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RECENTLY, US Defence Secretary Ashton Carter reportedly opened a meeting with senior Pakistani military leaders by declaring: “I must tell you, I am a friend of India.”

The statement, besides being gauche, was superfluous. Carter’s closeness to the Indians is all too evident. The US defence secretary has met four times in the last year with his Indian counterpart, as noted in the joint communiqué issued after his recent visit to India.

Explore: 'We try to be a trusted partner of India', says US Defence Secy

The joint communiqué outlines the vast scope and depth of the present and planned Indo-US military relationship; including co-production of advanced defence articles, joint research on advanced jet engines and aircraft carrier technologies, and strategic cooperation on maritime security.

Most significantly, India endorsed the US stand on the South China Sea islands dispute with China by reaffirming “importance of freedom of navigation and over-flight throughout the region, including in the South China Sea” and vowed support for “a regional security architecture”.

Read more: India, US ‘agree in principle’ to share military logistics

The US alliance with India has obvious and significant negative implications for Pakistan’s security.

The US has opened all military and technology doors to India, and encouraged Israel and other allies to do so as well. For the past eight years, India has been the world’s largest arms importer, buying over $100 billion in weapons each year, two-thirds of which are deployed against Pakistan. Moreover, US military and political support encourages India in its bellicose behaviour towards Pakistan.

It is not merely that Pakistan suffers ‘collateral damage’ from the US arming of India against China. The US has imposed — formally and informally — severe and discriminatory restraints on Pakistan’s acquisition of advanced and dual-use technologies and weapons systems from the US or allied sources.

It opposes Pakistan’s defensive responses to India’s build-up: fissile material production, theatre nuclear weapons and long-range missiles. Pressure has even been exerted on China not to transfer advanced weaponry and technologies to Pakistan. Unless this dynamic is changed, Pakistan’s capabilities for conventional defence and nuclear deterrence against India could be significantly eroded.

The latest confirmation of the Indo-US alliance comes at a time when Pakistan’s limited convergence with the US on Afghanistan may be fading. According to Indian press reports, Ashton Carter conveyed to the Indians that the US has given up on Pakistan’s cooperation to stabilise Afghanistan, and wants India to play a larger role there.

The US alliance with India has negative implications for Pakistan’s security.
Worse, the US appears to be encouraging closer ties between India and the GCC states, especially Saudi Arabia, which Modi’s visited recently. There may be an Iranian gambit as well. Given India’s close relations with Iran and informal US-Iranian cooperation against the militant Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria, collaboration between the US, India and Iran to ‘stabilise’ Afghanistan cannot be ruled out.

Pakistan must formulate a well-considered and calibrated military and diplomatic response to these adverse developments. Capitulation is not an option. India’s treatment of Nepal, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh should be a lesson against acceptance of Indian hegemony.

Pakistan’s military response will have to be defensive, asymmetrical, and designed to preserve the ability to deter and repel a conventional Indian attack, and the credibility of nuclear deterrence.

To break up a large Indian surprise attack (projected by the Cold Start doctrine), Pakistan can multiply its short-range, conventional missile capabilities. Air defence can also be best assured by anti-aircraft and ballistic missile defence systems. On the sea, Pakistan cannot afford expensive aircraft carriers; its defence will have to rely on submarines, large numbers of fast missile boats, and anti-submarine warfare capabilities.

To maintain credible nuclear deterrence and dissuade a pre-emptive enemy strike, Pakistan needs to continue to multiply its short, medium and long-range missile capabilities. Ultimately, the deployment of nuclear submarine-based missiles offers the most credible second strike option.

And, so long as India persists in its reported support for the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan, and the Balochi Liberation Army, Pakistan would be unwise to give up the option of supporting the legitimate struggle of the Kashmiri people for freedom and self-determination.

Pakistan’s diplomacy will have to be dynamic and imaginative.

