What's new

Today's India-Pakistan Armed Tensions - Will New U.S. Military and Nuclear Aid to Modi Inflame Them?

Saifullah Sani

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
Apr 15, 2011
Messages
3,339
Reaction score
2
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
The potentially scariest confrontation in the world may lie between India and Pakistan two hostile, trigger-happy, and heavily-nuclear-armed nations. Recently, the White House and the Defense Department, hoping for a counterweight against China, hit the accelerator pedal on military and nuclear cooperation with India. This embrace of Modi may inflame India-Pakistan armed tensions.

Just for context about tension, India and Pakistan have fought four major wars since independence. They have a tense armed confrontation over Kashmir. In 2008, a Pakistani-based terrorist group unleashed a murderous assault on Mumbai seen as “India’s 9/11.” Narendra Modi, the strong Indian Prime Minister elected a year ago, leads the BJP party of Hindu nationalists, antagonistic on many grounds towards its Islamic neighbor. Modi and the BJP have said numerous things suggesting combative attitudes toward Pakistan, although as Prime Minister, Modi has kept commendably calm.

Nuclear confrontation? Oh, yes. A report this week by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute said “India and Pakistan are both expanding their nuclear weapon production capabilities as well as their missile delivery capabilities.” The institute estimates that India has between 90 and 110 nuclear warheads, and Pakistan has between 100 and 120 — levels on the order of the United Kingdom.

The Obama Administration cooperates with India in large measure from hope for collaboration with India to contain China’s military buildup and aggressive moves. Punit Saurabh just published a persuasive report, India and U.S. Grow Closer Against a Backdrop of An Expansionist China. President Obama has gone twice to India, and forged a strong tie with Modi. Those ties expand at the level of the Secretary of Defense, Ashton Carter, and further down at the level of the procurement undersecretary, Frank Kendall.

But that does not mean Pakistan will look on the India-U.S. cooperation as benign. On the contrary, something of an opposing set of alliances is shaping up. A little-mentioned aspect of this has been what Saurabh calls “China’s overt and covert support to the Pakistani defense buildup, aimed at India through supply of submarines, JF-17 fighters, and strategic inroads in sensitive parts of Kashmir. In other words, China is helping Pakistani on sea, air, and land, just as the U.S. helps India.

So, what is the U.S. providing for the Indian military that may add to these tensions? The single most interesting item: the Pentagon has publicly set up a collaboration group to help India build its next aircraft carrier, implementing it this month. India has kept open the option that this could be a nuclear-propelled aircraft carrier.

India is said to be particularly interested in the Pentagon’s method of launching planes, from these carriers Specifically, the next generation “Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System” (EMALS) will be used on the new Ford-class U.S. carriers. India wants that and may get it. And, it wants to build the aircraft carrier itself, at least in part. In light of the U.S. sharing advanced technology, the other part might get built in the Newport News Shipbuilding yard. That would mean a lot of lucrative business for Huntington Ingalls, already a major beneficiary of defense appropriations, and very well connected — the kind of step that tilts advanced U.S. arms making and selling toward India.

As for nuclear, India seeks, and is getting, cooperation on building nuclear reactors for civilian energy generation. That would mean a lot of lucrative business for Westinghouse and General Electric.
Of course, the United States has strong ties with Pakistan, too. In fact, today there is some extra good will, as the United States fights the Afghan Taliban and Pakistan has taken up arms vigorously against the Pakistani Taliban. The U.S. tries its best not to seem to be tilting toward India in the subcontinent powers’ tense rivalry.

Still, the cooperation agreements between Obama and Modi pledged to come together “to disrupt entities such as Lashkar-e-Tayyiba, Jaish-e-Mohammed . . .and the Haqqani Network.” Of course, those entities work with Pakistan’s powerful intelligence service, ISI. Lashkar-e-Tayyiba was behind the Mumbai terror attack. The Haqqani Network is one of our major enemies in Afghanistan. A joint list like that by Obama and Modi aligns them against Pakistani support for violent Islamic terror groups.

None of this is to say that the United States can stop working with India against China. That must go ahead. But it has the potential to antagonize Pakistan. And that agitates the potentially scariest confrontation in the world.

Today's India-Pakistan Armed Tensions - Will New U.S. Military and Nuclear Aid to Modi Inflame Them?
 
Last edited:
.
aid ... really ? Unlike pakistan india stands on its own two feet ... Its indian policies that are implemented by indian money unlike foreign money to which pakistani foriegn policies are slave to .
 
.
aid ... really ? Unlike pakistan india stands on its own two feet ... Its indian policies that are implemented by indian money unlike foreign money to which pakistani foriegn policies are slave to .

