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The new Modi-Doval doctrine on Pakistan is more robust than Manmohan's

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The Prime Minister has announced that he will spend his Diwali with flood-hit victims in Jammu & Kashmir (J&K). His National Security Advisor (NSA), Ajit Doval, said yesterday (21 October) at a security conference that India is keen to resolve all its problems with Pakistan and China through dialogue, but it will also invest in an effective deterrence.


Ajit Doval. Reuters

“Effective deterrence”, he implied, was the key to peace. Over the last few weeks, bothNarendra Modi and his NSA have been asking our jawans on the international border and the line of control in J&K to give it back in spades if the Pakistanis try disturbing the peace by unprovoked firing.The Pakistanis are said to have been surprised by the ferocity of the BSF response to their provocations.

India under Modi is evolving a new security doctrine that abandons the weak-kneed and pointless pusillanimity of the Manmohan Singh years. What is being junked is the old acceptance that we will take any provocation lying down in order to signal our peaceful intentions. While some peaceniks think this is fine, the fact is it gave both our neighbours the impression that we Indians have no spine. It has, in fact, emboldened them to indulge in more brazen provocations.

While it is too early to say how the Modi-Doval hardline approach is going to work, there is little doubt that the old stance has been a failure. But the surprising thing is that the new stance has generated its fair bunch of critics. In a cover story, India Today warns that we are “playing with fire”, and Editor-in-Chief Aroon Purie said in his editor’s note that “shelling across the border is not going to bring about any long-term resolution to the Kashmir conflict; a solution can only be reached through sustained dialogue, however frustrating that may sometimes be. The sooner we can sit across the table, the better.”

He is completely wrong, for this is precisely the policy we have been following and we are nowhere near a solution.

Praveen Swami, a former Firstpost editor and now with The Indian Express, also excoriates the new line on LOC firing, and suggests that “machismo have never worked as a plan against Pakistan". He added: “The lesson from the data is simple: firing on the LoC helps Pakistan pursue an escalatory strategy; quiet makes it harder. In 2003, the ceasefire went into place - and with it, India was able to complete fencing and enhance aggressive counter-infiltration measures. Fighting inside Jammu and Kashmir went into a year-on-year decline.”

Sure, if the only idea of the Modi-Doval strategy is machismo, he would be right. But is the non-strategy of ignoring Pakistani provocations actually working? Swami probably confuses coincidence with correlation. The reason for the relative quiet on the LoC after 2003 may have had little to do with the ceasefire agreement or the weak Indian response to provocations. It had everything to do with American pressure on that country after 9/11. After the 1971 defeat, too, Pakistan gave us a decade-and-a-half of quiet. It was merely biding its time till it regained its strength. Now that America itself is in retreat from Afghanistan and shows no stomach for another battle, Pakistan feels emboldened to up the ante once again with India. Fear of America is gone. Meanwhile, China is asking Pakistan to pressure us when it can, thus giving it another reason to start low-intensity hostilities. In this situation, it is questionable whether keeping quiet is the right policy for us.

It is obvious that any change is unsettling for the security-wallahs and peaceniks who have been comfortable with breast-beating when India did nothing to deal with its recalcitrant neighbours. They could then say we need a more robust policy on terror and border management without having to explain how. Now that there are signs of some genuinely robust rethinking on our part, they are suddenly fretting about the consequences.

This is not to say Modi must escalate the tensions. It should not. The effectiveness, or otherwise, of the new security policy can only be gauged after it has been rolled out and implemented over the next few years. However, the policy cannot go wrong as long as it keeps some core principles in mind and we completely understand how our neighbours think about themselves and us. Right now they think we lack resolve and can be slowly coerced to sign away our rights - whether it is in J&K, Ladakh or Arunachal Pradesh.

This is exactly what our policy should seek to dispel: that we are pushovers. But conveying this needs more than firing mortars into Pakistan-occupied J&K. It needs us to embrace a whole raft of initiatives and a long-term vision to send this message across.

