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Rohingya issue should not get in the way, Star-CFAS roundtable told

The Rohingya issue should not become an impediment to the growth of Bangladesh-Myanmar relationship which must move forward under all circumstances, former diplomats and experts said at a roundtable yesterday.

The resolution to the maritime boundary dispute with Myanmar has removed a major obstacle to bilateral ties and opened up a grand opportunity to expand the relationship, they added.

The Rohingya intrusion is only one among other issues in the bilateral relationship which must be kept above all conflicts, they emphasised.

The speakers supported the government steps on the recent influx bid by Rohingyas and said the country should bilaterally and internationally try to sensitise Myanmar to the issue and persuade it to treat Rohingyas fairly as they are its own citizens.

The Daily Star and Centre for Foreign Affairs Studies (CFAS) jointly organised the roundtable tilted "Rohingya issue and Bangladesh-Myanmar relations".

Former foreign secretary CM Shafi Sami said the relationship should not be contingent upon resolution to the Rohingya problem; formidable issues should be kept on one side and relationship on the other.

"We should get Myanmar into a constructive engagement the way China, India and Singapore are doing.

"Bangladesh simultaneously should try and sensitise the Myanmar government to basic rights of all its citizens, he said.

At the same time, he noted, Dhaka also needs to mobilise the diplomatic community all over the world, especially the US, EU and international agencies, to help the Myanmar government to discharge its responsibilities.

Saida Muna Tasneem, director general (UN) of foreign ministry, said official visits between Bangladesh and Myanmar from 2009 onwards are taking the trajectory of relationship to a new level and the country wants to keep it up.

"We acted responsibly towards the Myanmarese nationals and lived up to human rights obligations," she said. "We have not violated any international law by not accepting them [Rohingyas]. Bangladesh gave Myanmarese refugees sovereign land for the past three decades."

Mentioning that security aspect of Bangladesh remains the top priority, Saida said the country needs to consolidate its borders since Myanmar nationals are intruding now and then.

Myanmarese refugees have been transiting through Bangladesh in an attempt to go to other countries as they, with false Bangladeshi passports, have disappeared into Saudi Arabia putting bilateral relations in question, she said.

"We have been hosting them for the last three decades and we cannot afford to take anymore," she said. According to the foreign ministry report, around 600 Rohingyas were pushed back from the border this time.

Former election commissioner Brig Gen (retd) Shakhawat Hossain said the Rohingya issue has become complicated due to use of refugees by some unscrupulous politicians.

Every time, during the preparation of voter list, the Myanmar refugees were included to be used as vote bank, he said, adding that it is the unscrupulous Bangladeshis who are inviting the trouble.

Another dangerous thing is that the Arakanese Buddhists who are coming to Bandarban are carrying out disruptive activities, he added.

He also urged the home ministry not to allow any Rohingya organisation within the country.

“Unless the Myanmar government is made to recognise Rohingyas as citizens of that country, we will have to face this problem time and again,” said Shakhawat.

Air Commodore (retd) Ishfaq Elahi Choudhury, registrar of Brac University, said refusing the entry of a person seeking help and sending them back to the sea is something that harms Bangladesh's image throughout the world.

It went against the traditional Bangalee culture and way of dealing things, he said. It is said that Rohingyas hide among local population but that's the problem of governance.

Former ambassador to Myanmar Kazi Anwarul Masud said, "Bangladesh should request the international agencies and key players to tell the Myanmar government that 'you cannot do such kind of persecution or ethnic cleansing'."

Dhaka University Professor Dr Akmal Hussain said the democratisation of Myanmar is a positive aspect and all major international actors are interested in Myanmar.

"Why can't we ask the international bodies to influence Myanmar to solve the Rohingya issue? This problem has to be solved once and for all, otherwise the influx will recur."

Former ambassador Chowdhury Khalequzzaman said the international community should deal the issue diplomatically instead of putting much pressure on Myanmar. Myanmar may not succumb to the pressure.

“It would be absolutely wrong if we think of solving the Rohingya issue first and then developing other relations.”

Lt Gen (retd) Mahbubur Rahman, BNP standing committee member, said if someone is persecuted, he/she has the right to seek refuge and to be treated as a person not just a number.

The Daily Star Editor and Publisher Mahfuz Anam said, "We want the Bangladesh-Myanmar relationship to go ahead under all circumstances. Even if the Rohingya issue becomes more complex, our bilateral relationship should progress."

However, the refugees must be treated on humanitarian grounds, he added.

He also said Myanmar is gaining more importance in global and regional scenes, and being the second close neighbour, the country means a lot to Bangladesh in terms of economic relationship.

