The Plan ...

[OldTwilight]

well , From what I understand this is the new approach of the west and her allies in region ...

1- Destroy SAA and Iran military power in coming days and use Rebels in Idlib to take the country by continues air support from the coalition and Turkey/KSA/Jordan/UAE and divide Syria in smaller lands ( officially or un-officially ) ... If Russia agree to the coalition term , then they can keep their military for now or else they will suffer heavy causalities by terrorist which are newly reorganized and armed .... of curse Iran troops in Syria should be completely crushed and wipe out ...

2- after crushing SAA and Iran in Syria , Israel will begin war with Hezbollah but this time so called Syrian Rebels will also enter Lebanon to do man - to - man fight and USA/UK/France navy will help Israel or even directly strike hezbollah .... Hezbollah should be crushed in 2018 at any cost

3- Yemen , USA will directly lead the war in Yemen , and for this , they will make false flag of sinking a commercial cargo in Bab-Al-Mandab then they use it as an excuse to attack Yemen ... The man-to-man fight will be by Pakistanis in the name of Defending Holy Lands so the should be some failed attack to Mekka and Medina to justify Pakistan army intervene ...

4- Now , Its time for head of snake .... IRAN .... there is three possible route :

4-1 : If Iran accept to disarm herself in another JCPOA ( which reformist are calling for it ) then the normal procedure of Iran and Lybia scenario will repeat for Iran in next 3 years and then Iran should be divided to smaller country once for all ...

4-2 : If Iran dosn't accept to disarm herself , then even more tougher sanction will impose on Iran , the coalation will use reformist as opposition to force Islamic Republic to accept to The colation term , or else Turkey and Azerbaija will be the one who support and coordinate Turks seperatis , Kurdistan will be the one who support Kurd seperatist , KSA and Arab will be the one who Support Arab and Sunni Separatist and after 1-1.5 year chaos in Iran , a direct attack will finish Iran ...

5- After Iran , this scenario should be repeated for Turkey , Pakistan , KSA and Egypt ...

6- then Russia and China and India will be the next targets ...

the plan is just to achieve Great Middle-east grand strategy .... so The west won't abandon it at any cost because without GME plan , they can't go for stronger enemies like Russia and India and even Greater enemy like China ...

so , IMO we should stopped this in first phase .... and if I had power , I would throw all I could at Israel after attacking our Troops and wouldn't let the western to organize their force and coordinate their military wing in such dangerous manner ...

 

[Tps43]

well , From what I understand this is the new approach of the west and her allies in region ...

1- Destroy SAA and Iran military power in coming days and use Rebels in Idlib to take the country by continues air support from the coalition and Turkey/KSA/Jordan/UAE and divide Syria in smaller lands ( officially or un-officially ) ... If Russia agree to the coalition term , then they can keep their military for now or else they will suffer heavy causalities by terrorist which are newly reorganized and armed .... of curse Iran troops in Syria should be completely crushed and wipe out ...

2- after crushing SAA and Iran in Syria , Israel will begin war with Hezbollah but this time so called Syrian Rebels will also enter Lebanon to do man - to - man fight and USA/UK/France navy will help Israel or even directly strike hezbollah .... Hezbollah should be crushed in 2018 at any cost

3- Yemen , USA will directly lead the war in Yemen , and for this , they will make false flag of sinking a commercial cargo in Bab-Al-Mandab then they use it as an excuse to attack Yemen ... The man-to-man fight will be by Pakistanis in the name of Defending Holy Lands so the should be some failed attack to Mekka and Medina to justify Pakistan army intervene ...

4- Now , Its time for head of snake .... IRAN .... there is three possible route :

4-1 : If Iran accept to disarm herself in another JCPOA ( which reformist are calling for it ) then the normal procedure of Iran and Lybia scenario will repeat for Iran in next 3 years and then Iran should be divided to smaller country once for all ...