The core of our strategy should be to, first, build a fast-growing and entrepreneurial economy; second, develop a policy of continuous diplomatic engagement with Pakistan, China and all the major powers; and, third, to build a strong internal and external security doctrine that can effectively deal with terror and Sino-Pak collusion in boxing India into a corner.

As we have repeatedly noted, this policy will have to take into account what Pakistan and China are all about. The former is an ideological state in a permanent mental frame of war against "Hindu" India; the latter is a hegemon to beat all hegemons of the past.

The reality of Pakistan is this: Islam and a permanent anti-India stance are vital to its staying in one piece. So we should forget about any kind of solution to our problems with terror in a foreseeable timeframe. And Kashmir is not the core issue at all. An ideological state has to be defeated in the mind before it can offer durable peace; its actions are not guided by rational security concerns alone. A normal state would have been happy to discuss peace after achieving nuclear parity with India in 1998; but Pakistan sees nuclear parity as a shield under which it can prosecute permanent low-intensity warfare and terror against India. This means we have to keep raising the costs to Pakistan for this policy even while keeping our aggression below the threshold of formal war.

This is what C Christine Fair, in her book Fighting To The End: The Pakistani Army's Way of War, clearly emphasises. Repeated defeats, and even the loss of East Pakistan in 1971, did not make the Pakistani army (which is the state really) want to work out an honourable peace. Defeat for Pakistan is not defeat in the battlefield, but the inability to be a thorn in India's side. Any concession on J&K will only convince the Pakistani generals that they were right all along in pursuing a path of mindless antagonism to India. The ISI will keep sending terrorists over to do damage.

For India, this means four or five things: we have to keep strengthening our resolve to fight terror and roll with the punches when we can't prevent it; we have to give it back to Pakistan without raising the stakes where it becomes an open war with the nuclear threat hanging over us; we have to develop covert capabilities inside Pakistan so that they know two can play the game; we have to diplomatically explain to the world what we are doing and why Kashmir isn't the issue, but Pakistan's ideology-driven terrorism is; and, lastly, we have to keep talking to Pakistan to convince them they cannot win and to tell the world dialogue isn't a problem for us.

We have to prepare ourselves for a 100-year war of attrition with Pakistan till the latter accepts reality or falls victim to its own follies and disintegrates. Right now the latter possibility looks more probable than the former.

As for China, it is a hegemon which wants to use its economic clout to settle borders and control zones to its satisfaction. It is willing to trade economic concessions for territorial and political gains. To deter China, we have to grow faster than them, develop tactical and effective nuclear deterrence abilities, and emphasise that trade cannot grow if they keep wanting to change the status quo on the border by aggressive and intimidatory tactics. And, of course, we have to aggressively pursue long-term anti-China alliances - economic and strategic - with the Japanese, the Vietnamese and the US. It will take a long time for China to get the message that they cannot browbeat us into making concessions, but the Chinese always think long-term. So we too need to prepare for at least a 50-year mind battle with the Chinese to achieve a durable peace on our borders.

This is the context in which we must view the Modi-Doval emerging doctrine of security. The Prime Minister's decision to spend Diwali in J&K should be part of our internal effort to bring the valley into the mainstream of Indian thought and strategy. This sends a message both to the separatists, Pakistan and China.

It was on 26 October 1947 that Maharaja Hari Singh, the ruler of J&K, signed the instrument of accession with India after Pakistan sent Pathan tribesmen into his state to coerce it to sign up with them. This 26 October, India has to send a message to J&K, Pakistan, China and the world that this accession is final. There is nothing to negotiate with anyone except with our own estranged people in that state.

The new Modi-Doval doctrine on Pakistan is more robust than Manmohan's - Firstpost
 
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As for China, it is a hegemon which wants to use its economic clout to settle borders and control zones to its satisfaction. It is willing to trade economic concessions for territorial and political gains. To deter China, we have to grow faster than them, develop tactical and effective nuclear deterrence abilities, and emphasise that trade cannot grow if they keep wanting to change the status quo on the border by aggressive and intimidatory tactics. And, of course, we have to aggressively pursue long-term anti-China alliances - economic and strategic - with the Japanese, the Vietnamese and the US. It will take a long time for China to get the message that they cannot browbeat us into making concessions, but the Chinese always think long-term. So we too need to prepare for at least a 50-year mind battle with the Chinese to achieve a durable peace on our borders.

