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EXCLUSIVE: The Pentagon has suspended training for new F-35 pilots and told Turkey the current students must leave the country by July 31 - new details about the rift with Ankara over its plans to purchase Russia's S-400 missile system


cting U.S. Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan is taking significant steps toward cutting Turkey out of the F-35 fighter jet program over concerns about Ankara’s plans to purchase a Russian missile system, telling his Turkish counterpart that pilots currently training in the United States must leave the country by July 31 and halting training for new students.

Turkey can still change its mind on purchasing the S-400 missile system, which is expected to arrive on Turkish soil as soon as this month, and the steps regarding F-35 training will be reversed, a senior U.S. defense official told Foreign Policy.

The United States has already halted delivery of F-35 materials and related equipment to Turkey. Without the training provided by the U.S. military, future Turkish F-35 pilots will not be able to operate the jet, which will provide the bulk of tactical airpower for the United States and many of its allied militaries for decades to come.

In the meantime, Turkey’s participation in the F-35 program will be suspended as of July 31. In a letter signed June 6 to Hulusi Akar, Turkey’s defense minister, Shanahan told Ankara that the 42 Turkish students attending F-35 training at Luke Air Force Base in Arizona and Eglin Air Force Base in Florida will be required to depart by that date. At this point, all international travel orders will be cancelled, and Turkish Air Force personnel will be prohibited from entering the bases.

If Turkey, however, receives the S-400 before July 31, this “deliberate and measured” approach will be “greatly accelerated,” said Ellen Lord, undersecretary of defense for acquisition and sustainment, at the Pentagon on Friday.

Turkey’s decision to send personnel to Russia to train on the S-400 was one of the main drivers for the decision, said Andrew Winternitz, the acting deputy assistant secretary of defense for Europe and NATO.

Two U.S. defense officials confirmed that Shanahan signed the letter and submitted it to Turkey. Foreign Policy reviewed a detailed list of actions attached to the letter stipulating the steps the United States is planning to take if Turkey moves forward with purchasing the S-400, which U.S. officials say poses a threat to the F-35 and NATO air defenses.

A third U.S. defense official said the steps laid out in the document had been discussed in a prior phone call between the two defense ministers.

The U.S. Department of Defense has repeatedly warned Turkey over the past year that the purchase of the S-400 would result in the suspension of Turkey’s participation in the F-35 program, and it offered Ankara an alternate to the Russian system, Raytheon’s Patriot missile system. U.S. officials say the integration of the S-400 with the F-35 and NATO air defenses could compromise closely guarded military secrets, providing Moscow the opportunity to collect valuable intelligence on the new stealth aircraft.

In the letter to Akar, released to reporters on Friday afternoon, Shanahan repeated a warning that Ankara’s decision to move forward with the sale will likely result in sanctions—an unusual measure for Washington to take against a NATO ally.

“There is strong bipartisan U.S. Congressional determination to see CAATSA sanctions imposed on Turkey if Turkey acquires the S-400,” Shanahan wrote, referring to the Russia-related Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act.



https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/06/07/pentagon-chief-to-suspend-turkeys-f-35-pilot-training/
 
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Turkey must have weighed the pros and cons of going for S400 vs losing out F-35 and affecting its NATO partnership and other future access and cooperation in other defence related projects
 
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there is an interesting banter going on the twitter between an Indian and someone bringing int he capabilities of S-400, SU30 and F-16
reference to 27 February 19 beating IAF suffered. the Indian responded with its claim of SU30 superiority in war exercises etc.
 
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there is an interesting banter going on the twitter between an Indian and someone bringing int he capabilities of S-400, SU30 and F-16
reference to 27 February 19 beating IAF suffered. the Indian responded with its claim of SU30 superiority in war exercises etc.
Sir, share it plz.
 
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Turkey must have weighed the pros and cons of going for S400 vs losing out F-35 and affecting its NATO partnership and other future access and cooperation in other defence related projects
Or maybe they thought the US was bluffing. They could have postponed the s400 purchase for a year or 2 with little effect and gotten further along the purchase.
 
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Or maybe they thought the US was bluffing. They could have postponed the s400 purchase for a year or 2 with little effect and gotten further along the purchase.
I doubt if Turks wouldn't be able to tell between a bluff and a real intention. they had enough time to see that and also enough channels to assess the amount of opposition.
also this was state level relation and agreement that cant be called off abruptly. there are financial and diplomatic setbacks and penalties involved.
wonder if you saw this interview below. the Turkish minister made a very good representation of his government.

all that aside. I am wondering if Turkey is buying this system to safeguard itself from America? as outrageous as it sounds (still being a NATO member) but I fail to see why else and who else Turkey will try to defend itself against? other potential rival in the region is Iran which doesn't need S400 to defend leaving Russia and what is the logic of buying a weapon to defend itself from same supplier?
 
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I doubt if Turks wouldn't be able to tell between a bluff and a real intention. they had enough time to see that and also enough channels to assess the amount of opposition.
also this was state level relation and agreement that cant be called off abruptly. there are financial and diplomatic setbacks and penalties involved.
wonder if you saw this interview below. the Turkish minister made a very good representation of his government.

all that aside. I am wondering if Turkey is buying this system to safeguard itself from America? as outrageous as it sounds (still being a NATO member) but I fail to see why else and who else Turkey will try to defend itself against? other potential rival in the region is Iran which doesn't need S400 to defend leaving Russia and what is the logic of buying a weapon to defend itself from same supplier?
Kremlin says S-400 deal with Turkey envisages partial technologies handover: Ifax
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...tial-technologies-handover-ifax-idUSKCN1TU0HH

Turkey's Erdogan says U.S. will not impose sanctions over Russian missile deal

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...tions-over-russian-missile-deal-idUSKCN1TU03B
 
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There is a cat and mouse game between Turkey and the US. Of course the US is going to apply sanctions and not deliver the F-35. The question is how far is Turkey willing to go to end cooperation with US. We know that once you are on the bad side of US things usually escalate pretty quickly. The US will make this personal and annoy Turkey beyond F-35.
 
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I doubt if Turks wouldn't be able to tell between a bluff and a real intention. they had enough time to see that and also enough channels to assess the amount of opposition.
also this was state level relation and agreement that cant be called off abruptly. there are financial and diplomatic setbacks and penalties involved.
wonder if you saw this interview below. the Turkish minister made a very good representation of his government.

all that aside. I am wondering if Turkey is buying this system to safeguard itself from America? as outrageous as it sounds (still being a NATO member) but I fail to see why else and who else Turkey will try to defend itself against? other potential rival in the region is Iran which doesn't need S400 to defend leaving Russia and what is the logic of buying a weapon to defend itself from same supplier?
The problem is Mediterranean gas... Greece and south cyprus made a pack with Israel. And we need a defence system that we can use against greece and Israel, for our safety...
 
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There is a cat and mouse game between Turkey and US. Of course the US is going to apply sanctions and not deliver the F-35. The question is how far is Turkey willing to go to end cooperation with US.
Remember after all the huff and puff they handed over the pastor quietly.

Andrew Brunson: Turkey releases US pastor after two years
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45841276
 
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Sir, share it plz.

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