Three Different Radars Recorded The SU-30 Kill

[Shane]

Hi,

I appreciate your post very much---you are correct in what you are saying---.

For that very reason I have been saying for a long time---when the time comes---many a buttons would not be pushed---regardless of the race---color---religion or belief---.

And for that very reason---I have stated it for many years---the nuc umbrella has been a curse on us for not preparing properly for a conventional war.

Look at the US---no one has more nucs than the US---but then look at its conventional capabilities---or look at Israel---the same---.

The differences between the nations would stay & there will be wars---but smarter nations would avoid the nuc conflict by staying stronger thru conventional means---.

He'd look for a palm full of water if he knew any better. Expats are life line for Pakistan, it's most precious and irreplaceable resource.

 

[SQ8]

A bigger fallacy is to believe people on a forum when they say they are from such and such country or profession. While there is no definitive way to ascertain someones true loyalty, an amalgamated study of a particular individual's comments on the forum can certainly lend a clue. This common sense conclusion can be easy to deduce especially if the comments are wildly fantastic, devoid of proof and meant to entice confusion and emotional responses. One can further deduce the weak minded rabble among the forum by taking note of the supporters and well wishers of the the poster I just described. Watch your six!

And that is the problem with any anonymous platform and the conundrum of fake news.

Moreover they are too invested emotionally especially in politics and geopolitics to consider the general digital worthlessness of the venture.

 

[TheTallGuy]

You must have been following on multiple Radar Locks and then treated as Kills which is not the case. Cat & Mouse game was played for around a minute or so where challenges were thrown. Both sides have Radar Lock tones, the few accepted and dared while the herd ran away; was the case in the end.

Sir Jee, can we agree to disagree..i know something you dont know..

 

[The Eagle]

Sir Jee, can we agree to disagree..i know something you dont know..

My friend,

I will fed you what I want to and that is the exact case here as "I know".

Disagreement comes later with an understanding of a matter being available in public and then intellect prove their intelligence. Speaking of natter at hand, even the boys not involved in Op know much. I will take CAS on this as credible at any time as compare to new flyers yet learning under someone's supervision.

Indeed, I don't know anything my friend hence, my clear conscience.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

8 x kills (3 x Su-30MKI (2 x No.15 Sqn, 1 x No.221 Sqn), 2 x Mirage 2000i(No.1 Sqn detachment at Srinagar) 3 x MiG-21BISON (3 x No.51 Sqn)

4 pilots in custody 2 x Israelis 2 x Indians 1 x Indian Returned Alive.

initially claimed 6 x Targets hit (Later adjusted to 4) 1 x Div HQ, 1 x Brig HQ, 1 x Ammunition dump, 1 x Supply/logistics Center or another ammunition dump what are the remain 2 targets some say Green Pine or Sword Fish Radar at KG Top

we have 2 pilots that have more then 1 kill to there credit.

i have a huge list to smile about and things will open up

Israili pilot(s) in the Pak custody = Financial bailout + favorable US stance + less international media onslaughts + some military goodies + less Indian nuisance +......

 

[NA71]

the unofficial reports were coming from multiple sources that more than two kills.....and after official statement came...we went down to two kills. and after couple of days.... mysterious IAF crashes, road accident, Indian desperation for rafales and talk of technological asymmetry ....all adding doubts and vogue spell of disinformation.

 

[TheTallGuy]

My friend,

I will fed you what I want to and that is the exact case here as "I know".

Disagreement comes later with an understanding of a matter being available in public and then intellect prove their intelligence. Speaking of natter at hand, even the boys not involved in Op know much. I will take CAS on this as credible at any time as compare to new flyers yet learning under someone's supervision.

Indeed, I don't know anything my friend hence, my clear conscience.

Sir jee, I never meant to be blunt! or hurt your feelings! please agree to disagree..

Some thing which is a worry! Time...we dont have time! people here are talking about years..but i dont want be prophetic but its around the corner! i even dare to suggest i worry about Trump-imran meeting happening!

I would request everybody to pray for Pakistan...

Israili pilot(s) in the Pak custody = Financial bailout + favorable US stance + less international media onslaughts + some military goodies + less Indian nuisance +......

Welcome back...Long time no see..were you at?

Main Goal is "Achieve dominance over enemies will to fight" once that is achieved issues are resolved. 1st step in that direction is mutiny in enemies rank and file...

 

[NA71]

Sir jee, I never meant to be blunt! or hurt your feelings! please agree to disagree..

Some thing which is a worry! Time...we dont have time! people here are talking about years..but i dont want be prophetic but its around the corner! i even dare to suggest i worry about Trump-imran meeting happening!

I would request everybody to pray for Pakistan...

100% right ....as i mentioned in previous posts, this could happen with in months....the enemy will never allow you to bolster your defenses....they try to engage within the conventional threshold level...may be without a triggering event like Pulwama incident.

 

[TheTallGuy]

@Mangus Ortus Novem

Sir jee, There is a saying "Allah bimar ke dua jaldi sunta hai" i pray for your well being! please pray for Pakistan well being!

On side note this for you!

 

[The Eagle]

Sir jee, I never meant to be blunt! or hurt your feelings! please agree to disagree..

I am not even coming to your information let alone disagreement on it. Then comes the feeling and hurt, let me share an experience on this very board. An Indian member namely Sharma, if I remember correctly, been very "Badami" asking innocent question while acting like "know all" but use to present academic analysis for discussion. Found him on a thread that was about PN nuclear sub started by Oscar, long time back and I quoted him for something called "Information". You might want to read that. Just saying.

