There is something fundamentally wrong with Pakistani parenting style in the diaspora

[Yankee-stani]

There is something fundamentally wrong with Pakistani Parenting in the diaspora I know its taboo topic because being that Pakistan is a 98 percent Islamic country and very conservative one the respect of elders and parents in general is taken highly I am not against that but I think a good chuck of the elders and parents from our background misuse that responsibility,example its very common from a early age to abuse kids verbally and physically anytime a child wants to fight back or counter their relatives or friends automatically put blame on the child even when the parents are the culprit of abuse this continues even further into adulthood,also I think most Pakistani elders no offense are low key racist or prejudice towards other Muslims heck even fellow Pakistani Muslims from different ethnicity or group even if follow all the rules and you cause no ruckus abuse continues this is taking for granted it's no wonder 2nd gen or 3rd gen folks are self hating and dont want to identify with anything Pakistani

 

[YeBeWarned]

Other than my mother and Father, rest of the elder if say something that P!ss me off , will get almost equal response from me ..

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Personally I think the diaspora has far greater problems than parenting styles! I honestly wish that was our only problem.

 

[undercover JIX]

New Gen/Children think this way when too much western influence makes them dhobi ka kutta.....I am 18 i can do what I want, parents cant touch me, i can stay out late night, drugs, drinks etc is culture with the dress code.

This is what is 5th ......10th gen warfare....disintegrate the family structure and values.....we have plenty roshan khayal and liberals who do not like nothing of their roots and wants to be katha angraiz.....

all roshan khayals can use their intellectual powers to chitrol me.....shaitan has taken over...and almost impossible to change......

jis thali mae khya, jin logoon ne apni khahishat / zaroriyaat sacrifice kar kay sab diya un pe hi bhonko.....do your job....master will be happy to see results of his efforts paying off....

I apologize in advance for hurting anybody;s sensitive feelings.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

New Gen/Children think this way when too much western influence makes them dhobi ka kutta.....I am 18 i can do what I want, parents cant touch me, i can stay out late night, drugs, drinks etc is culture with the dress code.

This is what is 5th ......10th gen warfare....disintegrate the family structure and values.....we have plenty roshan khayal and liberals who do not like nothing of their roots and wants to be katha angraiz.....

all roshan khayals can use their intellectual powers to chitrol me.....shaitan has taken over...and almost impossible to change......

jis thali mae khya, jin logoon ne apni khahishat / zaroriyaat sacrifice kar kay sab diya un pe hi bhonko.....do your job....master will be happy to see results of his efforts paying off....

I apologize in advance for hurting anybody;s sensitive feelings.

You're right. The sheer apathy of diaspora Pakistanis towards Pakistan and its positive values is depressing. People in the west become self-centred very quickly. However I would proffer that this is at least partly due to the nature of the environment here, as I see the exact same phenomenon among individuals born and raised in Pakistan but who migrated here in adult life. It's not just a 3rd or 4th gen+ thing.

 

[Yankee-stani]

New Gen/Children think this way when too much western influence makes them dhobi ka kutta.....I am 18 i can do what I want, parents cant touch me, i can stay out late night, drugs, drinks etc is culture with the dress code.

This is what is 5th ......10th gen warfare....disintegrate the family structure and values.....we have plenty roshan khayal and liberals who do not like nothing of their roots and wants to be katha angraiz.....

all roshan khayals can use their intellectual powers to chitrol me.....shaitan has taken over...and almost impossible to change......

jis thali mae khya, jin logoon ne apni khahishat / zaroriyaat sacrifice kar kay sab diya un pe hi bhonko.....do your job....master will be happy to see results of his efforts paying off....

I apologize in advance for hurting anybody;s sensitive feelings.

I dont think you understand what I was implying we are talking folks who follow the rules of the family but their family members continue to abuse them and to take advantage of them

 

[undercover JIX]

You're right. The sheer apathy of diaspora Pakistanis towards Pakistan and its positive values is depressing. People in the west become self-centred very quickly. However I would proffer that this is at least partly due to the nature of the environment here, as I see the exact same phenomenon among individuals born and raised in Pakistan but who migrated here in adult life. It's not just a 3rd or 4th gen+ thing.

mostly I see this behaviour in people who were teens .....early 1990s onwards etc....media, Internet etc played a big role....and this is even present in the people who born, bread and may be will die in Pakistan as well....gets worst if they move out.

I could be wrong, I am in qaid e ba mushaqqat ...