Strategic cooperation with China will remain critical. Just as the US is willing to share cutting-edge military technologies with India, China should be expected to share its most advanced weapons systems with Pakistan, including nuclear submarines, stealth aircraft, and its anti-aircraft carrier missiles.

Pakistan also needs to do much more to enhance military and diplomatic cooperation with Russia, which is locked in a new Cold War with the US, displeased with India’s embrace of America, and much closer to China. Several Russian weapons systems — the S300 anti-ballistic missile and the SU-31 fighter-bomber — are among the best in class.

In Afghanistan, Pakistan should clearly draw its ‘red lines’: no Indian military presence or use of Afghan territory for subversion against Pakistan. While continuing to support inter-Afghan dialogue, Islamabad should be prepared for a collapse in Kabul and prolonged Afghan chaos. Fostering an understanding with Iran is essential. Pakistan and Iran can cooperatively normalise their respective parts of Baluchistan and stabilise Afghanistan — unless Iran decides to align itself with India.

Rebuilding a close relationship with Saudi Arabia will restrain Indian penetration in the Gulf. This requires full support to the House Of Saud; it does not require participation in hostile operations against Iran.

Pakistan should continue its diplomatic engagement with the US, although there may be rough times ahead in the relationship.

The Sino-US rivalry is likely to get worse in the near future, given the angry and ugly mood in America, and rising nationalist sentiment in China. Eventually, once China acquires comparable military power, and large parts of Eurasia are incorporated into China’s ‘One Belt, One Road’ economic community, Washington may come to accept coexistence and cooperation with the new superpower.

It may also come to recognise that Pakistan is a critical country whose cooperation is vital to ensure regional stability in south and west Asia, to prevent nuclear non-proliferation, and to and defeat global terrorism. Perhaps then, Washington will respect Pakistan’s legitimate security concerns.

The writer is a former Pakistan ambassador to the UN.

Published in Dawn, April 17th, 2016

http://www.dawn.com/news/1252498/the-indo-us-alliance
 
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The US under the assrahelli and indian influence will never recognize Pakistani security needs. Matter of fact, the US administrations will use their influence in Pakistan to destabilize and weaken Pakistan. The history of US-Pak relation is a witness to this fact. There are those in Pakistan who have vested interest in the US and therefore, they will always deny this. Their task is to portray uncle sam as an important ally.
 
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False alarms being raised. As a matter of fact at present the India US alliance is not even 5% of what US Pakistan alliance is.

Buying some American transport aircrafts do not make India side with USA.

And India isn't going along with USA in South China sea. This has been clarified by our defence minister long back.
 
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RECENTLY, US Defence Secretary Ashton Carter reportedly opened a meeting with senior Pakistani military leaders by declaring: “I must tell you, I am a friend of India.”

The statement, besides being gauche, was superfluous. Carter’s closeness to the Indians is all too evident. The US defence secretary has met four times in the last year with his Indian counterpart, as noted in the joint communiqué issued after his recent visit to India.

Explore: 'We try to be a trusted partner of India', says US Defence Secy

The joint communiqué outlines the vast scope and depth of the present and planned Indo-US military relationship; including co-production of advanced defence articles, joint research on advanced jet engines and aircraft carrier technologies, and strategic cooperation on maritime security.

Most significantly, India endorsed the US stand on the South China Sea islands dispute with China by reaffirming “importance of freedom of navigation and over-flight throughout the region, including in the South China Sea” and vowed support for “a regional security architecture”.

Read more: India, US ‘agree in principle’ to share military logistics

The US alliance with India has obvious and significant negative implications for Pakistan’s security.

The US has opened all military and technology doors to India, and encouraged Israel and other allies to do so as well. For the past eight years, India has been the world’s largest arms importer, buying over $100 billion in weapons each year, two-thirds of which are deployed against Pakistan. Moreover, US military and political support encourages India in its bellicose behaviour towards Pakistan.

