The US Air Force just made a huge show in the South China Sea with 3 nuclear-capable bombers

[IceCold]

Yeah...As if YOU speak from personal experience planning heavy bomber missions.

The B-52 does not need to enter Chinese airspace to attack China.

http://www.popsci.com/new-missile-for-old-bombers

The B-1 is the F-111's bigger brother and the Soviets were always nervous about the F-111. The B-1 can fly lower than mountain tops at high subsonic, rendering most air defense radars helpless.

As for the B-2, the Chinese air defense crews will just have to wonder.

No one have any credible defense against these three.

Save the false bravado for something else. What do you think will the PLAAF be doing? Allowing your bombers to have a field day. You are going against China not Afghanistan or Iraq. I stand by my assessment which is B-2 is the only bomber that poses a credible threat to China. Rest we will know once push comes to shove.

 

[T-Rex]

Actually...It is the other way around. We want to give China a hint of what WILL come her way if China chose the military path regarding the SCS.

But China is undeterred, it's clearly not working. What's your next move?

The B-1 is the F-111's bigger brother and the Soviets were always nervous about the F-111. The B-1 can fly lower than mountain tops at high subsonic, rendering most air defense radars helpless.

As for the B-2, the Chinese air defense crews will just have to wonder.

No one have any credible defense against these three.

What you have claimed is yet to be battle proven. Perhaps this is the reason why China is not afraid of your toys at all.

 

[TheTheoryOfMilitaryLogistics]

Guam is a national security threat for China. Clearly US is levereging on Guam for any Pacific Operation. In a potential conflict China should be able to take down Guam without losing much time. Does China have any countermeasures against Guam to efficiently deny entire base from operation?

DF-26,
reliable,cheap and efficient,
you are worth it.

 

[gambit]

But China is undeterred, it's clearly not working. What's your next move?

We have YET to show what we can do.

What you have claimed is yet to be battle proven. Perhaps this is the reason why China is not afraid of your toys at all.

Are you saying the B-52, B-1, and B-2 have never flown in combat ?

Nevertheless, it is the PLA that is not proven in battle and it is what it has that is -- toys.

Sorry, but UN peacekeeping missions does not cut it.

 

[gambit]

Save the false bravado for something else. What do you think will the PLAAF be doing? Allowing your bombers to have a field day. You are going against China not Afghanistan or Iraq.

Allowing ? Of course not. We fully expect the PLA to put up their best. As a USAF veteran, I have repeatedly demonstrated I have far more respected for the PLA than most people here. But no matter how much respect for the PLA I may have, I deal in hard facts and experience. Whether the PLAAF 'allows' US or not is irrelevant, as a USAF F-111 veteran, the premier penetrator of the Cold War, if we want to violate Chinese airspace, we WILL do so.

I stand by my assessment which is B-2 is the only bomber that poses a credible threat to China. Rest we will know once push comes to shove.

YOU ? Are we supposed to be impressed ? You have no idea what we can do in the air.

 

[Ind4Ever]

Save the false bravado for something else. What do you think will the PLAAF be doing? Allowing your bombers to have a field day. You are going against China not Afghanistan or Iraq. I stand by my assessment which is B-2 is the only bomber that poses a credible threat to China. Rest we will know once push comes to shove.

Common sense says when you go for bombing missions all accounts will be taken into. Including enemy anti aircraft missiles, radars, fighters etc. You guys speak as if Americans are foolish to have bombers in first place

 

[F-22Raptor]

All 3 bombers can launch cruise missiles from well outside China's ability to intercept them. They present a highly credible threat to Chinese forces in the region.

 

[bolo]

postering. boring. fight coward.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

China was undeterred with two aircraft battle groups dispatched into SCS, we will be scare of these bombers? indeed US just give a hint of what China should to place in SCS to counter this threat, more likely China will declare ADIZ to counter these bomber threat, . As a Vietnamese, please don't use the word "We hope", you don't represent American even if you live, that is not real American's hope but your Vietnamese wet dream.

