Top 2 fighter bombers in the world. UAC Su-34 and LM F-35. Rate in poll.

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Su-34 developed from Su-27. Before it was called Su-27 IB (IB means fighter bomber). Replaces Su-24 and Tu-22 and Su-25. Armored cockpit. First flight 1990. Then Russia dirt poor until Putin revived Russia. Entered service 2014. Has PESA, Platan EOTS, digital FBW, RAM, rear warning radar. Top speed Mach 1.8. 2 seats 2 engines. Can carry R-77 and R-73 for self defense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-34

F-35. Joint Strike Fighter program jointly developed by a dozen or so countries. First flight 2006. Entered service 2015. Replaces AV-8 B and F-18 A / B / C / D and F-16 C and A-10. Top speed Mach 1.6 to 1.8. Has AESA, DSI, EOTS, DAS, RAM, digital FBW. 1 seat 1 engine. Can carry AIM-120 and AIM-9 for self protection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

@500 @vostok @pakistanipower @GIANTsasquatch

 

[war&peace]

I think F-35 is more advanced but it comes with strings attached and has builtin kill switches. In addition. it is too expensive and its main camouflage (stealth) is not going to last long since already there are technologies that can detect it and those will get better and better in future and since it is relatively slow compared to its competition so without stealth is is not a worthy platform. For these reasons.. I rate Su-34 higher than F-35.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I think F-35 is more advanced but it comes with strings attached and has builtin kill switches. In addition. it is too expensive and its main camouflage (stealth) is not going to last long since already there are technologies that can detect it and those will get better and better in future and since it is relatively slow compared to its competition so without stealth is is not a worthy platform. For these reasons.. I rate Su-34 higher than F-35.

Su-34 has RAM also. However it is bigger so has larger RCS.

 

[My-Analogous]

Su-34 developed from Su-27. Before it was called Su-27 IB (IB means fighter bomber). Replaces Su-24 and Tu-22 and Su-25. Armored cockpit. First flight 1990. Then Russia dirt poor until Putin revived Russia. Entered service 2014. Has PESA, Platan EOTS, digital FBW, RAM, rear warning radar. Top speed Mach 1.8. 2 seats 2 engines. Can carry R-77 and R-73 for self defense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-34

F-35. Joint Strike Fighter program jointly developed by a dozen or so countries. First flight 2006. Entered service 2015. Replaces AV-8 B and F-18 A / B / C / D and F-16 C and A-10. Top speed Mach 1.6 to 1.8. Has AESA, DSI, EOTS, DAS, RAM, digital FBW. 1 seat 1 engine. Can carry AIM-120 and AIM-9 for self protection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II

F35 is multirole not a bomber. When we say that then it may have some plus or minus because of role. SU34 is design for bomber and its role is define for that only, To me SU34

 

[My-Analogous]

Su-34 has RAM also. However it is bigger so has larger RCS.

Bomber don't need Stealth because it come after all aerial war is over and enemy don't have any major threat in the air. It is already is in comfort zone so that they can destroy land target and clear the ground for army (which is layer 3 of attacking format)

 

[500]

1) F-35
2) F-15SA
3) F-18E
4) Rafale
5) Eurofighter
6) F-16E
7) Su-34

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

F35 is multirole not a bomber. When we say that then it may have some plus or minus because of role. SU34 is design for bomber and its role is define for that only, To me SU34

F-35 is Joint Strike Fighter. It is primary role bomber, secondary role fighter, same as Su-34. It had F-22's TVC and super cruise deleted and added internal EOTS which adds weight which multi role jets don't have.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Su-34 air show

F-35 air show

 

[Ultima Thule]

F-35 is Joint Strike Fighter. It is primary role bomber, secondary role fighter, same as Su-34. It had F-22's TVC and super cruise deleted and added internal EOTS which adds weight which multi role jets don't have.

F-35 is not bomber you fool its a multi role Jet, its basically SEAD DEAD jets clearing SAMs threats for strategic bombers, but it can fight air combat with long range BVR, and short range air to air missiles, let me ask one question to you, world most potent, best and respectable multi role jet F-16 have TVC @undertakerwwefan does F-16 have a super cruise capability @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

F-35 is not bomber you fool its a multi role Jet, its basically SEAD DEAD jets clearing SAMs threats for strategic bombers, but it can fight air combat with long range BVR, and short range air to air missiles, let me ask one question to you, world most potent, best and respectable multi role jet F-16 have TVC @undertakerwwefan does F-16 have a super cruise capability @undertakerwwefan

F-35 is attack plane, not optimized for air to air. Multi role jets don't have internal EOTS. Adds weight.

 

[Ultima Thule]

F-35 is attack plane, not optimized for air to air. Multi role jets don't have internal EOTS. Adds weight.

It can fight air combat both in BVR arena and SRAAM arena @undertakerwwefan previous multi role jet carrying elctro optics pods so @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

It can fight air combat both in BVR arena and SRAAM arena @undertakerwwefan previous multi role jet carrying elctro optics pods so @undertakerwwefan

It can, as a secondary role. It's more like F-105 and F-111 and F-117 than F-16 and F-15.

 

[Ultima Thule]

It can, as a secondary role. It's more like F-105 and F-111 and F-117 than F-16 and F-15.

Whatever you think but its like F-16/F-15 which it will replacing, those attack jets you refer were only single mission jets and need a escorts from air superiority jets, so keep blabbering without a base @undertakerwwefan

 

[rcrmj]

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