It is not merely that Pakistan suffers ‘collateral damage’ from the US arming of India against China. The US has imposed — formally and informally — severe and discriminatory restraints on Pakistan’s acquisition of advanced and dual-use technologies and weapons systems from the US or allied sources.

It opposes Pakistan’s defensive responses to India’s build-up: fissile material production, theatre nuclear weapons and long-range missiles. Pressure has even been exerted on China not to transfer advanced weaponry and technologies to Pakistan. Unless this dynamic is changed, Pakistan’s capabilities for conventional defence and nuclear deterrence against India could be significantly eroded.

The latest confirmation of the Indo-US alliance comes at a time when Pakistan’s limited convergence with the US on Afghanistan may be fading. According to Indian press reports, Ashton Carter conveyed to the Indians that the US has given up on Pakistan’s cooperation to stabilise Afghanistan, and wants India to play a larger role there.

The US alliance with India has negative implications for Pakistan’s security.
Worse, the US appears to be encouraging closer ties between India and the GCC states, especially Saudi Arabia, which Modi’s visited recently. There may be an Iranian gambit as well. Given India’s close relations with Iran and informal US-Iranian cooperation against the militant Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria, collaboration between the US, India and Iran to ‘stabilise’ Afghanistan cannot be ruled out.

Pakistan must formulate a well-considered and calibrated military and diplomatic response to these adverse developments. Capitulation is not an option. India’s treatment of Nepal, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh should be a lesson against acceptance of Indian hegemony.

Pakistan’s military response will have to be defensive, asymmetrical, and designed to preserve the ability to deter and repel a conventional Indian attack, and the credibility of nuclear deterrence.

To break up a large Indian surprise attack (projected by the Cold Start doctrine), Pakistan can multiply its short-range, conventional missile capabilities. Air defence can also be best assured by anti-aircraft and ballistic missile defence systems. On the sea, Pakistan cannot afford expensive aircraft carriers; its defence will have to rely on submarines, large numbers of fast missile boats, and anti-submarine warfare capabilities.

To maintain credible nuclear deterrence and dissuade a pre-emptive enemy strike, Pakistan needs to continue to multiply its short, medium and long-range missile capabilities. Ultimately, the deployment of nuclear submarine-based missiles offers the most credible second strike option.

And, so long as India persists in its reported support for the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan, and the Balochi Liberation Army, Pakistan would be unwise to give up the option of supporting the legitimate struggle of the Kashmiri people for freedom and self-determination.

Pakistan’s diplomacy will have to be dynamic and imaginative.

Strategic cooperation with China will remain critical. Just as the US is willing to share cutting-edge military technologies with India, China should be expected to share its most advanced weapons systems with Pakistan, including nuclear submarines, stealth aircraft, and its anti-aircraft carrier missiles.

Pakistan also needs to do much more to enhance military and diplomatic cooperation with Russia, which is locked in a new Cold War with the US, displeased with India’s embrace of America, and much closer to China. Several Russian weapons systems — the S300 anti-ballistic missile and the SU-31 fighter-bomber — are among the best in class.

In Afghanistan, Pakistan should clearly draw its ‘red lines’: no Indian military presence or use of Afghan territory for subversion against Pakistan. While continuing to support inter-Afghan dialogue, Islamabad should be prepared for a collapse in Kabul and prolonged Afghan chaos. Fostering an understanding with Iran is essential. Pakistan and Iran can cooperatively normalise their respective parts of Baluchistan and stabilise Afghanistan — unless Iran decides to align itself with India.

Rebuilding a close relationship with Saudi Arabia will restrain Indian penetration in the Gulf. This requires full support to the House Of Saud; it does not require participation in hostile operations against Iran.

Pakistan should continue its diplomatic engagement with the US, although there may be rough times ahead in the relationship.

The Sino-US rivalry is likely to get worse in the near future, given the angry and ugly mood in America, and rising nationalist sentiment in China. Eventually, once China acquires comparable military power, and large parts of Eurasia are incorporated into China’s ‘One Belt, One Road’ economic community, Washington may come to accept coexistence and cooperation with the new superpower.