4-2 : If Iran dosn't accept to disarm herself , then even more tougher sanction will impose on Iran , the coalation will use reformist as opposition to force Islamic Republic to accept to The colation term , or else Turkey and Azerbaija will be the one who support and coordinate Turks seperatis , Kurdistan will be the one who support Kurd seperatist , KSA and Arab will be the one who Support Arab and Sunni Separatist and after 1-1.5 year chaos in Iran , a direct attack will finish Iran ...

5- After Iran , this scenario should be repeated for Turkey , Pakistan , KSA and Egypt ...

6- then Russia and China and India will be the next targets ...

the plan is just to achieve Great Middle-east grand strategy .... so The west won't abandon it at any cost because without GME plan , they can't go for stronger enemies like Russia and India and even Greater enemy like China ...

so , IMO we should stopped this in first phase .... and if I had power , I would throw all I could at Israel after attacking our Troops and wouldn't let the western to organize their force and coordinate their military wing in such dangerous manner ...

Dear Dont worry Trump is kouskish

 

[OldTwilight]

another counter measure to this plan is to knock some sense in Turkey , Pakistan and Russia head to not stay and let the western powers do as they like because after the Syria/Hezbollah/Yemen/Iran , they will be next targets ....

KSA And Arabs are hopless in general and they can't see grand picture in most of case ...

Dear Dont worry Trump is kouskish

Trump is not the one who make plan and is going to execute it .... in fact Trump is one our hope because if the old hag Hillary Clinton was in power , The western strategist could put their plan in the motion more smoothly ...

Trump and his Tweet are one of best things that exposing the western true intend ....

side note : look like KSA and UAE are the one who are going to pay the money for this Operation ....

 

[El Sidd]

Santas Plan

 

[OldTwilight]

Santas Plan

its sounds ridicules but millions of people died in first and second phase of this Great Middle East Strategy ( Iraq/Libya/Syria) ...
the strength of this plan is that so simple which if the first phase complete successfully , all other parts will follow in coming years ...

If Syria falls , Hezbollah will fall then Yemen will follow .... After Iran , Turkey , Pakistan , KSA and Egypt will follow then Russia , China and Inida ...

 

[Muhammed45]

well , From what I understand this is the new approach of the west and her allies in region ...

1- Destroy SAA and Iran military power in coming days and use Rebels in Idlib to take the country by continues air support from the coalition and Turkey/KSA/Jordan/UAE and divide Syria in smaller lands ( officially or un-officially ) ... If Russia agree to the coalition term , then they can keep their military for now or else they will suffer heavy causalities by terrorist which are newly reorganized and armed .... of curse Iran troops in Syria should be completely crushed and wipe out ...

2- after crushing SAA and Iran in Syria , Israel will begin war with Hezbollah but this time so called Syrian Rebels will also enter Lebanon to do man - to - man fight and USA/UK/France navy will help Israel or even directly strike hezbollah .... Hezbollah should be crushed in 2018 at any cost

3- Yemen , USA will directly lead the war in Yemen , and for this , they will make false flag of sinking a commercial cargo in Bab-Al-Mandab then they use it as an excuse to attack Yemen ... The man-to-man fight will be by Pakistanis in the name of Defending Holy Lands so the should be some failed attack to Mekka and Medina to justify Pakistan army intervene ...

4- Now , Its time for head of snake .... IRAN .... there is three possible route :

4-1 : If Iran accept to disarm herself in another JCPOA ( which reformist are calling for it ) then the normal procedure of Iran and Lybia scenario will repeat for Iran in next 3 years and then Iran should be divided to smaller country once for all ...

4-2 : If Iran dosn't accept to disarm herself , then even more tougher sanction will impose on Iran , the coalation will use reformist as opposition to force Islamic Republic to accept to The colation term , or else Turkey and Azerbaija will be the one who support and coordinate Turks seperatis , Kurdistan will be the one who support Kurd seperatist , KSA and Arab will be the one who Support Arab and Sunni Separatist and after 1-1.5 year chaos in Iran , a direct attack will finish Iran ...

