 2.0 will happen once Erdogan and the AKP say bye bye besides the AKP is under increase infighting these days
You want to love a corrupted thief just because of his religious rethoric then go ahead, i dont give two cents about who you like and who not.
In fact take erdogan and set him on a golden throne in Pakistan, you would do booth of us a favor.

My condolences to Pakistan then...


Espacially the islamists like him who dont know jack shit about history of Turks.

Erdogan will not stand a chance in Pakistan he is more of "liberal" in a Pakistani sense

It will change soon when Erdugan Islamists matured and old lot of Kamalists died out forever... Inshallah.

After the 2016 coup the same Kemalists purged in the army during the 2000s were bought in the hope for turning Turkey into a "Islamists" s..thole was under Gulen :partay:
 
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Erdogan will not stand a chance in Pakistan he is more of "liberal" in a Pakistani sense
Turks in general are conservative compared to world so if Turkeys most conservative leader in history is too liberal for you then you gotta do something about it.
 
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Turks in general are conservative compared to world so if Turkeys most conservative leader in history is too liberal for you then you gotta do something about it.

Yes we have to do a lot of things to improve but like I said most Pakistanis are just a naive bunch tell them nice things they will love you death many dont like harsh truths

Speak for yourself please.

We love Turkey because they are Turkey, not because of who happens to be their leader at a point in time.

I hope so lets wait and see Pakistanis are a naive bunch lets be honest

Look dude.. I like your writings on PDF by the way.

We Pakistanis created a country on an Idealogy otherwise there is no need of it. I laugh on PDF Turks when they try to lecture us on secularism and try to dissuade us from our way. oh com'on...just try to visit YouTube PTV Urdu Ertugral page where there are more then 50,000 comments just read carefully most of the comments are not from Pakistan but from Indian, Bangladeshis and sub continental Muslims who see a way to differentiate themselves from the largest populas in our region and the collective thought process of such kind is over 600 Million. So Pakistanis in particular will remain Islamists as long as we were alive. So I advice secular Kamalists Turks to respect their hosts here and the region at large instead of humiliating yourselves indefinately.

So one TV show that was not so popular in Turkey is your window to perspective on Turkey yeah naive bunch of people we got in Pakistan
 
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Cringe as a word cringe can be cringe. No one paid my bill. Propaganda machines every where churning out more propaganda then person can handle
 
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Cringe as a word cringe can be cringe. No one paid my bill. Propaganda machines every where churning out more propaganda then person can handle

And I thought the Chinese were pure cringe with their propaganda bots and posts
 
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