It may also come to recognise that Pakistan is a critical country whose cooperation is vital to ensure regional stability in south and west Asia, to prevent nuclear non-proliferation, and to and defeat global terrorism. Perhaps then, Washington will respect Pakistan’s legitimate security concerns.

The writer is a former Pakistan ambassador to the UN.

Published in Dawn, April 17th, 2016

http://www.dawn.com/news/1252498/the-indo-us-alliance

The ambassador is right that there will be collateral damage if USA props India against China. The real damage will be economic. An economically powerful India will be immune to Pakistani-Chinese pressure.

" It may also come to recognise that Pakistan is a critical country whose cooperation is vital to ensure regional stability in south and west Asia, to prevent nuclear non-proliferation, and to and defeat global terrorism. Perhaps then, Washington will respect Pakistan’s legitimate security concerns."

this sounds blackmail ...
 
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I think (wrong or right) 1- USA want to be come to know about the power of India ( which was secret from USA since 1947) due to USSR relation with India during cold war.
2- Is India capable for the war against China.
3- How to defeat China by India.
4- How to start war between India and China.
otherwise Black milling.
Then USA will attention to Pakistan.
 
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False alarms being raised. As a matter of fact at present the India US alliance is not even 5% of what US Pakistan alliance is.

Buying some American transport aircrafts do not make India side with USA.

And India isn't going along with USA in South China sea. This has been clarified by our defence minister long back.

Is it not a fact that india has allowed the US armed forces to use the bases and ports in india? What are the military benefits india is getting from the indo-US nuclear treaty? Arms trade is only part of the pie, if it wasn't so significant Congress and communist parties wouldn't be so upset. Must I quote what they have been saying about it?
 
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Writing in all bold or all Caps doesn't make a point strong.

Does using certain font or say regular font make a point stronger? Where did I claim that using bold fonts make my points stronger? Stop putting words in people's mouth, it's not your Nazi headquarters if you have the brain to understand what I mean.


and definitely not a very readable presentation. No its not a fact ......... even if it does whats wrong in that? US got bases in Pakistan, does it matter to India? Its more like a nervousness of losing and old powerful ally than anything in real terms.

You say it's not a fact and then you say what's wrong if it is. Yes, it's clear what a great defender of truth you are.
 
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Key points of LSA.
-US will share technological info to india for preparing of defense industries in india.
-South China Sea collaboration.
-Arming India through aircrafts and missiles.
-Control over Indian ocean.
-keep a check on CPEC and China Pak relations.
-Building indian influence in middle eastern countries.

How to handle it.
-Keep a good and warm relations to US so that we can milk as much as we can.
-Speed up the process of CPEC and other projects.
-maintain and develop more relations with middle east and GCC so that no space available to anyone.
-Emphasize in gwadar and navy and air force as much as our budget allows to.
-Convince Iran to make gwadar and chahbahr a twin cities under chinese investment if china agrees.
-build health relations with malaysia and indonesia to keep an eye on indian ocean.
-economy and indigenous defence must be a priority.
-LSA agreement will put Russia in backfoot so there will be huge opportunity in Russia and Pakistan relations through coopperation in defense and other industries
-allow CARs states and Russia to trade through gwadar and let their interest LINK with CPEC and gwadar.
-must build a huge defense base industries in baluchistan and kpk bordering western neighbours so that SECOND strike capability BASES must be operational as we know in war scenario cases punjab and sindh will be highly effected and can be destroyed.
-can do everything to make afghanistan in favor of Pakistan.
 
