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The rising cult of China experts
By Thorsten Pattberg

BEIJING - A couple of years ago I met a German man at Harvard who boasted about his political stipend, his up-coming talk in New York City, and how he worked hard on the liberalization of Tibet and the breaking-up of China. There are no human rights in China, he explained to me. I was impressed and reminded him that if he ever plotted this way against our German government he could be tried for treason. He left in contempt.

He isn't the only one. There is a cult of Western evangelists and self-righteous crusaders who are determined to dislodge non-Western nations and usurp their governments.

In China they act as if above the law. That's because they see the Chinese government as corrupt, non-elected, and communist, and thus illegitimate. So why care about what it says or stands for? Moreover, these evangelists believe Westerners can do whatever they want in China because America and the entire Western propaganda apparatus will bail them out should trouble arise.

These so-called China experts are now a political force in direct opposition to the Communist Party. They form clusters and networks, with a strong hierarchy and code of ethics: They reward their Twitter followers and lickspittles and praise each other's work, while policing social media and punishing "traitors" or "China apologists".

When Yang Rui, a CCTV news anchor, condemned the activities of foreigners in Beijing, his character was assassinated and internationally paraded by China experts as glaring example of what happens to any Chinese should he or she dare to look askance at them.

In the West, foreign extremist groups, left or right, are monitored and tightly controlled. But no-one controls these Western imperialists. Germans finance Xinjiang separatists, Americans finance Taiwan separatists, British finance Tibetan separatist. US journalism even dispatches tactical troops to Hong Kong determined on bringing down Xi Jinping, the president, and his family.

The hierarchy of China experts is this: At the top we find the philosophers and statesmen who set the stage and agenda for the universal ideology - exclusively serving Western interests. They always reside in the West, know little or nothing about China, and discuss China solely on Western terms. In the past there were the likes of Kant, Hegel, and Wilhelm II; today we have Henry "on China" Kissinger, Francis "End of History" Fukuyama, and Samuel "Clash of Civilizations" Huntington.

Next we have the journalists and editors, most of them white or accessory white, in key positions at the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Economist, and so on. Thanks to the Western planetary media monopoly, they have become the new global fascist elite. Their culture is narrowly interbred, and some personal relations border on the incestuous, so they float each other's boat and write almost identical muck-raking stories. Everyone in China knows who they are, and their China-bashing is green-lighting all of us to join the onslaught.

Most China experts are culturists down to the last fiber. They tolerate all races as long as they Westernize and speak English, but show utter disdain for all foreign words, concepts, and terminologies (language imperialism). They also prominently decide who - Chinese or foreigner- gets praised and who gets defamed, and - most importantly- what gets omitted in their China reports. Their own corrupt ways get omitted. Ask yourself, when was the last time you read a piece by a prominent Chinese (other than a dissident) in your nation's newspaper? You haven't. It is a tight Orwellian grip.

Last, we have legions of lesser, disposable China watchers. Few of them enjoy fat expat packages, bigwig relatives in the media, or peddling political influence. Unable to find proper jobs and secure a future in China - apart from becoming activists, bloggers, or English teachers- they are recruited easily and radicalize quickly. Everyone has met those frustrated Westerners who once believed in their entitlement, got disillusioned, and found a way to spend their days: to patronize and correct the Chinese.

China isn't the only victim. All other six non-Western civilizations are feeling the whip of Western imperialism. The West claims it is "universal" and that is does not (and cannot) take responsibility for any of its abusive individuals in foreign lands since they are all free agents. It's the same old excuse since the age of colonialism.

Taking part in the Western mission to civilize the East is highly spiritually rewarding. And what is political destabilization and social unrest but a sweet revenge for China's disregard for Western hegemony. Favorite targets are: corrupt officials, suppressed minorities, Han chauvinism and misogyny, demonstrations, currency manipulation, and censorship. It makes China experts feel good about themselves. They feel like social justice warriors. The problem: this is not their country, and their negativity is poisoning everything.

Thus, China experts are constantly on the look-out for Chinese stand-ins. Dissidents, pro-Western activists, any Wang who can waive the American flag. The collaborators are showered with media coverage, prizes, and stipends, visa, freedom awards, and even Nobel Peace prizes. This tactic didn't get unnoticed by the zhishi fenzi (intellectuals), a class who would do anything for Western media attention - like the artist who in May sliced himself and cut out his own rib for a "more open China".