This is bullshit. While the Chinese may be happy here to paddle on this narrative, but vast majority of people in America consider him to be an American. Even the people on Trump's side, are not all white supremacists.

 

[IceCold]

Common sense says when you go for bombing missions all accounts will be taken into. Including enemy anti aircraft missiles, radars, fighters etc. You guys speak as if Americans are foolish to have bombers in first place

Indians and common sense, come on now.
You think China has not made similar assessment and taken everything into account? Remember its the US which is attacking,a defending country has the advantage.

Allowing ? Of course not. We fully expect the PLA to put up their best. As a USAF veteran, I have repeatedly demonstrated I have far more respected for the PLA than most people here. But no matter how much respect for the PLA I may have, I deal in hard facts and experience. Whether the PLAAF 'allows' US or not is irrelevant, as a USAF F-111 veteran, the premier penetrator of the Cold War, if we want to violate Chinese airspace, we WILL do so.

Hard Facts? Where? When you say i this, i that, these are not facts rather ramblings of a delusional old fool. Tell me something when was the last time US went against a country the size of China and with almost equal number of resources to field?

YOU

? Are we supposed to be impressed ? You have no idea what we can do in the air.

Yes me. Whether you are impressed or not, do you think i care? Yes we have plenty of idea what US can do in the air specially against Iraq and Afghanistan however what the US will be able to do in the air against the likes of China or Russia for that matter is debatable. So let us agree to disagree. We will know once US muster ups the courage to actually put the theory of the likes of you to the test. Till than its all bravado and mine is bigger than yours.

 

[Lure]

They thought the ability of hitting targets with nukes is a national patent? If not, it that even news to anyone?

You're right. But recently there are a lot of reports about a possible China-US confrontation and for the first time US shows some nuclear muscle. Of course China has the means to retaliate. But even talking about such a thing was disturbing. That's why I was so frank about the possible message the way I percieved it. I hope you're right.

Perhaps more like a good show of "your tax monies are well spent, your share of public debts is justifiable" to home audience? Show producers are ... by the way who sell those jets?

Maybe. But I tought bombing the ME was their way of showing the audience how well they are spending the tax money. Then again, I hope you're right and it's just a cheap propaganda work.

 

[T-Rex]

We have YET to show what we can do.

And the world hasn't yet seen what the US can really do against China other than barking!

Are you saying the B-52, B-1, and B-2 have never flown in combat ?

Of course they have flown missions against Saddam's third class armed forces. It's as good as not flying any mission at all, don't you think so? These Yankees and their indian poodles on this forum are world class morons, they think China is Iraq. It's amazing!

 

[sohailbutt1987]

So US does not have the balls to fight China head on. All it can do is show off and bark!

 

[T-Rex]

So US does not have the balls to fight China head on. All it can do is show off and bark!

I think the Yankees know the consequence all too well!

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Guam is a national security threat for China. Clearly US is levereging on Guam for any Pacific Operation. In a potential conflict China should be able to take down Guam without losing much time. Does China have any countermeasures against Guam to efficiently deny entire base from operation?

I don't know the countermeasure but if we use American's word "Hit where they most hurt", only by exploit US strategic vulnerability then they will back down, it's up to Chinese military Generals and strategist to find the solution, I'm just a spectator.

All 3 bombers can launch cruise missiles from well outside China's ability to intercept them. They present a highly credible threat to Chinese forces in the region.

We don't have any concern of that, we will intercept these bombers for their own homeland...or maybe we don't even need too.

This is bullshit. While the Chinese may be happy here to paddle on this narrative, but vast majority of people in America consider him to be an American. Even the people on Trump's side, are not all white supremacists.

What bullsh1t you're talking, an obsessed Vietnam hide behind US flag so he can claim to have US strength when debating with us, it's rarely he defend he's beloved country as Vietnamese point view such as @Viet or @AViet but always invoking US military power to do this and do that to China , I don't see anything significant of what he said beside writing few page of text that people don't even border to read it.