Sadly I would have to agree with you there, we can't chose our foreign policy, its either the Americans or camel riding Habibis.
 
.
Sadly I would have to agree with you there, we can't chose our foreign policy, its either the Americans or camel riding Habibis.

May i know your views about the recent chinese money flowing into pakistan too ?
 
.
aid ... really ? Unlike pakistan india stands on its own two feet ... Its indian policies that are implemented by indian money unlike foreign money to which pakistani foriegn policies are slave to .

Have a great day.

aid to India 2008-2012.JPG
Donation to India(1).JPG
aid to India 2013-14.JPG
 
.
for a moment lets assume that there was no kashmir ever, would that have resulted in friendly relations between India and Pakistan? the answer is obviously no, pakistanis would still have found any other excuse to fight India, its their two nations theory thats the root cause of their hostile attitude towards us.


mr. administrator unlike your country's govt, our country's govt does not receive this aid, it goes to thousands of NGOs instead involved in anti-India activity. google ford foundation and you will know.
 
.
Thank you .
I would like to address some points -
1. Differentiate between loans and grants . ( World bank like orgs aint in philantrophy buisness). Refering to direct cash or kind grants ( US pakistan relation).
2. Net aid ( aid inflow - aid outflow ) is much more of a better indicator of dependence of a country on aid
3. Simlarly aid per unit GDP is much better indicator of dependence of a country on aid . 10 Biillion dollar can literally buy entire Tanzanian leadership not so much in China.


Looking forward to your views . :) ( Edit - this was just a normal smiley . Defence.pk rendered it into a creepy one :P).
 
.
"So, what is the U.S. providing for the Indian military that may add to these tensions? The single most interesting item: the Pentagon has publicly set up a collaboration group to help India build its next aircraft carrier, implementing it this month. India has kept open the option that this could be a nuclear-propelled aircraft carrier.

India is said to be particularly interested in the Pentagon’s method of launching planes, from these carriers Specifically, the next generation “Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System” (EMALS) will be used on the new Ford-class U.S. carriers. India wants that and may get it. And, it wants to build the aircraft carrier itself, at least in part. In light of the U.S. sharing advanced technology, the other part might get built in the Newport News Shipbuilding yard. That would mean a lot of lucrative business for Huntington Ingalls, already a major beneficiary of defense appropriations, and very well connected — the kind of step that tilts advanced U.S. arms making and selling toward India."

Aircraft carrier you will likely to sit in the corner, LOL. :rofl:

Arjun tanks and Tejas jets are already doomed so India want to build on carriers, what a poor plan.
 
.
"So, what is the U.S. providing for the Indian military that may add to these tensions? The single most interesting item: the Pentagon has publicly set up a collaboration group to help India build its next aircraft carrier, implementing it this month. India has kept open the option that this could be a nuclear-propelled aircraft carrier.

India is said to be particularly interested in the Pentagon’s method of launching planes, from these carriers Specifically, the next generation “Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System” (EMALS) will be used on the new Ford-class U.S. carriers. India wants that and may get it. And, it wants to build the aircraft carrier itself, at least in part. In light of the U.S. sharing advanced technology, the other part might get built in the Newport News Shipbuilding yard. That would mean a lot of lucrative business for Huntington Ingalls, already a major beneficiary of defense appropriations, and very well connected — the kind of step that tilts advanced U.S. arms making and selling toward India."

Aircraft carrier you will likely to sit in the corner, LOL. :rofl:

Arjun tanks and Tejas jets are already doomed so India want to build on carriers, what a poor plan.


Hi
Navy is the last thing a Pakistani should try to Troll Indians on. The coast guard of India is at least 3 times your navy in numbers of course. And yes none of our coast guard ships are British or Chinese.
Cheers
Happy Ramzan.
 
.
mr. administrator unlike your country's govt, our country's govt does not receive this aid, it goes to thousands of NGOs instead involved in anti-India activity. google ford foundation and you will know.

Its called Cherry picking, old habit here ;)

Note, the statistics are provided are for 2013 or prior.

From the same link posted by Horus, check the aid received by India for 2014-15

India_600x670.jpg
 
.
Its called Cherry picking, old habit here ;)

Note, the statistics are provided are for 2013 or prior.

From the same link posted by Horus, check the aid received by India for 2014-15

India_600x670.jpg

LoL.
 
.
mr. administrator unlike your country's govt, our country's govt does not receive this aid, it goes to thousands of NGOs instead involved in anti-India activity. google ford foundation and you will know.
Yeah right, ODA to India goes to Indian NGOs. :lol:
ODA = Official Development Assistance. What the NGOs receive is a different type of aid. Your government has banned thousands of NGOs, yet continues to receive aid.
 
.

Latest posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom