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The Week | New horizons

It was after a long selection process that the French Rafale emerged as the aircraft that will be inducted into the Indian Air Force from 2015. The 052,000-crore Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft deal involves the induction of 126 fighter aircraft, with an option to induct 63 more, if required, at a later stage. Apart from the huge money and the leap of technology involved, what does the deal mean from a fighter pilot's point of view?

The Indian Air Force conducted the initial selection in a meticulous and professional manner. More than 600 technical parameters were compared during the process, before arriving at the shortlist comprising the Rafale and the Eurofighter Typhoon. The final selection was done by the government, based on costing norms, including life cycle costs.

The air force is more technology oriented than the army or the navy. In a combat scenario, all other factors being the same, the air force with better technology will come out ahead. With two nuclear-armed neighbours, and given India's political relationship with them, it is imperative that the IAF has the best technology that the country can afford. The MMRCA deal is about induction of such technology.

When I joined my first operational squadron in 1974, it was equipped with the MiG-21 FL, an early variant. The MiG-21 is a much maligned aircraft because of the number of accidents it has been involved in. I personally found it a wonderful aircraft to fly. Like all things mechanical, it had its quirks. If you are aware of these quirks, you could get away with a lot, and still come back to talk about it. ‘Supersonic sports plane' was a very apt tag for the MiG-21 FL, and in retrospect, that was precisely what was wrong with the aircraft. It had very limited radius of action (the distance you could go out, fire your weapons, and return safely), its weapon carrying capability was negligible, and it had no avionics worth the name. The later variants of the MiG-21 overcame many of these limitations, and had much better operational capability.

In 1974, the IAF was trying to inculcate cost consciousness among its personnel. One step taken was to mark each item of equipment, including the aircraft, with its cost. Every time you came near the MiG-21 FL, you were reminded that the aircraft cost 076 lakh. Today, you will not get a high-end car for that money! This aspect of the low cost of Soviet/Russian aircraft became a kind of mantra in the IAF.

As the IAF progressed professionally, the flaw in this logic came out. The IAF had started the process of ‘life cycle cost' studies of the aircraft in its inventory. By then it had inducted a number of MiG variants (MiG-21, MiG-23, MiG-25, MiG-27 and MiG-29) and the Mirage-2000. The study brought out that, when the life cycle costs are worked out, aircraft like the MiG-29 are not really cheap.

In 1985, I joined the newly inducted Mirage-2000 fleet. The aircraft was a technological marvel. What surprised me the most was the ease with which you could adapt to and assimilate these new technologies. I think it was the way in which it was presented to the pilot in the cockpit. It all seemed so natural and logical, and left you wondering how you managed without these technologies so far. While the aircraft performance was in a different league, mainly because of the innovative fly-by-wire system, basic flying was extremely simple. It was the management of the onboard systems that required skill. The availability of onboard systems like the multimode radar and the navigation and weapon-aiming systems made it possible to exploit the aircraft operationally for tasks limited only by your imagination. Also, the Mirage-2000 has an exceptionally good flight safety record.

As I went up in the hierarchy of the IAF, I got to see these aircraft from a different perspective. As the chief operations officer of a flying base, and thereafter as a base commander, I realised that the MiG-21 and other Soviet/Russian aircraft were not really maintenance friendly. Keeping these aircraft fly-worthy was a challenge. Compared with them, the Mirage-2000 was in a totally different league.

The Mirage-2000 is built on a modular concept. Most modules had built-in test equipment. If the test showed ‘no-go', the faulty module just had to be pulled out and replaced with a functional module, and you were good to go. Even the engine was a module. Replacing an engine, which is required at times, took a little more than an hour. In the case of the MiG-21, an engine change was a major job which took significantly longer time and more effort to accomplish.

In 1993, I was part of the team bringing in more Mirage-2000 aircraft from France. Dassault, the manufacturer of the aircraft, made it a point to show us the Rafale, which was in the process of being operationalised for induction into the French air force and navy. The aircraft embodied an extension of the Mirage-2000 philosophy, but was more than a generation ahead in technology.
My association with the Mirage-2000 fleet included a fair amount of interaction with the French representatives, especially from Dassault. They are hard-nosed businessmen. If you have the money, and are willing to pay, they will deliver the required service. They did not seem too concerned with matters like foreign policy. However, like any businessmen, they will not waste an opportunity to exploit the customer if the opportunity arises.

In 2006, I was part of a delegation to the Farnborough Air Show. The Indian delegation was in demand because of the MMRCA deal. We were given briefings by all vendors in the fray. One common point about the two American vendors, Boeing and Lockheed Martin, was that, when queried about specific equipment or weapon options for the F-18 and the F-16, the standard reply was “We will have to check with the State Department”. I do not think Dassault does business under such constraints.

