THUNDER STRIKES IN MANY FORMS

[Maxpane]

Interesting . Waiting for block 3

 

[denel]

Raad ALCM is carried by Mirages.

That is what I thought as well. JF-17 is as of yet unable to carry it because of integration/clearance issues - a new modified version was being worked upon. That is also the reason why M3 are sticking around; otherwise it was fait accompli

 

[ziaulislam]

Jf-17 can carry and fire RA'AD since a long time.

Jf-17 block 1 could carry RA'AD. and it was the first missile integrated on the jet. RA'AD has multiple variants now. The range of RA'AD has also been extended.

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Jf-17 can carry GB-6 which is sat guided glide bomb. GB-6 is more bigger and heavier than RAAD.

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So far no need to get raad in as that role is for m5
But i think Pakistan need a low cost conventional cruise missle designed for jf 17

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

JF17 is a conventional platform, for conventional air defence of the national air space. Raad is a multi use weapon, with conventional and other payloads. JF17 does not carry Raad, and may not carry Raad. There are no integration issues with WMMC and SMS is indigenous, so are the rails and hard points. The matter is simple policy. JF17 is not part of the strategic forces, and only for National Air Defence. However, speculations can continue to no limit.

Other day two member told you Jf-17 has a RAAD pay load. Now why RAAD is not displayed in jf-17 munition is because RAAD cannot be sold as it is a nuclear capable cruise missile which exceeds the allowed range of weapons sales. No country can sell such weapons and if some country want such weapon it has to develop them so RAAD will never be displayed in international exhibitions. RAAD was only displayed in ideas 2008 after that missile was taken away from there as well. The current status of RAAD is fully classified so you will not probably see it much only if a newer version is tested you might get a glimps of it.

Yes mostly. All Raads are in Service and deployed at appropriate Sqns.

 

[BHarwana]

So far no need to get raad in as that role is for m5
But i think Pakistan need a low cost conventional cruise missle designed for jf 17

RAAD was the first missile on JF-17 to be integrated and was done many years ago. JF-17 is inducted to replace mirage. Jf-17 also has a cheaper som missile from Turkey integrated into it.
The whole purpose of induction of jf-17 was for alcm triad to deter India.

Fishing will not help.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

That is what I thought as well. JF-17 is as of yet unable to carry it because of integration/clearance issues - a new modified version was being worked upon. That is also the reason why M3 are sticking around; otherwise it was fait accompli

There are many programs underway in Pakistan, and that shall come to light in the future. In general, the trend in our theatre will now shift to beyond supersonic weapons, since India tipped and upset the balance and brought Yakhount (Brahmos) in play. Also enters S400 in 2020, hence, the weapon, strategies and ops doctrines will now shift tremendously, and so will the combat loads. The good thing is that Pakistan is fully capable to integrate such payloads on the JFT, thanks for the wonderful and super capable teams at KARF.

 

[BHarwana]

JF17 is a conventional platform, for conventional air defence of the national air space. Raad is a multi use weapon, with conventional and other payloads. JF17 does not carry Raad, and may not carry Raad. There are no integration issues with WMMC and SMS is indigenous, so are the rails and hard points. The matter is simple policy. JF17 is not part of the strategic forces, and only for National Air Defence. However, speculations can continue to no limit.



Yes mostly. All Raads are in Service and deployed at appropriate Sqns.

I don't know about RAAD deployment.

 

[ziaulislam]

RAAD was the first missile on JF-17 to be integrated and was done many years ago. JF-17 is inducted to replace mirage. Jf-17 also has a cheaper som missile from Turkey integrated into it.
The whole purpose of induction of jf-17 was for alcm triad to deter India.

Fishing will not help.

Fishing?

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

Just made a video on thunder,I learned all of these points and facts from this forum,a rought video without any script so you can take out errors and mistakes.Thanks !

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

They were working on the software integration but no confirmation on whether progress; plus the size is a challenge as well; side by side is a possibility.

So far no need to get raad in as that role is for m5
But i think Pakistan need a low cost conventional cruise missle designed for jf 17

JF-17 has conventional SOW solutions, e.g., the REK (can glide 60-100 km) and C-802 AShM. With the two you have a baseline ability to attack fixed and sea-based targets. Anything beyond that is an issue of economics and end-user preference.

 

[ziaulislam]

JF-17 has conventional SOW solutions, e.g., the REK (can glide 60-100 km) and C-802 AShM. With the two you have a baseline ability to attack fixed and sea-based targets. Anything beyond that is an issue of economics and end-user preference.

may be PAF should acquire Raptor 3 for JF-17 something with range of ~200km.. same way it developed weapons from I & II
are H-2 and H-4 deployed on thunder..especially the H2 as it is rocket assisted

 

[MastanKhan]

They were working on the software integration but no confirmation on whether progress; plus the size is a challenge as well; side by side is a possibility.

Hi,

Realistically---it is next to impossible for a small aircraft to have 2 Raad missiles and stay stable after one of them is launched---.

The missile is heavy---FBW etc won't help---.

 

[war&peace]

Sir its on the plan chart. But Raad not integrated yet. The chart also doesn't say it's Raad. It shows the option on that point for a fit to size cruise missile, but doesn't specify which one. Raad is bigger

Remaining weapons are mentioned with thier names. Dedicated for those points

Stop lying kiddo... Ra'ad got a integrated more than two years ago..

 

[Fawad alam]

Stop lying kiddo... Ra'ad got a integrated more than two years ago..

During Ideas-2018 i asked PAC member about Raad Integration, he said Block-III will be capable of Raad (Block-II is having some technical difficulties for integration related with hard-points) and Block-III will appear in 2020 InshaAllah.

 

[salman-1]

Stop lying kiddo... Ra'ad got a integrated more than two years ago..

Try to have some technical info before hopping.