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Only three days after the sixth round of the China-India military commander-level meeting on Monday with consensus reached by the two sides to cool rising border tensions, The Hindu quoted a "senior [Indian] government official" and suggested "If PLA (People's Liberation Army) comes close, Indian troops can fire." Such hype only embodies India is being a coward in a lion's skin.

The two countries agreed to stop sending more troops to the frontline in their latest talks. This is relatively in favor of India, because New Delhi has deployed far more troops to border areas than Beijing. In the latest conflict near the Pangong Tso Lake, Indian troops illegally crossed the border, and initially occupied some highlands. India is hoping it could maintain such an "advantage," and therefore wishes the PLA will not "come close."

Will India fire the first shot? The possibility cannot be ruled out. The Indian military, or some of its forces, are influenced by nationalist sentiment and the right-wing Hindu nationalist organization Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, which pervade all facets of Indian society. It may be true that some people want to provoke a war.

India has always been calculating on its rhetoric. If the situation is favorable to India, it would advocate that disputes could be resolved by negotiations. This is what happened in early May. But after the skirmish on June 15, when India believed it suffered a loss, the country started to clamor for war. After India's aggression near the Pangong Tso Lake at the end of August, it wanted to talk to China again.

When India tends to believe it has some advantages, it would hope to negotiate with China and try to make China concede in talks. This is what is going on for the moment. New Delhi is playing the tactic - using its small leverage to maximize returns, wishing Beijing to make a compromise in the entire region of confrontation.

The attempt to occupy more strategic heights in border areas has been India's consistent goal, a tactic through which India tries to nibble into more border areas.

However, India has difficulties to confront. Its domestic epidemic crisis is rising. Although it has deployed large-scale troops in border areas, the country's logistics sector is facing huge challenges, especially as winter approaches.

Logistics supplies play a decisive role in modern warfare. China's ability to send troops, weapons and ammunition, as well as supplies to the border far outweighs that of India. If India dares to fire the first shot, it will have no chance to fire a second one.

China wants no war and used to see India as a "brother" in developing countries. China has been proactively promoting cooperation with India, both on the bilateral level and in multinational platforms. There was a time when China hoped it could jointly rise with India, in an attempt to realize the rejuvenation of the two ancient civilizations, even the rejuvenation of Asia.

But India does not think so. It is trying to shape a new global industrial chain without China. It wants to stand with the US against the rise of China, and has been observing China's emergence from a geopolitical lens, fearing China could one day become the dominant power in Asia.

India has repeatedly been picking fights on border issues, which is a result of such mentality. India's strategic circle is now taking the border confrontation with China as a weather vane of Asia's future geopolitics. If India wins, it means China's rise can be contained; if India loses, it means China will dominate Asia. The criterion for success or failure is whether India can push Chinese troops back from the frontline, and make China accept the Indian version of the Line of Actual Control (LAC).

India has absolutely no sincerity in resolving border disputes. Its ultimate goal is to make China handle the issues according to India's will. Indian External Affairs Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar claimed on Thursday that the two powers need to accommodate each other's rise. Yet based on my understanding of Indian culture, the "accommodation" is more like a suggestion to demand China accommodate India's rise, acknowledge India's sphere of influence in South Asia, promise not to infringe upon them, and recognize India status as a global power.

If China does not fight back, it is likely that conflicts will emerge from time to time on the China-India border, which may even become a new normal. Indian moves are speculative. The time to pick up the conflicts is always well calculated. The 2017 Doklam standoff occurred right before the BRICS summit in Xiamen, China, and the 19th National Congress of the Communist Party of China. At that time, China was facing growing strategic pressure from the US. It is the same this time. Border confrontations occurred when US started to increase pressure on China, and when China was busy fighting COVID-19.

If India keeps such a tactic, China must reevaluate its previous approach and attitude toward India. Time to be tougher to India.

The author is secretary-general of the Research Center for China-South Asia Cooperation at Shanghai Institutes for International Studies, a visiting fellow of the Chongyang Institute for Financial Studies, Renmin University of China, and a distinguished fellow of the China (Kunming) South Asia & Southeast Asia Institute. opinion@globaltimes.com.cn

 
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Indian Defence Analysts Subramanian seem to be witnessing a low morale.
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Only three days after the sixth round of the China-India military commander-level meeting on Monday with consensus reached by the two sides to cool rising border tensions, The Hindu quoted a "senior [Indian] government official" and suggested "If PLA (People's Liberation Army) comes close, Indian troops can fire." Such hype only embodies India is being a coward in a lion's skin.

