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The REAL civilizational 'game of statues' playing out in Bharat now..

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Let's begin with the lefty narrative, read on.

Giant statues of Hindu gods and leaders are making Muslims in India nervous

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Statues – big statues, the largest in the world – are being built all across India.

Like many public monuments, they attempt to convey history in a concrete form. But India’s new statues convey something else, too: the power and vision of one dominant group – and the vulnerability of others.

That’s because India’s biggest new public monuments all pay tribute to Hindu gods and leaders.


As a scholar of social change in India, I see statues as a projection of a nation’s values at a particular moment in time. For many Muslims and other religious minorities, then, these hulking public monuments of Hindu icons send an ominous message about their status in society.

Rising Hindu nationalism
The mammoth public shrines to Hindu nationalism are a pet project of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his right-wing Bharatiya Janata Party.

Since taking office in 2014, Modi has used his power to promote Hindu nationalism, a polarizing ideology that sees Hindus as India’s dominant group. Yet India is a constitutionally multicultural country with the world’s second largest population of Muslims – comprising over 170 million people.

Twenty percent of its 1.3 billion people are Muslim, Christian or another religion.

By 2021 India, which is already home to the tallest statue in the world – Gujarat state’s 597-foot-tall “Statue of Unity,” commemorating Indian independence hero Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel – plans to unveil two more record-breaking monuments, both portraying icons idolized by Hindu rightists.


A 725-foot bronze likeness of the god Ram planned for Uttar Pradesh state will soon surpass the Statue of Unity in size. And in Mumbai construction has been halted on a 695-foot-tall likeness of the medieval Hindu warrior Shivaji, pending the results of an environmental review.

Guinness World Records also recently judged Tamil Nadu state’s 112-foot depiction of the face of the Hindu god Shiva as the world’s largest bust statue.

All this is happening under Modi, who is up for re-election in monthlong general elections that start on April 11.

He was voted into office in 2014 on a platform of “development for all.” Promising to boost the economy in a country where nearly 22% of people live in poverty and millions go hungry, Modi and the BJP won an historic parliamentary majority over the center-left Indian National Congress, its main competitor.

Since then, India has improved in international “ease of doing business” rankings, passing regulations that improve commerce and the protection of property rights.

But some of Modi’s boldest moves to improve cash flow and boost public revenues, including a 2017 tax reform initiative and a ban on saving in certain high-value currencies, have failed. Unemployment has risen under BJP rule, particularly in rural areas, and the national economy suffered during the “demonetization” process.


Over the last five years, under Modi’s administration, India has also seen a startling rise of Hindu vigilante violence.

..read the rest here.



India Is Changing Some Cities' Names, And Muslims Fear Their Heritage Is Being Erased

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The name of India's Mughalsarai railway station, near Varanasi, was changed last year to Deen Dayal Upadhyaya, for a right-wing Hindu leader who died there in 1968.

Dhiraj Singh/Bloomberg via Getty Images


Tens of millions of Hindus took a ritual dip in the Ganges River this winter as part of the largest religious festival in the world — the Kumbh Mela. For centuries, the festival has been held in various cities in northern India, including Allahabad.

But when pilgrims arrived this year for the Kumbh Mela, Allahabad had a different name.

Last year, officials from Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party changed the name of Allahabad to Prayagraj — a word that references the Hindu pilgrimage site there. The name Allahabad dated to the 16th century, a legacy of a Muslim ruler, the Mughal Emperor Akbar. "Today, the BJP government has rectified the mistake made by Akbar," a BJP official was quoted as saying when the name was altered.

read the rest here.

The right wing rebuttal:


Notice how both the left and right wing perspectives presented here skirt the real cultural WAR.

exhibit A:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirk_(Islam)


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The statue/Idol thing is a direct civilizational gauntlet throwdown challenging the ideology of Islam.

discuss...
 
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Yes make more statues, statues of all hindu gods. Keep it up, don't listen to these libtardu types. Congress lost and now they are all salty, modi jindabad, keep it up modi. :-)
 
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Why are statues scaring Muslims??? Makes no sense! They already know they live is Hindu fundamentalist nation.

Yes make more statues, statues of all hindu gods. Keep it up, don't listen to these libtardu types. Congress lost and now they are all salty, modi jindabad, keep it up modi. :-)

I agree with this... Jai RSS!
 
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When Muslims live in a sense that they are fully protected in their country, they nurture liberal values. Advent of foreign invasion and where their sense of protection is gone, they find solace in conservative values. In BD the conservative ones arent entertained. People specially Dhakaites, like to visit temples in large number, statues arent feared, as long as it doesnt look like shoved. But in India the conservative ones flourished. And they got support by the secular liberals, that antagonized the conservative Hindus. In ideal situation the secular liberals should have worked for upliftment of both the societies. But that didnt happen. In absence of upliftment of majority society, we see a rise of social chaos in that country; where majority plays the victim card. For example the liberals of India looks much posh. But the conservatives look insecured and uncultured. But Indian society isnt that bad altogether. When their sense of security is restored they will behave. From my interactions the uncultured ones are found in numbers in very few places for example faceless pdf, twitter and youtube spam boxes. But lately they are maturing with time. Better behaved than the 2014 ones.
 