This is the context in which we must view the Modi-Doval emerging doctrine of security. The Prime Minister's decision to spend Diwali in J&K should be part of our internal effort to bring the valley into the mainstream of Indian thought and strategy. This sends a message both to the separatists, Pakistan and China.

It was on 26 October 1947 that Maharaja Hari Singh, the ruler of J&K, signed the instrument of accession with India after Pakistan sent Pathan tribesmen into his state to coerce it to sign up with them. This 26 October, India has to send a message to J&K, Pakistan, China and the world that this accession is final. There is nothing to negotiate with anyone except with our own estranged people in that state.





Very important parts......embrace the change!
 
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MMS didn't have any 'doctrine'... they were just passing time during 2004 and 2014.... India was just running.... least utilization of our capabilities and resources.

The reality of Pakistan is this: Islam and a permanent anti-India stance are vital to its staying in one piece.

Source: The new Modi-Doval doctrine on Pakistan is more robust than Manmohan's

Thats the main problem...setting anti-Indiasm as their national integration power was dangerous. It doesn't work


Think Pakistan is a 5000 years old county and name. If tomorrow say Sindh and Baluchistan make a country, what will be the source of their nationalism? Anti-Pakistanism? Just because they want to be independent this doesnt make them right! Nor does it works.
 
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I completely agree with this.
We have to prepare ourselves for a 100-year war of attrition with Pakistan till the latter accepts reality or falls victim to its own follies and disintegrates. Right now the latter possibility looks more probable than the former.

No war or any such skirmish BS, just asymmetric warfare, economic warfare, proper geopolitical subversion, and basically raising our own level of advancement at such a pace that pakistan won't be able to keep up or die trying; all of these for an extended period of time 100 years if need be.
 
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Indian self pity is amusing. It lives in a delusion that it never violates LoC, it always has to be Pakistanis because India is a Shanti loving state that has never commited aggression against the region nor is it funding or has funded terrorism in Pakistan ever since its existence.

This is a self serving narrative. India doesn't have a policy against Pakistan because Pakistan is not bound to Indian policies or what India wants.

Pakistan is a strong regional power which has the capability to mount any counter offensive it wants to. If India adopts an extremist approach over a longer term, Pakistan will have none of it.

We have set objectives which we will attain and India can try to be as big of a tough guy it wants. It doesn't change the fact that both a full scale war and perpetual border hostilities with Pakistan will result in failure for India and will destroy the Indian economy.

On a brighter note, i am pleased to see people running India who harbor deluded ambition and have drawn no lessons from the failures of Operation Brasstacks and Parakaram.

India needs to behave like a country more and less like a high school bully. We all know what happens to them.
 
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India needs to behave like a country more and less like a high school bully. We all know what happens to them.

I think India have been behaving like a mature country inspite of being attacked by overt and covert means (let us keep those incidents out of this thread).......... When India behaves matured there are several who term it as darpok, or a country without spine........
 
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It lives in a delusions that it never violates LoC, it always has to be Pakistanis because India is a Shanti loving state that has never commited aggression against the region nor is it funding or has funded terrorism in Pakistan ever since its existence.
Like pakistan is reporting every violation it does.
 
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Indian self pity is amusing. It lives in a delusion that it never violates LoC, it always has to be Pakistanis because India is a Shanti loving state that has never commited aggression against the region nor is it funding or has funded terrorism in Pakistan ever since its existence.

This is a self serving narrative. India doesn't have a policy against Pakistan because Pakistan is not bound to Indian policies or what India wants.

Pakistan is a strong regional power which has the capability to mount any counter offensive it wants to. If India adopts an extremist approach over a longer term, Pakistan will have none of it.

