The reason behind Pakistan's creation - according to its "creators"

[Karachiite]

Tell me HOW ?

If you say two nations theory failed after 71, that means there were NOT 2 nations in the subcontinent.
which would imply that Bangladesh went back and became an Indian province.

Did that happen ? NO !

Look at the map today, all what it shows is that there are not two, but THREE nations in the subcontinent.

So stop harping this stupid phrase from your aunt Indira.

Lol come back and talk after your done skimming Two Nation Theory from wikipedia.

If you Mohajirs want to go back to hindustan, you are free to go but Pak Sarzameen will always stay with Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Notice its only Mohajirs who speak against the two nation theory and want to be indian. Arey bhaiyah phir tum kyoun Pakistan ayeh? hindustan mein reh thay.

Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, Kybher Pakhtunkhwa all decided in a referendum to be part of Pakistan and our land's history has always been distinct from what is now india. Bengal was thousands of miles away from us and surrounded by hindustan on all 4 corners and they have more in common with hindustanis than Pakistanis, even today their women wear sarees and red dots on their forehead.

An by the way, Karachi will always stay part of Sindh province....no more Jinnahpur propaganda. If you want to go back to india like your leader altaf begs india to take him back then go, but all of Pakistan, including Karachi, will always stay part of Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

I'll move back to India after you permanently move to Saudi Arabia.

 

[Areesh]

Dear Karachite, ideologies and people are two different things. Failure of some people in understanding and implementing ideology is not necessary failure of ideology. Truth is not measured by numbers but by weight of evidence. So long as islamic principles stand solid, islam is true and so long as muslims understand islam properly and practice it they are doing fine even if their number is not great. Teacher is only one even though he surrounded by many pupils.

People attack two nation theory without knowing what it is about. It is about islam and humanity not at all just about islam and pakistan. pakistan was just a part of scheme and it has survived for a few generations now against all odds just as it was created against all odds.

Even if people break up a bigger country, in a biased capitalist or market economy what chance is there for smaller nations to survive? Something that people need to think about who are interested in breaking up of pakistan. One has to see youtube videos as to what is happening to muslim minorities throughout the world. Grass looks green on the other side but wait till you get there.

How hindus treat hindus in india should not be forgotten and if that is true then how would they treat nonhindu minorities? Again see videos about christians and muslims who are suffering in india.

The partition of india was not just for sake of it but that muslims suffered there otherwise why would they support creation of pakistan? If secularism was the demand then why would the creators of pakistan create pakistan when after all india accepted secular democracy and western economic system?

So you may be better off with the devil you know than the devil you don't know.

regards and all the best.

In the midst of BS and cr@p only sane post on this thread.

 

[Mughal1]

No, the theory failed because 1971 proved that religion is not enough for a nation, as two nation theory advocated religion based nations, specifically for muslims, hence it failed.

Surely the two nation theory did not have as goal the petty idea of just staying away from evil hindus at any cost, because that had failed in 1947 itself when 1/3rd muslims rejected it. Surely the idea was that muslims away from hindus will stay together happily and prosper, that miserably failed in 1971, unfortunately that experiment cost too much life, million in 1947 and debatable but far too many in 1971 and thousands in Karachi even today...

so much cost, just for dividing the muslims of sub continent into three parts...

Dear fateh, could you please explain difference between religion and islam?

Thanks.

 

[Sinnerman108]

The two nation theory failed twice. The theory was suppose provide a state for Muslims. but It failed first in 1947, when Muslims chose to stay in India. And again in 1971 with the independence of Bangladesh.

So if Muslims wanted to stay in a state, all Muslims should have gone to Pakistan, which didn't happen. moreover the independence of Bangladesh shouldn't have occurred. Therefore, this theory is a biggest blunder.

There are Muslims in India ? when did that happen ?

People were given a choice, Religion or Wealth.
Those which choose religion migrated, rest stayed where they were either because they were too weak or had other things more dear to them than religion.

 

[Sinnerman108]

No, the theory failed because 1971 proved that religion is not enough for a nation, as two nation theory advocated religion based nations, specifically for muslims, hence it failed.

Surely the two nation theory did not have as goal the petty idea of just staying away from evil hindus at any cost, because that had failed in 1947 itself when 1/3rd muslims rejected it. Surely the idea was that muslims away from hindus will stay together happily and prosper, that miserably failed in 1971, unfortunately that experiment cost too much life, million in 1947 and debatable but far too many in 1971 and thousands in Karachi even today...

so much cost, just for dividing the muslims of sub continent into three parts...

I suggest you again read what I said before.
Bangladesh did not go back and become an Indian province IN SPITE of cultural and linguistic similarities with west Bengal.
This means TWO nations exist.
What you are saying means that there were not just TWO but more than two nations (3).