The two countries agreed to stop sending more troops to the frontline in their latest talks. This is relatively in favor of India, because New Delhi has deployed far more troops to border areas than Beijing. In the latest conflict near the Pangong Tso Lake, Indian troops illegally crossed the border, and initially occupied some highlands. India is hoping it could maintain such an "advantage," and therefore wishes the PLA will not "come close."

Will India fire the first shot? The possibility cannot be ruled out. The Indian military, or some of its forces, are influenced by nationalist sentiment and the right-wing Hindu nationalist organization Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, which pervade all facets of Indian society. It may be true that some people want to provoke a war.

India has always been calculating on its rhetoric. If the situation is favorable to India, it would advocate that disputes could be resolved by negotiations. This is what happened in early May. But after the skirmish on June 15, when India believed it suffered a loss, the country started to clamor for war. After India's aggression near the Pangong Tso Lake at the end of August, it wanted to talk to China again.

When India tends to believe it has some advantages, it would hope to negotiate with China and try to make China concede in talks. This is what is going on for the moment. New Delhi is playing the tactic - using its small leverage to maximize returns, wishing Beijing to make a compromise in the entire region of confrontation.

The attempt to occupy more strategic heights in border areas has been India's consistent goal, a tactic through which India tries to nibble into more border areas.

However, India has difficulties to confront. Its domestic epidemic crisis is rising. Although it has deployed large-scale troops in border areas, the country's logistics sector is facing huge challenges, especially as winter approaches.

Logistics supplies play a decisive role in modern warfare. China's ability to send troops, weapons and ammunition, as well as supplies to the border far outweighs that of India. If India dares to fire the first shot, it will have no chance to fire a second one.

China wants no war and used to see India as a "brother" in developing countries. China has been proactively promoting cooperation with India, both on the bilateral level and in multinational platforms. There was a time when China hoped it could jointly rise with India, in an attempt to realize the rejuvenation of the two ancient civilizations, even the rejuvenation of Asia.

But India does not think so. It is trying to shape a new global industrial chain without China. It wants to stand with the US against the rise of China, and has been observing China's emergence from a geopolitical lens, fearing China could one day become the dominant power in Asia.

India has repeatedly been picking fights on border issues, which is a result of such mentality. India's strategic circle is now taking the border confrontation with China as a weather vane of Asia's future geopolitics. If India wins, it means China's rise can be contained; if India loses, it means China will dominate Asia. The criterion for success or failure is whether India can push Chinese troops back from the frontline, and make China accept the Indian version of the Line of Actual Control (LAC).

India has absolutely no sincerity in resolving border disputes. Its ultimate goal is to make China handle the issues according to India's will. Indian External Affairs Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar claimed on Thursday that the two powers need to accommodate each other's rise. Yet based on my understanding of Indian culture, the "accommodation" is more like a suggestion to demand China accommodate India's rise, acknowledge India's sphere of influence in South Asia, promise not to infringe upon them, and recognize India status as a global power.

If China does not fight back, it is likely that conflicts will emerge from time to time on the China-India border, which may even become a new normal. Indian moves are speculative. The time to pick up the conflicts is always well calculated. The 2017 Doklam standoff occurred right before the BRICS summit in Xiamen, China, and the 19th National Congress of the Communist Party of China. At that time, China was facing growing strategic pressure from the US. It is the same this time. Border confrontations occurred when US started to increase pressure on China, and when China was busy fighting COVID-19.

If India keeps such a tactic, China must reevaluate its previous approach and attitude toward India. Time to be tougher to India.

The author is secretary-general of the Research Center for China-South Asia Cooperation at Shanghai Institutes for International Studies, a visiting fellow of the Chongyang Institute for Financial Studies, Renmin University of China, and a distinguished fellow of the China (Kunming) South Asia & Southeast Asia Institute. opinion@globaltimes.com.cn

Yeah, that's what is puzzling for us all. China is acting very timidly against Indian belligerence. India has been occupying Southern Tibet for so long now. In Ladakh, Indians tried to choke Chinese neck by cutting off CPEC route. Indians also planned to attack China and occupy Aksai Chin. Chinese actions so far are insufficient to say the least. Just occupying thin strips of land along the defunct LAC means nothing in strategic terms. Indians can still establish military basies there in the border areas (in Ladakh and elsewhere) and station the US/Israeli troops in those bases. Then attacking those bases and dislodging American troops will be deemed as an attack on the US. Indian northern border needs to be pushed back all the way back to Indian Punjab.