We have set objectives which we will attain and India can try to be as big of a tough guy it wants. It doesn't change the fact that both a full scale war and perpetual border hostilities with Pakistan will result in failure for India and will destroy the Indian economy.

On a brighter note, i am pleased to see people running India who harbor deluded ambition and have drawn no lessons from the failures of Operation Brasstacks and Parakaram.

India needs to behave like a country more and less like a high school bully. We all know what happens to them.

i doubt india will ever allow any country in south asia to dictate terms. 80% of south asia in india, hence india is south asia and south asia is india. pakistan has to come to this term and it will.
 
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i doubt india will ever allow any country in south asia to dictate terms. 80% of south asia in india, hence india is south asia and south asia is india. pakistan has to come to this term and it will.


80% ? lolllz in which term 80% you used ?:oops:

you indians look countries like people to people . india is part of S.asia not south asia ka baap :lol: ask any sane person he will say INDIA IS PART OF SOUTH ASIA . not even mental will say south asia is part of india . because of your these talks south Asians feel bad from india
 
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...Modi-Dhoval made Sir-Taj-Aziz & pakistan run to UN and P-5 with the tail between it's legs...
:coffee:
..even blinds can SEE the difference...
...but people suffering from pakistaniat can not see the inevitable...
(..no treatment available)
 
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I have been highly impressed by the Indian response to the repeated ceasefire violations by Pakistan. They should get the message that they can't get away with everything. After acquiring nukes the Pakistani establishment got this in their head that they could do whatever they like and India wouldn't retaliate. Kargil was also a part of this delusion. India must take them out of their delusion, only then peace has any chance. This is how the response should be every single time.

 
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Indian self pity is amusing. It lives in a delusion that it never violates LoC, it always has to be Pakistanis because India is a Shanti loving state that has never commited aggression against the region nor is it funding or has funded terrorism in Pakistan ever since its existence.

This is a self serving narrative. India doesn't have a policy against Pakistan because Pakistan is not bound to Indian policies or what India wants.

Pakistan is a strong regional power which has the capability to mount any counter offensive it wants to. If India adopts an extremist approach over a longer term, Pakistan will have none of it.

We have set objectives which we will attain and India can try to be as big of a tough guy it wants. It doesn't change the fact that both a full scale war and perpetual border hostilities with Pakistan will result in failure for India and will destroy the Indian economy.

On a brighter note, i am pleased to see people running India who harbor deluded ambition and have drawn no lessons from the failures of Operation Brasstacks and Parakaram.

India needs to behave like a country more and less like a high school bully. We all know what happens to them.

Lets assume that India has engaged in subversion tactics inside Pakistan, can you honestly say it is lesser than what Pakistan has done inside India? If yes then I'm sorry its actually your comment that's self serving.
Pakistan remains an ideological state, and the sorry state of Pakistani politics proves it so. I don't see how you can be mature to that, not responding properly just labels us cowards, Pakistan definitely believed so until Modi that is.

"...........will destroy the Indian economy.".......?
You are mistaking India for Pakistan we don't have to use a sizable chunk of our GDP to fight Pakistan, INDIA IS A BRIC NATION.

The fact that Pakistan had to go to the UN(unsuccessfully) and then rally in UK after the steadfast response of the IA proves that India under Modi will no more follow the lackadaisical Manmohan regime's spineless pursuit of "peace at the face of hostilities". We are now the 2nd largest standing army on the face of the earth, and believe me future standoffs won't be anything like 10 years ago.

Expect hardened responses from now on for any misadventures, and this time UN and/or US won't entertain Pakistan.
 
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...Modi-Dhoval made Sir-Taj-Aziz & pakistan run to UN and P-5 with the tail between it's legs...
:coffee:
..even blinds can SEE the difference...
...but people suffering from pakistaniat can not see the inevitable...
(..no treatment available)
9 indians 12 pakistanis killed so far and dozens injured . this is what all ,many BSF injured and 1 killed while no ranger hurt even . whats this ? response ?
 
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