5- After Iran , this scenario should be repeated for Turkey , Pakistan , KSA and Egypt ...

6- then Russia and China and India will be the next targets ...

the plan is just to achieve Great Middle-east grand strategy .... so The west won't abandon it at any cost because without GME plan , they can't go for stronger enemies like Russia and India and even Greater enemy like China ...

so , IMO we should stopped this in first phase .... and if I had power , I would throw all I could at Israel after attacking our Troops and wouldn't let the western to organize their force and coordinate their military wing in such dangerous manner ...

Bro, let me tell my own opinion about your numbered cases.
1 SAA is stronger than any time, we have agreement with Turkey and she cannot switch the side, for obvious reasons. Her economy is close to Iran and Russia, both are feeding turkey with petroleum so don't worry about them. At its worst Turkey will back groups In Idlib but not militarily only by some words. No one can crush russia, proves you know nothing about them.
2 Israel wanted to do it years ago but with Nasrallah threats to bomb nuclear sites of Israel and also the chemical storages of Haifa, they retreated and instead , Israelis armed terror groups. Afterwards, hezbollah destroyed all of terror groups by sending its soldiers to borders with Syria, Moreover, they started operations inside syria to stop isis and other terror groups. And Lebanon is safe more than any times.
3 USA is directly intervening In Yemen, not only Americans but naval vessels of UK and France are also helping blockade on Yemen. Yemen has overcome these challenges, and even better, they have sent plenty of warheads Into Riyadh, Abu Dhabi nuclear power plant, Aramco, etc and also destroyed naval vessels of coalition. Nowadays Yemen is stronger than the past.
4 This ludicrous scenario failed during Saddam attack on iran, Sunnis Azeris and kurds would die for Iran, so don't invent fifth column in our own country, PLEASE
5 USA is losing her place in the world, every where from economy to military position. So don't worry

 

[OldTwilight]

Bro, let me tell my own opinion about your numbered cases.
1 SAA is stronger than any time, we have agreement with Turkey and she cannot switch the side, for obvious reasons. Her economy is close to Iran and Russia, both are feeding turkey with petroleum so don't worry about them. At its worst Turkey will back groups In Idlib but not militarily only by some words. No one can crush russia, proves you know nothing about them.
2 Israel wanted to do it years ago but with Nasrallah threats to bomb nuclear sites of Israel and also the chemical storages of Haifa, they retreated and instead , Israelis armed terror groups. Afterwards, hezbollah destroyed all of terror groups by sending its soldiers to borders with Syria, Moreover, they started operations inside syria to stop isis and other terror groups. And Lebanon is safe more than any times.
3 USA is directly intervening In Yemen, not only Americans but naval vessels of UK and France are also helping blockade on Yemen. Yemen has overcome these challenges, and even better, they have sent plenty of warheads Into Riyadh, Abu Dhabi nuclear power plant, Aramco, etc and also destroyed naval vessels of coalition. Nowadays Yemen is stronger than the past.
4 This ludicrous scenario failed during Saddam attack on iran, Sunnis Azeris and kurds would die for Iran, so don't invent fifth column in our own country, PLEASE
5 USA is losing her place in the world, every where from economy to military position. So don't worry

1- my friend , don't be naive , Erdogan and Turks in their arrogance think they are so smart and if things get messy , they will abandon all of their words and truth ... just like Suleiman Ghanoni and Rhodes islands

without Air support , SAA can't advance as fast as possible and the moral of SAA will fall ...

2- Israel still want to do it , and now that they have direct backing of USA/UK/France , they would try again , and don't forget KSA and UAE which are spending money against Hezbollah in Lebanon ...

3- what about landing troops in Yemen !? you don't follow Yemen but Ansar Allah and Yemen Army are slowly losing ground to Pro KSA troops , what about Pakistan Army attack them from north !?