The induction of the Rafale will pose challenges to the IAF. In my opinion, the main challenges will be training and infrastructure creation. The assimilation of these new technologies will not pose much of a problem, but the volume of personnel to be trained, especially for maintenance, will be a challenge. Induction of such high technology will also require the creation of dedicated equipment servicing and repair bays, and other allied infrastructure. This is a mammoth task.

The author has flown more than 3,500 hours on various fighter aircraft, including the MiG-21 and the Mirage-2000. written by Air Vice Marshal Mohan John (retd)
 
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Challenges are huge but if IAF doesn't grow with tide it will be blown away... :)
 
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Well ofcourse it takes time to formulate tactics as well as strategies that best make use of an aircrafts full potential

Infact Indian Airforce was fully able to acclimatise themselves with the Capabilities of the Su30MKI only by 2004-05 , ie 7 Yrs after the first Su30Ks were delivered , this was also the reason why despite Having some 28 Su30K/MK in service , India Prefered to use the Mirage2000H and Mig29S during the Kargil campaign

as far as training to fly the Rafale is concerned , well that is part of mmrca contract and the french Airforce will help train the first batch of Rafale pilots for IAF
 
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Infact Indian Airforce was fully able to acclimatise themselves with the Capabilities of the Su30MKI only by 2004-05 , ie 7 Yrs after the first Su30Ks were delivered , this was also the reason why despite Having some 28 Su30K/MK in service , India Prefered to use the Mirage2000H and Mig29S during the Kargil campaign

I always wondered why IAF din't use SU30MKs during kargil as it could carry more payload..... Thanks for clearing my doubt :tup:
 
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I always wondered why IAF din't use SU30MKs during kargil as it could carry more payload..... Thanks for clearing my doubt :tup:

The Su-30s India received form Russia is SU-30K and is for Air role only thats the reason.
 
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we didn't have MKI's back in Kargil let alone the original SU-30MK given to IAF we only had MiG-29's to give fighter escort and Jaguars and Mirages for interdiction and strike missions.
Actually we did have 18 Su30Ks and 10 Su30MKs during Kargil , but Su30MKI were delivered only in 2001
 
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we didn't have MKI's back in Kargil let alone the original SU-30MK given to IAF we only had MiG-29's to give fighter escort and Jaguars and Mirages for interdiction and strike missions.
Actually we did have 18 Su30Ks and 10 Su30MKs during Kargil , but Su30MKI were delivered only in 2001
 
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The Week | New horizons

It was after a long selection process that the French Rafale emerged as the aircraft that will be inducted into the Indian Air Force from 2015. The 052,000-crore Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft deal involves the induction of 126 fighter aircraft, with an option to induct 63 more, if required, at a later stage. Apart from the huge money and the leap of technology involved, what does the deal mean from a fighter pilot's point of view?

The Indian Air Force conducted the initial selection in a meticulous and professional manner. More than 600 technical parameters were compared during the process, before arriving at the shortlist comprising the Rafale and the Eurofighter Typhoon. The final selection was done by the government, based on costing norms, including life cycle costs.

The air force is more technology oriented than the army or the navy. In a combat scenario, all other factors being the same, the air force with better technology will come out ahead. With two nuclear-armed neighbours, and given India's political relationship with them, it is imperative that the IAF has the best technology that the country can afford. The MMRCA deal is about induction of such technology.

When I joined my first operational squadron in 1974, it was equipped with the MiG-21 FL, an early variant. The MiG-21 is a much maligned aircraft because of the number of accidents it has been involved in. I personally found it a wonderful aircraft to fly. Like all things mechanical, it had its quirks. If you are aware of these quirks, you could get away with a lot, and still come back to talk about it. ‘Supersonic sports plane' was a very apt tag for the MiG-21 FL, and in retrospect, that was precisely what was wrong with the aircraft. It had very limited radius of action (the distance you could go out, fire your weapons, and return safely), its weapon carrying capability was negligible, and it had no avionics worth the name. The later variants of the MiG-21 overcame many of these limitations, and had much better operational capability.

In 1974, the IAF was trying to inculcate cost consciousness among its personnel. One step taken was to mark each item of equipment, including the aircraft, with its cost. Every time you came near the MiG-21 FL, you were reminded that the aircraft cost 076 lakh. Today, you will not get a high-end car for that money! This aspect of the low cost of Soviet/Russian aircraft became a kind of mantra in the IAF.

As the IAF progressed professionally, the flaw in this logic came out. The IAF had started the process of ‘life cycle cost' studies of the aircraft in its inventory. By then it had inducted a number of MiG variants (MiG-21, MiG-23, MiG-25, MiG-27 and MiG-29) and the Mirage-2000. The study brought out that, when the life cycle costs are worked out, aircraft like the MiG-29 are not really cheap.