And even after that, if I have to enforce a specific official narrative, I have areas of expertise to exercise but that is not the case here. What I am saying is, knowing is more like a responsibility till you don't speak but something being shared is never a secrete in the first place.

Yes, things are very serious and there is assessment as well. However, what makes us different is the belief and that is, every soul has to taste the death do why not to make it worth.

 

[TheTallGuy]

Yes, things are very serious and there is assessment as well. However, what makes us different is the belief and that is, every soul has to taste the death do why not to make it worth.

as i told you before i am no military man nor i have any state secret nor i have chacha mama taya bhai in airforce/army or navy...i assure you those who serve in uniform i am not a inch in front of those mountainous men and women!

so i am free...what i am putting up - you and @Horus been kind enough to bare with me for exactly 93 days uptill now and i hope 27 days more...is based upon educated/subjective/deductive reasoning..

let me assure you i will leave Karachi and go Dog hunting when time comes...

My very dear Pak,

My young brother... I am actually quite concerned... may Allah keep My Pak, Our Land safe... this is War!

State vs. the Rest.

Lips of Wisdom must remain sealed... however, I do believe that those who need to understand, understand....

We must manage this situation internally with caution but ruthlessly... many vectors simultaneously acting in unison...

PMIK visit can be historic IF it takes place... forces against the New Paradigm are hell bent for opposite..

Allha behtar karay ga... IA.

Please, allow me to thankyou for the good old days song... memories of my Pak Youth... what a Beautiful Pakistan I left behind... wish to see it back.

I have prayed for your success... and you know it... tick tock... Beautiful North. Timing is the primary issue here... but then history is made in moments, I guess.

You be good..take good care of yourself and remember me in your prayers... trust me I need it!

Sincerely,

Mangus

Your prayer much appreciated...you take care of yourself too.

 

[YeBeWarned]

2006, a dual national was willing to bring $5 million of his own money to invest into the infrastructure of Peshawar for lighting and connected streets. The Islamic party leader in the area demanded a bribe if $1 million to let HIM improve things.

About 100 Pakistani internist doctors from JUST one city in Pakistan undertake a free clinic excursion to Pakistan on their expenses to treat upto 50000 a month.
This doesn’t include additional surgeons, ophthalmologists and so on.
This happens across the US (not including Europe) so multiply that figure.

Pakistani Alumni from multiple universities here in the US sponsor around 2000 schools in Pakistan, include other foundations and the figure jumps to 10000.

About 100000 professionals of Pakistani origin or decent conduct sessions with US policy makers via organizations to push pro-Pakistan policies.

They have EVERY right to criticize the tax evaders and corrupt blood in their country.

On the other hand, try getting a free treatment at a Pakistani hospital.

Being ill informed and making ignorant statements doesn’t behoove you.

first of all, lets not get personal .. everyone has ton of chacha mamu taya living and citizen of US or Canada .. so you are not unique to mention that how billions of dollars are sent by oversea Pakistani's .

out of your emotional burst you didn't even understand the point, you are mixing corruption of Politicians to an average Pakistani who pay taxes, from bills to sales tax, from Salary to whatever tax .

my Uncle is Canadian living there for over 30 years, if he doesn't even like to be associated with Pakistan, than he has no right to criticize Pakistan, you are not living here , you are not doing anything to improve it so shut up ( to my uncle ) .

Corruption exists everywhere, you think US has no corruption ? no bribes ? no lobbying ? but when these so called " Pakistani born " criticize Pakistan for, they forget this simple fact . The only reason no one wants to talk about corruption in America is because no one wants to p!ss America .

These corrupt Politicians which were installed and yes Installed upon us by the same US/UK governments, while giving them support and protection , first these so called Pakistanis need to do something to solve that, ask their govt's to make sure these corrupt people dont get safe heavens for their money which they looted from Pakistan.



its a long debate my friend which has no end, so lets get back to topic

 

[Blueskiez 2001]

Sir Jee, can we agree to disagree..i know something you dont know..

From the internet...

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Main Goal is "Achieve dominance over enemies will to fight" once that is achieved issues are resolved. 1st step in that direction is mutiny in enemies rank and file...

Definitely a good strategy for the Hakikat supports it...

According to the Turkish sources the capability of the Sheyatin, who control the mindsets of the majority of mankind as per the KITAP, has been on a downfall since 2012...

 

[SQ8]

first of all, lets not get personal .. everyone has ton of chacha mamu taya living and citizen of US or Canada .. so you are not unique to mention that how billions of dollars are sent by oversea Pakistani's .

out of your emotional burst you didn't even understand the point, you are mixing corruption of Politicians to an average Pakistani who pay taxes, from bills to sales tax, from Salary to whatever tax .

my Uncle is Canadian living there for over 30 years, if he doesn't even like to be associated with Pakistan, than he has no right to criticize Pakistan, you are not living here , you are not doing anything to improve it so shut up ( to my uncle ) .

Corruption exists everywhere, you think US has no corruption ? no bribes ? no lobbying ? but when these so called " Pakistani born " criticize Pakistan for, they forget this simple fact . The only reason no one wants to talk about corruption in America is because no one wants to p!ss America .

These corrupt Politicians which were installed and yes Installed upon us by the same US/UK governments, while giving them support and protection , first these so called Pakistanis need to do something to solve that, ask their govt's to make sure these corrupt people dont get safe heavens for their money which they looted from Pakistan.



its a long debate my friend which has no end, so lets get back to topic

Average Pakistani DOESN'T pay tax on anything other than consumables.
Their incomes are NOT taxes.
Only a percentage of the middle white collar variety pay it; this is from the FBR itself.
Lets agree to disagree