I was surprised at the non-existent Chinese reaction on Indian mischief of using Tibetans (in other words, Chinese rebels) for attacking Chinese forces (i.e. Chinese bloodshed on both sides). I expected Chinese blood on the boil for this extremely grave Indian offense and mischief against Chinese people. At the minimum what China could do was start actively supporting the ongoing insurgencies in seven NE sister states in Indian union. Since not much time is left for such an effort to bear the immediate results in the short term, Chinese should have occupied the Indian Siliguri neck to cut off the seven sister states from Indian union. That way, Chinese can get rid of their ever lingering issue of Southern Tibet and Ladakh and remove any threat to the CPEC once and for all. Consistent Indian mischief, offense, and aggression needs to be punished.
 
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Yeah, that's what is puzzling for us all. China is acting very timidly against Indian belligerence. India has been occupying Southern Tibet for so long now. In Ladakh, Indians tried to choke Chinese neck by cutting off CPEC route. Indians also planned to attack China and occupy Aksai Chin. Chinese actions so far are insufficient to say the least. Just occupying thin strips of land along the defunct LAC means nothing in strategic terms. Indians can still establish military basies there in the border areas (in Ladakh and elsewhere) and station the US/Israeli troops in those bases. Then attacking those bases and dislodging American troops will be deemed as an attack on the US. Indian northern border needs to be pushed back all the way back to Indian Punjab.

I was surprised at the non-existent Chinese reaction on Indian mischief of using Tibetans (in other words, Chinese rebels) for attacking Chinese forces (i.e. Chinese bloodshed on both sides). I expected Chinese blood on the boil for this extremely grave Indian offense and mischief against Chinese people. At the minimum what China could do was start actively supporting the ongoing insurgencies in seven NE sister states in Indian union. Since not much time is left for such an effort to bear the immediate results in the short term, Chinese should have occupied the Indian Siliguri neck to cut off the seven sister states from Indian union. That way, Chinese can get rid of their ever lingering issue of Southern Tibet and Ladakh and remove any threat to the CPEC once and for all. Consistent Indian mischief, offense, and aggression needs to be punished.

The Chinese response to Indian misadventure is unprecedented. Remember that we have never seen such deadly hostilities in recent years. To put things into perspective, China beat Indian soldiers to death with sticks. China has made its intentions crystal clear. After Indian agression in occupied Kashmir and misadventures at the LAC the Chinese have indeed woken up. Expect China to move forward from here onwards. The US and Israel can't do shit to assist India in this regard. India is all alone in this fight. Taking sides would mean an initiation of a proxy war.
 
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Yeah, that's what is puzzling for us all. China is acting very timidly against Indian belligerence. India has been occupying Southern Tibet for so long now. In Ladakh, Indians tried to choke Chinese neck by cutting off CPEC route. Indians also planned to attack China and occupy Aksai Chin. Chinese actions so far are insufficient to say the least. Just occupying thin strips of land along the defunct LAC means nothing in strategic terms. Indians can still establish military basies there in the border areas (in Ladakh and elsewhere) and station the US/Israeli troops in those bases. Then attacking those bases and dislodging American troops will be deemed as an attack on the US. Indian northern border needs to be pushed back all the way back to Indian Punjab.

I was surprised at the non-existent Chinese reaction on Indian mischief of using Tibetans (in other words, Chinese rebels) for attacking Chinese forces (i.e. Chinese bloodshed on both sides). I expected Chinese blood on the boil for this extremely grave Indian offense and mischief against Chinese people. At the minimum what China could do was start actively supporting the ongoing insurgencies in seven NE sister states in Indian union. Since not much time is left for such an effort to bear the immediate results in the short term, Chinese should have occupied the Indian Siliguri neck to cut off the seven sister states from Indian union. That way, Chinese can get rid of their ever lingering issue of Southern Tibet and Ladakh and remove any threat to the CPEC once and for all. Consistent Indian mischief, offense, and aggression needs to be punished.
Why is China too tolerant of India?
Because:
India is the main enemy of China's secondary strategic direction;
China is the main enemy of India's main strategic direction.
China needs to spend a lot of energy to deal with the United States, India does not need.
 
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Why is China too tolerant of India?
Because:
India is the main enemy of China's secondary strategic direction;
China is the main enemy of India's main strategic direction.
China needs to spend a lot of energy to deal with the United States, India does not need.
Yeah, not because you're scared of the outcome of an all-out war.
 
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I think India has already fired the shots... Is China waiting for Second round?


Hawai firing? Firing as in towards the opposition army. India don't have balls for that even after 20 Indians soldiers were clubbed to death.
 
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Hawai firing? Firing as in towards the opposition army. India don't have balls for that even after 20 Indians soldiers were clubbed to death.
If you read Global Times, you will know who is moaning.. cut the slack and ask China to grow a pair else you Pakistanies can give them a pair.... You mean to say China is incapable of handling a country that doesn't have balls...
 
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