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The honest captain myth :Hoodboy

It's very simple.

Hoodhboy types firstly use the mirage of liberal democracy. History has extremely few examples of parliamentary democracies delivering development to unstable, poor states like Pakistan.

Asia's biggest success stories (China, which has the largest GDP by far, and Singapore, which has the highest GDP per capita) are both illiberal. China is a one-party state that does not implement political equality and egalitarianism. It is the economic, tech, education leader of Asia and may soon surpass the US in key R&D, if it hasn't already. Singapore was authoritarian and Lee Kuan Yew, the Cambridge-education visionary, knew that meritocracy was the real key to success, not liberal democracy. He hugely curtailed the rights and privileges of opposition politicians, throwing many in jail on flimsy charges and not allowing serious criticism. The result: Singapore, despite being poor, small, and lacking any meaningful natural resources, has a higher GDP per capita today than its colonial master, Britain.

Crucially, the Western states have had a set of very specific circumstances since WWII that have allowed the flourishing of the principles that Hoodhboy-types want. They built themselves up through extractive wealth from the colonies and slave labor, are geographically blessed, and are part of defense pacts like the NATO bloc --- women and black people couldn't even vote in the US for the first few hundred years of its history! Their neighbors are generally friendly and they have achieved basic levels of education, healthcare, etc., for their people. In short, they have a surplus of power and security that allows liberal democracy to work as intended. There are prerequisites to things like totally free speech and individual liberty. Developing nations have not achieved them.

Adrian Woolbridge, an Oxford historian and editor of The Economist, also points to the fact that it is NOT the presence of a strong democracy or parliamentary representation, etc., that guarantees development, growth, and progress. It is the presence of meritocracy.

Finally, Hoodhboy types are wholly ignorant of genuine security threats. Make peace with India sounds like a great utopian dream, but India is ruled by a rabid supremacist ideology and they will continue to kill your people as the deterrence deficit increases. Peace is achieved through strength, deterrence, and denial. Without deterrence, as every single realist international relations thinker will tell you, there can be no stability and therefore peace. Especially when there's an asymmetry in power dynamics, like we have with India, deterrence MUST take hold at ALL levels of the threat escalation ladder (e.g., from proxy warfare at the low end to MAD at the strategic level). It currently does not. There is no conception of peace without achieving this first. But, of course, libs don't get it.

In short, Hoodhboy's arguments, while parroting some of the pet themes of Western liberalism, are wholly devoid of any merit given Pakistan's context. He should also recall that the West doesn't actually give a SHIT about any one of this. They are happy to sell billions in arms to Saudi Arabia, a repressive monarchy with zero democracy, and the CIA has an illustrious history of removing democratically-elected leaders to appoint dictatorial pawns. This is in declassified documents; not vague conspiracy theories. It is also these same liberal democracies who happily cheer the Israeli occupation of Palestine and India's occupation of J&K despite blatant, obvious oppression and violence. The same ones who will attack Iraq for literally no reason, and nobody gets punished for it. The same ones who use black sites around the world to torture prisoners, many of whom were held with no evidence! And then they lecture us. And they convince libtards that this system can deliver development to a country like ours? It cannot.

Western concepts of human rights are weaponized and used as tools of control, not genuine demands. This is why the democratic West never invades Saudi Arabia to 'free the people' and give them democracy, nor does it free the Palestinians from a UNSC-recognized occupation that the Human Rights Watch/Amnesty essentially calls an apartheid. Both get lavish US weaponry. Finally, the US has less democracy than Pakistan (even constitutionally): no member of the cabinet (minister equivalent, if you will) needs to be elected. The US President is free to appoint technocrats and competent people to head each institution. In Pakistan, they need to be MNAs. How can this system work when most MNAs have zero competence to run anything and are just populist clowns? Finally, much of US policy is made by unelected power elites, like the NSC staff. These are some of the biggest nat sec and foreign policy decisions, and no elected member is involved with them.

If you are still unconvinced, we can agree to disagree :)

Much better essayists than I have totally dismantled the myth of liberal democracy in some of the world's top publications:






@SQ8 @SaadH @313ghazi @Bravo6ix

Unfortunately, I don't have enough energy and time to answer your long post.

Yes, dictators like Stalin and Mao also brought a lot of progress at cost of human rights. But this is not right.

And it is unfair to call that all democratic countries looted in order to prosper.

We also have the example of Japan and Germany and South Korea who didn't loot any country, but followed the Secular Democratic system, and still got huge progress.

Dictatorship in China will become a problem for whole world one day. Singapore never allowed others to get citizenship off Singapore.

Heck, even Modi is on way to bring development and progress to India, nevertheless, at cost of worsening condition of Muslim community and getting full control of Indian held Kashmir.