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When Muslims live in a sense that they are fully protected in their country, they nurture liberal values. Advent of foreign invasion and where their sense of protection is gone, they find solace in conservative values. In BD the conservative ones arent entertained. People specially Dhakaites, like to visit temples in large number, statues arent feared, as long as it doesnt look like shoved. But in India the conservative ones flourished. And they got support by the secular liberals, that antagonized the conservative Hindus. In ideal situation the secular liberals should have worked for upliftment of both the societies. But that didnt happen. In absence of upliftment of majority society, we see a rise of social chaos in that country; where majority plays the victim card. For example the liberals of India looks much posh. But the conservatives look insecured and uncultured. But Indian society isnt that bad altogether. When their sense of security is restored they will behave. From my interactions the uncultured ones are found in numbers in very few places for example faceless pdf, twitter and youtube spam boxes. But lately they are maturing with time. Better behaved than the 2014 ones.

You have a very unfounded optimism about India and Hindu zealots.

I hope Modi fulfills all your expectations and more.
 
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More statues and murthis will not be able to save deviants from His wrath when the time comes.

It is a monumental waste of money as well.

Muslims should not be required to pay taxes in our country anymore. Why should we pay for Hindus/Sikhs' statues and stuff?
 
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The statue/Idol thing is a direct civilizational gauntlet throwdown challenging the ideology of Islam.

discuss...

Shirk is only for Muslims though. So Hindu idols are not in anyway related to Islam in any manner.

Also, two of the statues mentioned are humans, Patel and Shivaji, only one statue is for Lord Ram's. And this is meant to be in the birthplace of Ram, Ayodhya. Don't see why any Muslim will have a problem with that.

There is no civilisational clash. Just butthurt lefties with post-election blues.
 
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Imagine if some one wrote an articles how 'Burkhas & beards are making Hindus nervous'

Oh yeah, that would go down very well.
The utterly open Hinduphobic articles are now main stream.

And the Liberandus wonder why BJP is getting such brute majority with each passing election.

Even after getting so many middle fingers up their bung holes, the liberandus have not learnt their lessons.
hmm.....just a sneaky suspicion, may be the liberandus like fingers up their bung holes, can't rule this out.
 
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Wow. The mughals blessed your pathetic Hindutva nation with their presence and their architectural masterpieces, the British brought you structures of refined colonial elegance, and you get rid of them and finally get the chance to shine, and hey, you build colourful crap. However much cash you have to spend, you will insist on the right to produce crap. When you finally do get round to building ram's temple, I shudder to think what a crime against humanity its design will be, let alone talk of anything else.
 
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When Muslims live in a sense that they are fully protected in their country, they nurture liberal values. Advent of foreign invasion and where their sense of protection is gone, they find solace in conservative values. In BD the conservative ones arent entertained. People specially Dhakaites, like to visit temples in large number, statues arent feared, as long as it doesnt look like shoved. But in India the conservative ones flourished. And they got support by the secular liberals, that antagonized the conservative Hindus. In ideal situation the secular liberals should have worked for upliftment of both the societies. But that didnt happen. In absence of upliftment of majority society, we see a rise of social chaos in that country; where majority plays the victim card. For example the liberals of India looks much posh. But the conservatives look insecured and uncultured. But Indian society isnt that bad altogether. When their sense of security is restored they will behave. From my interactions the uncultured ones are found in numbers in very few places for example faceless pdf, twitter and youtube spam boxes. But lately they are maturing with time. Better behaved than the 2014 ones.

Yea dude...I think you have this whole thing wrong :lol:

Not every nation is the same...stop applying principles/theories that you see in BD to India...India is whole different ball game.

You come off as liberal and pro-Hassina guy that wants to get in bed with India.......correct assumption?

Wow. The mughals blessed your pathetic Hindutva nation with their presence and their architectural masterpieces, the British brought you structures of refined colonial elegance, and you get rid of them and finally get the chance to shine, and hey, you build colourful crap. However much cash you have to spend, you will insist on the right to produce crap. When you finally do get round to building ram's temple, I shudder to think what a crime against humanity its design will be, let alone talk of anything else.

You pretty much summed it up....the Mughals and the British held together the country...now left alone...they have descended back into their paganistic madness. Just continue watching the show with some popcorn and some self-defense tools incase they try to "export" some of that good stuff to Pakistan. ;)

On the case of the design of the statues....one word (or two?): completely horrible.
 
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Yea dude...I think you have this whole thing wrong :lol:

Not every nation is the same...stop applying principles/theories that you see in BD to India...India is whole different ball game.

You come off as liberal and pro-Hassina guy that wants to get in bed with India.......correct assumption?

Sorry I couldnt satisfy you :sick:
PDF will survive based on India hate, or Pakistan as a whole. I have disgust for Hasina and India as well. But what a man could wish more than the mitigation of social toxicity. A turmoiled India isnt good for BD but same cant be said about Pak. We have different needs. I'll wish that their present govt dont make mistake by marginalizing particular people, what I heard from people they wont. Lets agree that their past Govts werent that better to both sides (Pak/BD). When you are sitting on the bottom, only thing you can wish is go up :cheers:
 
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Sorry I couldnt satisfy you :sick:
PDF will survive based on India hate, or Pakistan as a whole. I have disgust for Hasina and India as well. But what a man could wish more than the mitigation of social toxicity. A turmoiled India isnt good for BD but same cant be said about Pak. We have different needs. I'll wish that their present govt dont make mistake by marginalizing particular people, what I heard from people they wont. Lets agree that their past Govts werent that better to both sides (Pak/BD). When you are sitting on the bottom, only thing you can wish is go up :cheers:

I agree on all points except for what you said about PDF's survival and the toxicity.

PDF is more than a India bashing site....who would not bash the current Modi run India?? I have no problems with Indians, actually, I even have some Indian friends and even some of them don't like the current politics of India...

PDF will survive and grow as it has for the past decade and more...with or without you. :enjoy:
 
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