If Beijing dares to protest, there will be ever harsher Western media campaigns: China is told it must not impede on Westerners' "freedom" to slowly destabilize the country from within: Censor them, and they will tattletale. Incarcerate them, and they will become martyrs. Ignore them at your own peril.


Thorsten J Pattberg is a German writer and cultural critic. He is the author of The East-West Dichotomy, Shengren, and Inside Peking University.
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Thank you to DopplerEffect at Chinese Defence Forum for the original post

Your opinion, sirs? What China should do? Does it fail to track, monitor, and persecute those ideological terrorists inside China? @Genesis , @Edison Chen , @Chinese-Dragon , @tranquilium , @cnleio , @senheiser , @Beidou2020 , @Raphael , @xunzi , @beijingwalker , @terranMarine et al.
 
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Monitor their activities or just deny them entry to the country. Any country can deny entry to foreigner without reason.
But Cpc officials are too corrupt or maybe too scare to do so. They have too much money hidden in western countries.

Or draft new laws that inciting separatist activities is treasonous.
Deny foreign press from operating in China.
Kick out ngo.
 
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But Cpc officials are too corrupt or maybe too scare to do so. They have too much money hidden in western countries.

No.

Don't you remember the British Prime Minister went to China multiple times to plead for the life of a British man who broke Chinese laws on drugs?

How many times did he plead to stop the execution? And in the end, the British guy was executed. Even the repeated pleading from the British Prime Minister himself did not postpone it for a second.
 
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Monitor their activities or just deny them entry to the country. Any country can deny entry to foreigner without reason.
But Cpc officials are too corrupt or maybe too scare to do so. They have too much money hidden in western countries.

Or draft new laws that inciting separatist activities is treasonous.
Deny foreign press from operating in China.
Kick out ngo.
why do that? That's a defeatist attitude, man. Don't kick them out, destroy them with our achievements and make them watch.
 
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why do that? That's a defeatist attitude, man. Don't kick them out, destroy them with our achievements and make them watch.
You cannot underestimate the psychological power these guys have on the ordinary morons. best to kick them out.
 
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why do that? That's a defeatist attitude, man. Don't kick them out, destroy them with our achievements and make them watch.

Why not deport and never let them in again? Especially those that flood Chinese internet with anti-China hate speech are low-lives that have little chance in their own societies; once they are deported, they are no bodies in their country. Why keep these leeches? They contribute nothing to the country, and you can see they show their ugly heads everywhere, including Global Times comment section.

I agree with @terranMarine , eliminate those masterminds nested in China, and deport the low-lives after confiscating all their belongings and wealth they accumulated, if any, in China. Send them back home penniless.
 
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Unable to find proper jobs and secure a future in China - apart from becoming activists, bloggers, or English teachers- they are recruited easily and radicalize quickly. Everyone has met those frustrated Westerners who once believed in their entitlement, got disillusioned, and found a way to spend their days: to patronize and correct the Chinese.

I really hate those education instituations that recruit English teachers without any restrictions or background check, and usually those people are either spies or losers from their home countries. We should be more vigilant. Severe scrutinization on those guys please.
 
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Deport them. It doesn't matter if they are the chief reporter for the New York Times or some sexpat English teacher who runs a two-bit blog. If they spread propaganda that incites others to terrorism, then they are terrorism supporters, terrorism enablers, terrorism apologists, terrorism advocates, and they should be dealt with under the appropriate terrorism laws.
 
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Why not deport and never let them in again? Especially those that flood Chinese internet with anti-China hate speech are low-lives that have little chance in their own societies; once they are deported, they are no bodies in their country. Why keep these leeches? They contribute nothing to the country, and you can see they show their ugly heads everywhere, including Global Times comment section.