Moderated by CFAS Chairman Ashfaqur Rahman, the roundtable held at The Daily Star Centre was addressed by Chief Information Commissioner Muhammad Zamir, lawmaker Mostofa Faruk Mohammad, former IGP Muhammad Nurul Huda; Maj Gen (retd) Azizur Rahman Bir Uttam, CFAS Director Shamim Ahmed; former principal of Foreign Service Academy Shahed Akhtar, former ambassador Mahmood Hasan and Brig Gen (retd) Shahedul Anam Khan, editor, op-ed and strategic issues of The Daily Star.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=239779

Another dangerous thing is that the Arakanese Buddhists who are coming to Bandarban are carrying out disruptive activities, he added.

Who the........?
 
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It's very simple, work with the Burmese on allowing Rohingya to settle in Bangladesh and all the good things you're talking about will happen. Screw us around and we'll ignore you.

BTW I infer that the daily star is some sort of national paper. Expect a few articles about Myanmar before Thein Sein comes. I'm sure there'll be some jingoism aswell.
 
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It's very simple, work with the Burmese on allowing Rohingya to settle in Bangladesh and all the good things you're talking about will happen. Screw us around and we'll ignore you.

BTW I infer that the daily star is some sort of national paper. Expect a few articles about Myanmar before Thein Sein comes. I'm sure there'll be some jingoism aswell.

The Daily Star is more of a leftist newspaper.
 
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It's very simple, work with the Burmese on allowing Rohingya to settle in Bangladesh and all the good things you're talking about will happen. Screw us around and we'll ignore you.

BTW I infer that the daily star is some sort of national paper. Expect a few articles about Myanmar before Thein Sein comes. I'm sure there'll be some jingoism aswell.

If that's the attitude then the new height isn't what you are dreaming will become in future mate. First of all it is not in our culture to turn away people who are in need of help or assistance. Secondly we don't screw around, we fcuk them up so bad that they don't get another chance. Just try not reaching that height mate.
You need Bangladesh's co-operation more than we need you.

Daily Star is by far the most respectable , widely read news paper in our country.
 
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Daily star is the only newspaper worthy of reading in BD. Rest are trash, you wont find any difference between news there and what bd members write here.
 
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If that's the attitude then the new height isn't what you are dreaming will become in future mate. First of all it is not in our culture to turn away people who are in need of help or assistance. Secondly we don't screw around, we fcuk them up so bad that they don't get another chance. Just try not reaching that height mate.
You need Bangladesh's co-operation more than we need you.

Daily Star is by far the most respectable , widely read news paper in our country.

I am starting to fear that we may have to bear the brunt of the Rohingya matter. Not to mention our massive population (the root of all our problems). I may be wrong. Who knows?

Secondly, I don't think we'd get to fcuk Myanmar up in anyway whatsoever.

By rejecting the refugees, and forcing the International Community to 'pressure' Myanmar; not only are we potentially sending the wrong signals to that country, but also to the International Community.

Can we name any one Western or GCC country that has a favorable view of our present administration?

Our FM did not kindly take the comments of the visiting German FM's comments on human rights issues in Bangladesh. Is that how a professional diplomat does things? Similar things happened during Hillary's visit. And let's not forget, the assassination of a Saudi diplomat is still unsolved.

Do they seriously think that the International Community can just 'pressure' Myanmar with that sort of attitude from the AL administration? In my opinion, such arrogance, and such insolence must be punished.

On the other hand, ASSK is the darling of the West. A political media celebrity. It'd be hard to beat that on our part.

Other than 'pressuring' Myanmar, we should take into account this present administration, and how they are damaging relations with our friends and allies.
 
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It's very simple, work with the Burmese on allowing Rohingya to settle in Bangladesh and all the good things you're talking about will happen. Screw us around and we'll ignore you.

BTW I infer that the daily star is some sort of national paper. Expect a few articles about Myanmar before Thein Sein comes. I'm sure there'll be some jingoism aswell.

It is interesting to read today that Chakmas of Rangamati/BD raised Indian flag, Marma of Bandarban/BD raised Burmese flag, Rohingiyas of Arakan raised Pakistani flag in 1947 partition time. Seems to me everybody moved on and the Chakmas accpeted BD flag, Marmas accept BD flags too, Rohingiyas accepted Burmese flags but only people who did not moved on are the Burmese themselves. They still want Rohingiyas out of their country. That's pretty raw.

I am starting to fear that we may have to bear the brunt of the Rohingya matter. Not to mention our massive population (the root of all our problems). I may be wrong. Who knows?

Secondly, I don't think we'd get to fcuk Myanmar up in anyway whatsoever.

By rejecting the refugees, and forcing the International Community to 'pressure' Myanmar; not only are we potentially sending the wrong signals to that country, but also to the International Community.

Can we name any one Western or GCC country that has a favorable view of our present administration?

Our FM did not kindly take the comments of the visiting German FM's comments on human rights issues in Bangladesh. Is that how a professional diplomat does things? Similar things happened during Hillary's visit. And let's not forget, the assassination of a Saudi diplomat is still unsolved.