Although religion provided the basis of nation, however economics and logistics had to provide for sustainable country.

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Lol come back and talk after your done skimming Two Nation Theory from wikipedia.



I'll move back to India after you permanently move to Saudi Arabia.

Huh !
I know boys like yourself go through this tense phase.
Try reading Iqbal the master mind of the two nation theory and see if you can tell the difference.

 

[Fracker]

Two nation theory failed not because Pakistan was created or divided into two state in 1971. But since, the theory were not followed from the start. and when Pakistan became republic of Pakistan (Adding Islamic before didn't change anything in 1972).

I really feel bad now, since i know the Quaid who died just after pakistan birth, couldn't tell what exactly "Two Nation Theory" meant to him and the people, who left everything in Pakistan and India just for this Theory.

 

[Zarvan]

The two nation theory failed after East Pakistan became independent. Countries made out of religion never work, no wonder even after 64 years Pakistanis are still struggling to come up with an identity. Can't believe the divide and rule policy of the British worked so easily in South Asia. Try to think of Pakistan first and then maybe Pakistan might do a little better.

Mr Two nation theory didn't failed and it never will because it is a fact written in Quran and hadees secondly Bangal got separated because kafir created confusion about this theory and we are fighting each other in karachi because we forgot this theory and Sir Muslims is always Muslims first or he is not Muslim

 

[Ahmad]

Mr Two nation theory didn't failed and it never will because it is a fact written in Quran and hadees secondly Bangal got separated because kafir created confusion about this theory and we are fighting each other in karachi because we forgot this theory and Sir Muslims is always Muslims first or he is not Muslim

how was it written in the quran?

 

[Zarvan]

how was it written in the quran?

because all the points which are in Two nation theory are based on Quran and Sunnah this is in fact two religion theory not two nation theory because all the points which are said in two nation theory are differences because of Religion not nation

 

[Ahmad]

because all the points which are in Two nation theory are based on Quran and Sunnah this is in fact two religion theory not two nation theory because all the points which are said in two nation theory are differences because of Religion not nation

can you describe to me what you tring to say in a very simple langauge? and tell me which part of the quran say such a thing?

 

[Zarvan]

can you describe to me what you tring to say in a very simple langauge? and tell me which part of the quran say such a thing?

Mr we eat cow because our Religion allows it but hinduism don't allow it our heros are all those who we think fought for Islam and most of them fought against followers of hinduism our celebrations are different their are different and we are not allow to participate in them and most of our differences with them are because those things which Islam allows us they are not allowed and things which they are allowed many of them are not allowed to us

 

[Ahmad]

Mr we eat cow because our Religion allows it but hinduism don't allow it our heros are all those who we think fought for Islam and most of them fought against followers of hinduism our celebrations are different their are different and we are not allow to participate in them and most of our differences with them are because those things which Islam allows us they are not allowed and things which they are allowed many of them are not allowed to us

This is was a ridiculous reply. Let me say somethig, we in Afghanistan have a differnet new year than pakistan, we eat Samanak(a kind of food), but you dont, we celebrate Nowrooz, but you dont, we have totally differnt heros than yours, and many more things, what can you say about that? i asked you to give the quraic evidence for you claim?

 

[Zarvan]

This is was a ridiculous reply. Let me say somethig, we in Afghanistan have a differnet new year than pakistan, we eat Samanak(a kind of food), but you dont, we celebrate Nowrooz, but you dont, we have totally differnt heros than yours, and many more things, what can you say about that? i asked you to give the quraic evidence for you claim?

Mr read Quran you will know some things are not always direct some are indirect Mr Nowrooz has nothing to do with Islam if you follow KAfirs things its your problem we will only tell you that is it Islamic or not Quran Mr if you read two nation theory and than read quran you will know what I am say or other wise you will keep asking me Ridiculous questions

 

[Ahmad]

Mr read Quran you will know some things are not always direct some are indirect Mr Nowrooz has nothing to do with Islam if you follow KAfirs things its your problem we will only tell you that is it Islamic or not Quran Mr if you read two nation theory and than read quran you will know what I am say or other wise you will keep asking me Ridiculous questions

Nowrooz is not the kafir thing, it is our tradition for thousands of years, it is not religious but we celebrate the coming of spring with nowrooz, unlike you guys, we in afghanistan, iran, tajikistan, samarqand and bukhara are pround of our past and dont deny it, we are muslims but our tradtion and language is very dear for us. the taliban tried hard to bar people adn even forecd them, but it diditn work. Now, i am asking you again to provide the quranic proof about 2 nation theory, and dont tell me to read the whole quran as i cant do it right now.

 

[Don Jaguar]

there are more muslims in india more than the whole poupulation of pakistan.

This is because pakistan split into two pieces other wise we were the majority!!!