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I think (wrong or right) 1- USA want to be come to know about the power of India ( which was secret from USA since 1947) due to USSR relation with India during cold war.
2- Is India capable for the war against China.
3- How to defeat China by India.
4- How to start war between India and China.
otherwise Black milling.
Then USA will attention to Pakistan.

why bother ??
pakistan is too small to attack China

Key points of LSA.
-US will share technological info to india for preparing of defense industries in india.
-South China Sea collaboration.
-Arming India through aircrafts and missiles.
-Control over Indian ocean.
-keep a check on CPEC and China Pak relations.
-Building indian influence in middle eastern countries.

How to handle it.
-Keep a good and warm relations to US so that we can milk as much as we can.
-Speed up the process of CPEC and other projects.
-maintain and develop more relations with middle east and GCC so that no space available to anyone.
-Emphasize in gwadar and navy and air force as much as our budget allows to.
-Convince Iran to make gwadar and chahbahr a twin cities under chinese investment if china agrees.
-build health relations with malaysia and indonesia to keep an eye on indian ocean.
-economy and indigenous defence must be a priority.
-LSA agreement will put Russia in backfoot so there will be huge opportunity in Russia and Pakistan relations through coopperation in defense and other industries
-allow CARs states and Russia to trade through gwadar and let their interest LINK with CPEC and gwadar.
-must build a huge defense base industries in baluchistan and kpk bordering western neighbours so that SECOND strike capability BASES must be operational as we know in war scenario cases punjab and sindh will be highly effected and can be destroyed.
-can do everything to make afghanistan in favor of Pakistan.

even with Chinese help Pakistan will lose ground against US-Indian alliance
 
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How to handle it.
-Keep a good and warm relations to US so that we can milk as much as we can.
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As you try to milk them they are milking you. The question is who's shrewder? Definitely uncla sam has way more experience in it and therefore, it's safe to assume that somehow uncle sam has more points than Pakistan and that means, in the end Pakistan is the loser. Just one example should be enough: we know that Pakistan has the capability to develop an ICBM but it has refrained from developing so because of pressure from the US. The question is what has Pakistan got in return? Whatever Pakistan has received in return, is it worth the risk? Remember, it takes a long time to develop and deploy a weapon like ICBM. Will Pakistan get the time to deploy sufficient number of it in time if uncle sam ever decides to attack Pakistan's nuclear installations? I know you can say that uncle sam will never do that but don't you think this kind of presumption is very dangerous in a world where we live? I hope Pakistani politicians and generals have correctly made their calculations because definitely the US top dogs have their own calculations and usually their calculations are correct. This is why Hitler lost, Japan lost and finally the USSR lost. Their calculations were all wrong, it's not that they didn't have the opportunity to defeat their conquerors.

Seriously are you that dumb! What I said was that you are writing it in all bold and it looks very terrible and not very readable, I cant believe I have to explain it!

How childish! I told you its not a fact, and even when it become in future whats wrong in it? If you had something about that argument say it, dont judge my character about being "great defender of truth or lie", leave it on that almighty. If you have something to counter it say that.

Stop your Nazi salutes. You still didn't get it, did you? Stop telling others what 'looks' terrible and what looks 'nice' and if you have problem reading bold letters see a doctor. Enough of your fascist technique of twisting and lying. This is not your Nazi headquarters. You know what, another indian guy posted the same news but you didn't say anything to him. Where were you? Oh yeah, you missed his thread but somehow mine caught your attention, right? Stop wearing saris and dancing like a shemale infront of your indian buddies.
 
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It doesn't matter even if you shit on this forum, what do I have to lose in it? Most forums ban ALL CAPS and ALL BOLDS, may be rules are different here. Keep tying doesn't matter to me. BTW did you eat something German in breakfast?

Do you think we give a damn what a Nazi says?
 
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Is it not a fact that india has allowed the US armed forces to use the bases and ports in india? What are the military benefits india is getting from the indo-US nuclear treaty? Arms trade is only part of the pie, if it wasn't so significant Congress and communist parties wouldn't be so upset. Must I quote what they have been saying about it?
and its our duty to inform Bangladeshi about our deals with USA ! duh
 
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