 

[Yankee-stani]

You're right. The sheer apathy of diaspora Pakistanis towards Pakistan and its positive values is depressing. People in the west become self-centred very quickly. However I would proffer that this is at least partly due to the nature of the environment here, as I see the exact same phenomenon among individuals born and raised in Pakistan but who migrated here in adult life. It's not just a 3rd or 4th gen+ thing.

You know what causes that Dumb Pakistani parents who think they can spoonfeed their views on everything on their kids and treat them like dirt

 

[undercover JIX]

I dont think you understand what I was implying we are talking folks who follow the rules of the family but their family members continue to abuse them and to take advantage of them

sorry.

if I follow all the rules and shows respect then only MAD parents will abuse me. something is missing here.
to action, there is a reaction, if I do not like a reaction then I should revisit my actions to see what causing that reaction.

nothing happens without a reason in this universe.

I am sorry,
dil ki bharas nikal raha hoon yaar, when I was young I disrespected my parents as well, when I am older now...and look at everything as a neutral person......I only see my mistakes....

You know what causes that Dumb Pakistani parents who think they can spoonfeed their views on everything on their kids and treat them like dirt

no matter what, calling your parents dumb is not appreciated in any civilized society /culture.

 

[Great Janjua]

Yes so many hoes running about on the streets at night showing their tits off whilst the boys are busy selling drugs and indulging in wrong activities.If their parents had slapped them whilst they were young this woudnt happen.Respecting your elders is a must even if they slap you it's for a good reason mate dont know why so many people on this forum think it's cool to argue back with their elders

 

[StormBreaker]

Thanks for highlighting.
Most illiterate and corrupt generation is that of the parents and grandparents at the moment.

Talk of grandparents, they are very backwards in terms of norms. They believe that their so-called rasm o riwaj are equal to that of religion, generalize it to religion.

Secondly, very ill judging mind they possess, every second person is “ghatia” “kharab tarbiat”.
They have this insect inside them of promoting old jihalat quotes, thoughts into new generation. For example “Baray kaha karte the ke ye sehat ke liye sahi nai hai” like who the hell were those baray ? So Having a higher age automatically promotes even the most illiterate, stupid and common sense-less talks person into a high regarded and important refer-to element.

This is where it is wrong, umar pe ghuroor.

I am sure, many of the PDF guys here, not much old but definitely are MORE in terms of knowledge and understanding THAN THEIR PARENTS due to you all actively engaging in different convos with like minded people.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Thanks for highlighting.
Most illiterate and corrupt generation is that of the parents and grandparents at the moment.

Talk of grandparents, they are very backwards in terms of norms. They believe that their so-called rasm o riwaj are equal to that of religion, generalize it to religion.

Secondly, very ill judging mind they possess, every second person is “ghatia” “kharab tarbiat”.
They have this insect inside them of promoting old jihalat quotes, thoughts into new generation. For example “Baray kaha karte the ke ye sehat ke liye sahi nai hai” like who the hell were those baray ? So Having a higher age automatically promotes even the most illiterate, stupid and common sense-less talks person into a high regarded and important refer-to element.

This is where it is wrong, umar pe ghuroor.

I am sure, many of the PDF guys here, not much old but definitely are MORE in terms of knowledge and understanding THAN THEIR PARENTS due to you all actively engaging in different convos with like minded people.

Exactly the problem is much like the same abroad its very close to "baby boomer" meme here in the US and West in which they claim the Young gen is spoiled but its the opposite as usual young folks dont know crap I agree I myself as well but the old gen in the diaspora has to make the kid feel their boss and their worker relationship everything from what they study in school to freaking marriage partner is decided by the old gen thankfully thats slowly changing and its not about westernization of course the "bootlickers" here will always make hypocritical judgements but even if you follow the rules there is still lack of trust if they are so concerned about "ebil westernization" why move to the west in the first place

Yes so many hoes running about on the streets at night showing their tits off whilst the boys are busy selling drugs and indulging in wrong activities.If their parents had slapped them whilst they were young this woudnt happen.Respecting your elders is a must even if they slap you it's for a good reason mate dont know why so many people on this forum think it's cool to argue back with their elders

Tell that to all ISIS fighters and folks who became gangsters too

 

[Great Janjua]

Exactly the problem is much like the same abroad its very close to "baby boomer" meme here in the US and West in which they claim the Young gen is spoiled but its the opposite as usual young folks dont know crap I agree I myself as well but the old gen in the diaspora has to make the kid feel their boss and their worker relationship everything from what they study in school to freaking marriage partner is decided by the old gen thankfully thats slowly changing and its not about westernization of course the "bootlickers" here will always make hypocritical judgements but even if you follow the rules there is still lack of trust if they are so concerned about "ebil westernization" why move to the west in the first place



Tell that to all ISIS fighters and folks who became gangsters too

This is the most retarded thread I have come across another young THUG wannabe who hates his grandad for telling him the truth.