4- for sure there are some pan turks , pan kurds , pan arabs who will be bribed by money ... I didn't say this separatist are great danger but if all of them start to act , we should spend time and money to eliminate them and this will weaken us ...

5- that why they are so desperate to put these plans on motion before it become to late for them ...

 

[Muhammed45]

1- my friend , don't be naive , Erdogan and Turks in their arrogance think they are so smart and if things get messy , they will abandon all of their words and truth ... just like Suleiman Ghanoni and Rhodes islands

without Air support , SAA can't advance as fast as possible and the moral of SAA will fall ...

2- Israel still want to do it , and now that they have direct backing of USA/UK/France , they would try again , and don't forget KSA and UAE which are spending money against Hezbollah in Lebanon ...

3- what about landing troops in Yemen !? you don't follow Yemen but Ansar Allah and Yemen Army are slowly losing ground to Pro KSA troops , what about Pakistan Army attack them from north !?

4- for sure there are some pan turks , pan kurds , pan arabs who will be bribed by money ... I didn't say this separatist are great danger but if all of them start to act , we should spend time and money to eliminate them and this will weaken us ...

5- that why they are so desperate to put these plans on motion before it become to late for them ...

I like your visions, like Churchill said, assume the best, prepare for worst. Let's wait and be prepared for every scenario. Remember that after revolution we were in the weakest position, now everything is different. Threats are the same, but we are not the same guy.

 

[SubWater]

well , From what I understand this is the new approach of the west and her allies in region ...

1- Destroy SAA and Iran military power in coming days and use Rebels in Idlib to take the country by continues air support from the coalition and Turkey/KSA/Jordan/UAE and divide Syria in smaller lands ( officially or un-officially ) ... If Russia agree to the coalition term , then they can keep their military for now or else they will suffer heavy causalities by terrorist which are newly reorganized and armed .... of curse Iran troops in Syria should be completely crushed and wipe out ...

2- after crushing SAA and Iran in Syria , Israel will begin war with Hezbollah but this time so called Syrian Rebels will also enter Lebanon to do man - to - man fight and USA/UK/France navy will help Israel or even directly strike hezbollah .... Hezbollah should be crushed in 2018 at any cost

3- Yemen , USA will directly lead the war in Yemen , and for this , they will make false flag of sinking a commercial cargo in Bab-Al-Mandab then they use it as an excuse to attack Yemen ... The man-to-man fight will be by Pakistanis in the name of Defending Holy Lands so the should be some failed attack to Mekka and Medina to justify Pakistan army intervene ...

4- Now , Its time for head of snake .... IRAN .... there is three possible route :

4-1 : If Iran accept to disarm herself in another JCPOA ( which reformist are calling for it ) then the normal procedure of Iran and Lybia scenario will repeat for Iran in next 3 years and then Iran should be divided to smaller country once for all ...

4-2 : If Iran dosn't accept to disarm herself , then even more tougher sanction will impose on Iran , the coalation will use reformist as opposition to force Islamic Republic to accept to The colation term , or else Turkey and Azerbaija will be the one who support and coordinate Turks seperatis , Kurdistan will be the one who support Kurd seperatist , KSA and Arab will be the one who Support Arab and Sunni Separatist and after 1-1.5 year chaos in Iran , a direct attack will finish Iran ...

5- After Iran , this scenario should be repeated for Turkey , Pakistan , KSA and Egypt ...

6- then Russia and China and India will be the next targets ...

the plan is just to achieve Great Middle-east grand strategy .... so The west won't abandon it at any cost because without GME plan , they can't go for stronger enemies like Russia and India and even Greater enemy like China ...

so , IMO we should stopped this in first phase .... and if I had power , I would throw all I could at Israel after attacking our Troops and wouldn't let the western to organize their force and coordinate their military wing in such dangerous manner ...

I am not agree with you and your scenario bro but we must take Syria serious.
if they attack, we must start war with Israel and even hit the Europe.
They must know we won't bleed alone ......