In 1985, I joined the newly inducted Mirage-2000 fleet. The aircraft was a technological marvel. What surprised me the most was the ease with which you could adapt to and assimilate these new technologies. I think it was the way in which it was presented to the pilot in the cockpit. It all seemed so natural and logical, and left you wondering how you managed without these technologies so far. While the aircraft performance was in a different league, mainly because of the innovative fly-by-wire system, basic flying was extremely simple. It was the management of the onboard systems that required skill. The availability of onboard systems like the multimode radar and the navigation and weapon-aiming systems made it possible to exploit the aircraft operationally for tasks limited only by your imagination. Also, the Mirage-2000 has an exceptionally good flight safety record.

As I went up in the hierarchy of the IAF, I got to see these aircraft from a different perspective. As the chief operations officer of a flying base, and thereafter as a base commander, I realised that the MiG-21 and other Soviet/Russian aircraft were not really maintenance friendly. Keeping these aircraft fly-worthy was a challenge. Compared with them, the Mirage-2000 was in a totally different league.

The Mirage-2000 is built on a modular concept. Most modules had built-in test equipment. If the test showed ‘no-go', the faulty module just had to be pulled out and replaced with a functional module, and you were good to go. Even the engine was a module. Replacing an engine, which is required at times, took a little more than an hour. In the case of the MiG-21, an engine change was a major job which took significantly longer time and more effort to accomplish.

In 1993, I was part of the team bringing in more Mirage-2000 aircraft from France. Dassault, the manufacturer of the aircraft, made it a point to show us the Rafale, which was in the process of being operationalised for induction into the French air force and navy. The aircraft embodied an extension of the Mirage-2000 philosophy, but was more than a generation ahead in technology.
My association with the Mirage-2000 fleet included a fair amount of interaction with the French representatives, especially from Dassault. They are hard-nosed businessmen. If you have the money, and are willing to pay, they will deliver the required service. They did not seem too concerned with matters like foreign policy. However, like any businessmen, they will not waste an opportunity to exploit the customer if the opportunity arises.

In 2006, I was part of a delegation to the Farnborough Air Show. The Indian delegation was in demand because of the MMRCA deal. We were given briefings by all vendors in the fray. One common point about the two American vendors, Boeing and Lockheed Martin, was that, when queried about specific equipment or weapon options for the F-18 and the F-16, the standard reply was “We will have to check with the State Department”. I do not think Dassault does business under such constraints.

The induction of the Rafale will pose challenges to the IAF. In my opinion, the main challenges will be training and infrastructure creation. The assimilation of these new technologies will not pose much of a problem, but the volume of personnel to be trained, especially for maintenance, will be a challenge. Induction of such high technology will also require the creation of dedicated equipment servicing and repair bays, and other allied infrastructure. This is a mammoth task.

The author has flown more than 3,500 hours on various fighter aircraft, including the MiG-21 and the Mirage-2000. written by Air Vice Marshal Mohan John (retd)


Great article, it points out to me that the Rafale multi role fighter was picked up to counter JF-17 this is a great honour for the Sino-pakistani fighter plane. on top of that India will face a giant challenge to have competent personnel to handle the maintenance and to absorb the technology of the rafale, pointing again to the fact that Pakistan is far more technologically advanced than India.
 
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Great article, it points out to me that Rafale multi role fighter was picked up to counter JF-17 this is a great honour for the Sino-pakistani fighter plane.

flatter yourself for all we care ;)
 
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Joke of the century! Care to explain how?

Don't ruin it Rocky....

Let him enjoy his flase flag and praise his REAL country as much as he can.

@Mods - His posts confirm this but still it would be good if you could confirm the fact that he is a false flagger. Thanks.
 
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Great article, it points out to me that the Rafale multi role fighter was picked up to counter JF-17 this is a great honour for the Sino-pakistani fighter plane. on top of that India will face a giant challenge to have competent personnel to handle the maintenance and to absorb the technology of the rafale, pointing again to the fact that Pakistan is far more technologically advanced than India.

Are you on drugs?
 
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The basic point is why did we buy MIG? Did we have the access to other planes back then? Did we have enough money back then? Compare these with current scenario.
Mig s were our best buy at that time, maybe perhaps someone in near future will say something about Rafale...... ( Flying a generation gap plane will always feel the difference) The author is right in mentioning that it will be challenge to form a new fighter infrastructure ..... But haven we felt the challenge right from the 1947?

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Great article, it points out to me that the Rafale multi role fighter was picked up to counter JF-17 this is a great honour for the Sino-pakistani fighter plane. on top of that India will face a giant challenge to have competent personnel to handle the maintenance and to absorb the technology of the rafale, pointing again to the fact that Pakistan is far more technologically advanced than India.
Auyshman Bhav.... Get well soon buddy
 
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Great article, it points out to me that the Rafale multi role fighter was picked up to counter JF-17 this is a great honour for the Sino-pakistani fighter plane. on top of that India will face a giant challenge to have competent personnel to handle the maintenance and to absorb the technology of the rafale, pointing again to the fact that Pakistan is far more technologically advanced than India.

:cheers: :rofl:
 
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