 

[undercover JIX]

@OsmanAli98 I think, I understand your problem,
You do not want to join your father in his business etc. and on the other hand struggling on your own. when your father sees you in this situation and on top of that your unwillingness to join/takeover what he build with is hard work....he goes out of control.

He just want to see you takeover from him (under his supervision) and carry his business stuff to new heights, but he sees no hope and he is worried about your and his things future after he dies.

try to make a some sort of deal with him, show some interest with him and continue working on your dreams as well.

use your abilities smartly and try to manage both side.

you are still living with your father but its always a war like situation. you can little compromise and make both parties happy or move out and prove yourself and become better then him within his life time.

Show him, you do not need him, his money, his business, is roof etc. and more importantly his stupid nagging and advice.

once he sees you successful and better than him, he will will be a different person. fathers needs to their sons/daughter doing better then him and feel proud.

if situations presented are not similar to yours, do not take it to heart, just general advises/ suggestions.

This is the most retarded thread I have come across another young THUG wannabe who hates his grandad for telling him the truth.

I am educated and have all the media and Internet to know what is best, all this was made available to me by my Paindo dumb stupid parents. I do not need an old paindo person telling me what to do. I born, grew up and reach to this stage on my own, whatever parents did for me that was their responsibility, I have none, I can do whatever and however I want. When my children grow up I want them to be more aqalmand than me and treat me as upgraded version of how I treat my parents.

 

[StormBreaker]

On the contrary, i would as well like to say this, No matter what, parents are mostly right at advising kids unless they have their own egos getting in between justice and wrong.

However, parents of this age, too busy, blind, as a result, their “andha bharosa” wala bacha becomes playboy/hoe, nashai, useless, mannerless.

Thanks for highlighting.
Most illiterate and corrupt generation is that of the parents and grandparents at the moment.

Talk of grandparents, they are very backwards in terms of norms. They believe that their so-called rasm o riwaj are equal to that of religion, generalize it to religion.

Secondly, very ill judging mind they possess, every second person is “ghatia” “kharab tarbiat”.
They have this insect inside them of promoting old jihalat quotes, thoughts into new generation. For example “Baray kaha karte the ke ye sehat ke liye sahi nai hai” like who the hell were those baray ? So Having a higher age automatically promotes even the most illiterate, stupid and common sense-less talks person into a high regarded and important refer-to element.

This is where it is wrong, umar pe ghuroor.

I am sure, many of the PDF guys here, not much old but definitely are MORE in terms of knowledge and understanding THAN THEIR PARENTS due to you all actively engaging in different convos with like minded people.

@OsmanAli98 I think, I understand your problem,
You do not want to join your father in his business etc. and on the other hand struggling on your own. when your father sees you in this situation and on top of that your unwillingness to join/takeover what he build with is hard work....he goes out of control.

He just want to see you takeover from him (under his supervision) and carry his business stuff to new heights, but he sees no hope and he is worried about your and his things future after he dies.

try to make a some sort of deal with him, show some interest with him and continue working on your dreams as well.

use your abilities smartly and try to manage both side.

you are still living with your father but its always a war like situation. you can little compromise and make both parties happy or move out and prove yourself and become better then him within his life time.

Show him, you do not need him, his money, his business, is roof etc. and more importantly his stupid nagging and advice.

once he sees you successful and better than him, he will will be a different person. fathers needs to their sons/daughter doing better then him and feel proud.

if situations presented are not similar to yours, do not take it to heart, just general advises/ suggestions.


I am educated and have all the media and Internet to know what is best, all this was made available to me by my Paindo dumb stupid parents. I do not need and old paindo person telling them what to do. I born, grew up and reach to this stage on my own, whatever parents did for me that was their responsibility, I have none, I can do whatever and however I want. When my children grow up I want them to be more aqalmand than me and treat me as upgraded version of how I treat my parents.

Come on buddy, don’t at least say that for your parents regardless of what has been done.

As I occasionally mention here, people of Pakistan have very old version of IQ or brain code. They can’t seem to open the curtains to see the world in a wider scope. It’s not their fault to be restricted rather they are not AWARE.

Just like you go to an aborigin, he would be amazed to see a mobile/bulb, same is the case here.