I agree with @terranMarine , eliminate those masterminds nested in China, and deport the low-lives after confiscating all their belongings and wealth they accumulated, if any, in China. Send them back home penniless.
I really hate those education instituations that recruit English teachers without any restrictions or background check, and usually those people are either spies or losers from their home countries. We should be more vigilant. Severe scrutinization on those guys please.
Deport them. It doesn't matter if they are the chief reporter for the New York Times or some sexpat English teacher who runs a two-bit blog. If they spread propaganda that incites others to terrorism, then they are terrorism supporters, terrorism enablers, terrorism apologists, terrorism advocates, and they should be dealt with under the appropriate terrorism laws.

You know what I like most of all, winning. It's not any monetary gains, the glory that's interesting, it's the winning part.

I don't care what these guys in china think they can do, and it doesn't really matter. They can do as they wish and it's better if they do.

NY times, whatever, stay and spread their stories, it's not entirely false, but it's not enough. what they say is questionable, the achievements on the ground isn't, it's real and it's tangible.

Deporting them is boring, the hunt is the fun, you don't need a fox on the wall, you need the thrill of making that fox run, and in the end, it's not going to change a damn thing, and make sure they know it.

When we win and we will win, they will eat their words. China not becoming Gordon Chang's dream and becoming better isn't shit to me, it's the fun of watching that bastard getting humiliated again and again, that's the fun part.
 
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Some facts that corrupt, non-elected in China are true.It's also true that many local governments,which are away from centre gov 's management and supervision,corrupt,squeeze the people and abuse of undue autority,too.
As a common Chinese,I think our government is good in generally speaking.But it doesn't means she has done a best.Criticism benefits us.
So,if some western medias report unfair news about China,we just need to shrug shoulder and smile to say "welcome to China,you will see the truth about what we are doing".
There is no doubt that different ideology or political interest make evil power embellish or twist the truth and even want to overturn our government.And we can throw them away by our defence force.
China's dream is to develop a civilized,democratic,collectively prosperous and strong country,not a closed,lofty or antiforeign empire.
 
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Some facts that corrupt, non-elected in China are true.It's also true that many local governments,which are away from centre gov 's management and supervision,corrupt,squeeze the people and abuse of undue autority,too.
As a common Chinese,I think our government is good in generally speaking.But it doesn't means she has done a best.Criticism benefits us.
So,if some western medias report unfair news about China,we just need to shrug shoulder and smile to say "welcome to China,you will see the truth about what we are doing".
There is no doubt that different ideology or political interest make evil power embellish or twist the truth and even want to overturn our government.And we can throw them away by our defence force.
China's dream is to develop a civilized,democratic,collectively prosperous and strong country,not a closed,lofty or antiforeign empire.

You know what I like most of all, winning. It's not any monetary gains, the glory that's interesting, it's the winning part.

I don't care what these guys in china think they can do, and it doesn't really matter. They can do as they wish and it's better if they do.

NY times, whatever, stay and spread their stories, it's not entirely false, but it's not enough. what they say is questionable, the achievements on the ground isn't, it's real and it's tangible.

Deporting them is boring, the hunt is the fun, you don't need a fox on the wall, you need the thrill of making that fox run, and in the end, it's not going to change a damn thing, and make sure they know it.

When we win and we will win, they will eat their words. China not becoming Gordon Chang's dream and becoming better isn't shit to me, it's the fun of watching that bastard getting humiliated again and again, that's the fun part.


Criticism is acceptable from whomever it may come. China may even capitalize on them; that is, the outsider's point of view.

But inciting hatred, separatism, and terrorism is not acceptable. Those people should be tracked, monitored and executed under the law, be it deportation or prison term.

No country, however benevolent, self-critique, or proud they may be, will tolerate such activity. Why should China?
 
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Criticism is acceptable from whomever it may come. China may even capitalize on them; that is, the outsider's point of view.

But inciting hatred, separatism, and terrorism is not acceptable. Those people should be tracked, monitored and executed under the law, be it deportation or prison term.

No country, however benevolent, self-critique, or proud they may be, will tolerate such activity. Why should China?

True. That's why the US has NSA and the Patriot Act.

Can you make a list of PDF members that you suspect are western China expert? I will keep an eye on them and help you neutralise their propaganda.
 
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We all know about the quality of these so-called experts long time ago. As long as they still talk about the coming collapse of China, or any country which are not in Western embrace, they are "experts" and praised.
 
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