 

[Draco.IMF]

Putin already told Satanyaho that a Israeli military involvment against Syria will be a decleration of war and Iran will stand with Syria, supreme leader already had a briefing with IRGC

It seems that Trump suddenly has now second thoughts to attack, we will see..

 

[WordsMatter]

well , From what I understand this is the new approach of the west and her allies in region ...

1- Destroy SAA and Iran military power in coming days and use Rebels in Idlib to take the country by continues air support from the coalition and Turkey/KSA/Jordan/UAE and divide Syria in smaller lands ( officially or un-officially ) ... If Russia agree to the coalition term , then they can keep their military for now or else they will suffer heavy causalities by terrorist which are newly reorganized and armed .... of curse Iran troops in Syria should be completely crushed and wipe out ...

2- after crushing SAA and Iran in Syria , Israel will begin war with Hezbollah but this time so called Syrian Rebels will also enter Lebanon to do man - to - man fight and USA/UK/France navy will help Israel or even directly strike hezbollah .... Hezbollah should be crushed in 2018 at any cost

3- Yemen , USA will directly lead the war in Yemen , and for this , they will make false flag of sinking a commercial cargo in Bab-Al-Mandab then they use it as an excuse to attack Yemen ... The man-to-man fight will be by Pakistanis in the name of Defending Holy Lands so the should be some failed attack to Mekka and Medina to justify Pakistan army intervene ...

4- Now , Its time for head of snake .... IRAN .... there is three possible route :

4-1 : If Iran accept to disarm herself in another JCPOA ( which reformist are calling for it ) then the normal procedure of Iran and Lybia scenario will repeat for Iran in next 3 years and then Iran should be divided to smaller country once for all ...

4-2 : If Iran dosn't accept to disarm herself , then even more tougher sanction will impose on Iran , the coalation will use reformist as opposition to force Islamic Republic to accept to The colation term , or else Turkey and Azerbaija will be the one who support and coordinate Turks seperatis , Kurdistan will be the one who support Kurd seperatist , KSA and Arab will be the one who Support Arab and Sunni Separatist and after 1-1.5 year chaos in Iran , a direct attack will finish Iran ...

5- After Iran , this scenario should be repeated for Turkey , Pakistan , KSA and Egypt ...

6- then Russia and China and India will be the next targets ...

the plan is just to achieve Great Middle-east grand strategy .... so The west won't abandon it at any cost because without GME plan , they can't go for stronger enemies like Russia and India and even Greater enemy like China ...

so , IMO we should stopped this in first phase .... and if I had power , I would throw all I could at Israel after attacking our Troops and wouldn't let the western to organize their force and coordinate their military wing in such dangerous manner ...

You know this how?

Putin already told Satanyaho that a Israeli military involvment against Syria will be a decleration of war and Iran will stand with Syria, supreme leader already had a briefing with IRGC

It seems that Trump suddenly has now second thoughts to attack, we will see..

You think that is going to deter an attack on Syria? If IRI's threats were a deterrent, Israel wouldn't keep bombing Syria and use IRGC and Hizbollah as target practice.

 

[OldTwilight]

You know this how?

just follow the news And put things together ....

 

[VEVAK]

well , From what I understand this is the new approach of the west and her allies in region ...

1- Destroy SAA and Iran military power in coming days and use Rebels in Idlib to take the country by continues air support from the coalition and Turkey/KSA/Jordan/UAE and divide Syria in smaller lands ( officially or un-officially ) ... If Russia agree to the coalition term , then they can keep their military for now or else they will suffer heavy causalities by terrorist which are newly reorganized and armed .... of curse Iran troops in Syria should be completely crushed and wipe out ...

2- after crushing SAA and Iran in Syria , Israel will begin war with Hezbollah but this time so called Syrian Rebels will also enter Lebanon to do man - to - man fight and USA/UK/France navy will help Israel or even directly strike hezbollah .... Hezbollah should be crushed in 2018 at any cost

3- Yemen , USA will directly lead the war in Yemen , and for this , they will make false flag of sinking a commercial cargo in Bab-Al-Mandab then they use it as an excuse to attack Yemen ... The man-to-man fight will be by Pakistanis in the name of Defending Holy Lands so the should be some failed attack to Mekka and Medina to justify Pakistan army intervene ...