Do they seriously think that the International Community can just 'pressure' Myanmar with that sort of attitude from the AL administration? In my opinion, such arrogance, and such insolence must be punished.

On the other hand, ASSK is the darling of the West. A political media celebrity. It'd be hard to beat that on our part.

Other than 'pressuring' Myanmar, we should take into account this present administration, and how they are damaging relations with our friends and allies.

Bangladesh already told the world that Myanmar is taking the right step in Arakan. What else the world community would do then?
 
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It's very simple, work with the Burmese on allowing Rohingya to settle in Bangladesh and all the good things you're talking about will happen. Screw us around and we'll ignore you.

BTW I infer that the daily star is some sort of national paper. Expect a few articles about Myanmar before Thein Sein comes. I'm sure there'll be some jingoism aswell.

Don't think you will get away with trying to expel Rohingya from your country.

BD will always be a much more powerful country than your litle tribe ever could be.

Little people should act appropriately.
 
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Don't think you will get away with trying to expel Rohingya from your country.

BD will always be a much more powerful country than your litle tribe ever could be.

Little people should act appropriately.

I love it when I get responses like this. :lol: Hey, you sound quite young so you probably wouldn't know but did you know that if Japan and the Axis won the war, Bangladesh would have been gifted to the Restored Burmese Empire? I wonder what that would have done for your national pride? :lol:

I am starting to fear that we may have to bear the brunt of the Rohingya matter. Not to mention our massive population (the root of all our problems). I may be wrong. Who knows?

Secondly, I don't think we'd get to fcuk Myanmar up in anyway whatsoever.

By rejecting the refugees, and forcing the International Community to 'pressure' Myanmar; not only are we potentially sending the wrong signals to that country, but also to the International Community.

Can we name any one Western or GCC country that has a favorable view of our present administration?

Our FM did not kindly take the comments of the visiting German FM's comments on human rights issues in Bangladesh. Is that how a professional diplomat does things? Similar things happened during Hillary's visit. And let's not forget, the assassination of a Saudi diplomat is still unsolved.

Do they seriously think that the International Community can just 'pressure' Myanmar with that sort of attitude from the AL administration? In my opinion, such arrogance, and such insolence must be punished.

On the other hand, ASSK is the darling of the West. A political media celebrity. It'd be hard to beat that on our part.

Other than 'pressuring' Myanmar, we should take into account this present administration, and how they are damaging relations with our friends and allies.

The thing that pleases me most about the international community is that while the media are taking the populist anti-Myanmar stance, world leaders and organisations themselves have been quietly praising Myanmar and quietly asking Bangladesh to open its borders. Playing devil's advocate for a minute, it could be because everyone realises that no country would wish to shelter muslim outsiders. I don't know. There seemed to be no love from the international community when Thailand left them to die on the seas. That's why I go back to my point that I truly sypathise with their plight.

I'm sure if you relent on the Rohingyas, the Burmese will make it worth your while.
 
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I love it when I get responses like this. :lol: Hey, you sound quite young so you probably wouldn't know but did you know that if Japan and the Axis won the war, Bangladesh would have been gifted to the Restored Burmese Empire? I wonder what that would have done for your national pride? :lol:

The fact is that this did not happen, so really it is irrelevant.

Anyway carry on with your racist ways, you will only suffer in the end.
 
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I love it when I get responses like this. :lol: Hey, you sound quite young so you probably wouldn't know but did you know that if Japan and the Axis won the war, Bangladesh would have been gifted to the Restored Burmese Empire? I wonder what that would have done for your national pride? :lol:

British gifted Myamar to India does not mean Japanese would gift India to Myanmar.. You wont be able to hold the weight.. LOL

Japanese had far bigger player than Su Kiys father to deal with India. Heard of Netaji Subash Chandra Bose??? Su Kiys father was just a foot soldier.. Baw Maw was a player who worked with Netaji...

Subhas Chandra Bose - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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British gifted Myamar to India does not mean Japanese would gift India to Myanmar.. You wont be able to hold the weight.. LOL

Japanese had far bigger player than Su Kiys father to deal with India. Heard of Netaji Subash Chandra Bose??? Su Kiys father was just a foot soldier.. Baw Maw was a player who worked with Netaji...

Subhas Chandra Bose - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Who said anything about gifting India? I'm talking about your Bangladesh. The one that I'm supposed to look up to in fear. :lol:
 
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Who said anything about gifting India? I'm talking about your Bangladesh. The one that I'm supposed to look up to in fear. :lol:

Well Netaji was the leader of Bengal.. It would had been Bengalis taking over Myanmar then... Mr. Bose had huge army under his command.
 
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The fact is that this did not happen, so really it is irrelevant.

Anyway carry on with your racist ways, you will only suffer in the end.

I'm racist now? I thought I was a 'little person'? :lol:

Well Netaji was the leader of Bengal.. It would had been Bengalis taking over Myanmar then... Mr. Bose had huge army under his command.

Yeah, sure.
 
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