4- Now , Its time for head of snake .... IRAN .... there is three possible route :

4-1 : If Iran accept to disarm herself in another JCPOA ( which reformist are calling for it ) then the normal procedure of Iran and Lybia scenario will repeat for Iran in next 3 years and then Iran should be divided to smaller country once for all ...

4-2 : If Iran dosn't accept to disarm herself , then even more tougher sanction will impose on Iran , the coalation will use reformist as opposition to force Islamic Republic to accept to The colation term , or else Turkey and Azerbaija will be the one who support and coordinate Turks seperatis , Kurdistan will be the one who support Kurd seperatist , KSA and Arab will be the one who Support Arab and Sunni Separatist and after 1-1.5 year chaos in Iran , a direct attack will finish Iran ...

5- After Iran , this scenario should be repeated for Turkey , Pakistan , KSA and Egypt ...

6- then Russia and China and India will be the next targets ...

the plan is just to achieve Great Middle-east grand strategy .... so The west won't abandon it at any cost because without GME plan , they can't go for stronger enemies like Russia and India and even Greater enemy like China ...

so , IMO we should stopped this in first phase .... and if I had power , I would throw all I could at Israel after attacking our Troops and wouldn't let the western to organize their force and coordinate their military wing in such dangerous manner ...

WRONG! And it is not as simple as you may think!

1st off do you know how many bases and financial assets the U.S. has in the region within Iran's Precision Strike Capability?

2ndly You would have to be delusional not to understand that after an attack on Iranian soil that Iran wouldn't respond by taking out the government and their infrastructures and leadership in Bahrain, UAE & Kuwait in a manner of hours

3rd Saudi Princes and officials will all have to move to their southern boarder and wouldn't even be safe in their own capital

4th lobbing missiles at Israel from Iran would be a waist of assets and a mistake plus Iran has equipped it's allies near Israel to do that for them!
Plus, Israel by it's self just doesn't have the assets needed to do any major damage to Iran using conventional weapons and the only thing they do have is nukes so covert actions at this time is more preferable.
And if the Israeli's ever dare to directly attack Iranian soil only then will Iranian missiles fly towards Israeli cities!


Finally your forgetting Iran's hold over the Persian Gulf waters


It's doubtful that even Trump is stupid enough to start a war with Iran! U.S. General will inform him that an unacceptable amount of U.S. assets will be lost in a very short time! And U.S. ships from container vessels to military ships won't be able to enter the Persian Gulf for decades resulting in the loss of Billions of dollars in US commerce on a yearly bases

 

[raptor22]

If Russia as you said agreed upon giving out Syria on gold plate to the western then we should say:
رحمه الله من یقرا الفاتحه مع الصلوات!!
For Russia as a superpower for now and in future and I don't think Putin would take it ..
Recently they made an offer that if Iran and Hezboallah and other Iranian group get out of Syria no strike would take place .. which means they are more concern by outcome of this war than the other side.

 

[Draco.IMF]

The Hadena Airbase in Iran is already heavily "filled up" with russian strategic bombers.

Its possible that there is a deal between Russia and USA, the communication lines are open.
Its possible that russia could accept "gentleman strikes" so USA can save its face and piss of with its fleet.
With "gentleman strikes" i mean limited, "cosmetic" strikes on non important objects, with no strategic importance, just a "show"
USA giving Russia the exact coordinates in advance so no Syrian/Russian casualties.
I personally doubt USA will do any serious "military adventure" against Russia there as they took the words of an russian general very seriously "We will sink any ship which strikes"

Just watch this clip of an israeli Ex-Knesset guy, he knows what he is talkig about, so you understand whats going on

https://twitter.com/x/status/984395369676238849