And the last point is, the objections by the writer upon Imran Khan had nothing to do with all this.
 
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@Imran Khan

Imran Khan sb,

he better talk about nut bolts of nuclear

Does Da Hood know anything about physics? Nothing about him suggests that he does.

Regards
 
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Not a single Daleel by Imran Khan supporters in answering the objections, that have been raised by the writer.

All what we are hearing from Imran's supporters are allegations of Ghadaar.

Imran visited Russia but is he regretting it and go back to the Western camp because the OP has this ?
He has already revealed his strategy for the forthcoming elections: whip up xenophobic nationalism; mobilise the religious sentiment that he helped generate through encouraging TLP’s anti-France anti-blasphemy agitations; and turn Pakistani against Pakistani.


Heck, even Modi is on way to bring development and progress to India, nevertheless, at cost of worsening condition of Muslim community and getting full control of Indian held Kashmir.

Oh, Modi has not brought a single development in the eight years of his rule. He is all about Hindutvad and getting photographed and having his name plastered on everything including the COVID vaccination certificate ( but not on COVID death certificate ). Below is my thread from a few days ago :

Among many of Modi's other "miracles" seven hundred farmers died of various causes during the year-long farmers protests in Delhi and they died because Modi was stubbornly refusing to listen to the farmers' demand to repeal some agriculture laws.

Q. What do you do when you fail as a physicist?
A. Pimp yourself out for a few dollars to trash Muslims, Pakistan, traditional women, Pakistani military, etc, etc,

Traditional women as in the heroines of South Asian tragic love stories or traditional women as in the naqabposhs ?

So-called 'physicist' discusses the ideology of Pakistan

The author is DUNGAR doctor not a professor which he used to known about

Why should a physicist talk only about physics ? ATM I work on ideas in computing, politics, socio-economics, transportation, electricity production etc.

His intentions are bad, because if you look into his work closely, he simply isn't biased. For example, he loves to mention Pakistan's proxy warfare (groups like LeT) against India, but will hardly EVER mention India's proxy warfare against Pakistan. In fact, Pakistan has lost more people to India-backed terrorism.

Therefore, all such self-appointed liberal democratic sellouts lose my respect. They are hypocritical clowns.

What is the meaning of your member name ?
 
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Dawn ...... the very best Indian newspaper published in Pakistan.
It has been an anti-Imran Khan echo-chamber and you can clearly see the same in the comments section.

I don't disagree with everything PHB (a leftist cynic) writes, but a lot of it is glossing over the dirt that has existed before IK came into power. He accuses IK for wanting power, however conveniently leaves out the lust for power of the Zardaris and the Sharifs.

I stopped reading this rag many months ago preferring The Express Tribune. The Nation/TFT are a lost cause given they are so close to the Sharif family.
 
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Excellent article by Hoody, Niazi is losing popularity anyway but most importantly he is now losing respect in all circles.
 
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Confuse Confused GIF - Confuse Confused Indian GIFs
 
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Only elections will tell that and I doubt the other side wants to wager on that.

You reckon he will enjoy same level of support as he had it in 2018 elections? Who will give him money? JKT and Aleem Khan they are gone. He lost half of his party already, out of 80 remaining MNA’s he will win max 25-30 seats. Most importantly what he is going to sell?

- Naya Pakistan, flopped
- He said he will finish corruption in 90 days but it’s opposite in his tenure.
-67% Pakistanis refused to accept his letter-gate story.
-IMF and carrying begging bowl

There are countless other examples. It’s really unfortunate the way he ended his political career, he is finished.
 
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WITH the no-confidence motion to be voted upon today (Saturday) by a parliament restored on the Supreme Court’s order, Prime Minister Imran Khan’s stint in power could be over by midday. But even if that transpires, the cricket captain and his cult are out to create chaos in the weeks and months ahead. For his devotees, he is the only honest and sincere politician in Pakistan and must be followed.

Cults — political and religious — can be long-lived and deadly dangerous. In 1978, devoted groupies followed Jim Jones, their discredited leader, in a mass suicide that claimed 909 lives, including 304 children. More to the point: Donald Trump spent four disastrous years in office and assaulted American democracy, but he is still adored by simple-minded Americans from the Bible Belt who cling to their guns and religion.

Building on his cricketing success and cancer hospital, Imran Khan worked relentlessly for decades at self-promotion. His growing cult swallowed story after story: corruption would end in 90 days; the national treasury would overflow once ‘looted dollars’ stashed by political rivals in secret overseas accounts were brought back. Never again, he said, would Pakistan see the dirty politics of horse trading.

Naya Pakistan would overflow with milk and honey — Khan would “commit suicide but never return to the IMF”; foreign policy would be based upon principle rather than expediency; the world’s most sought-after passport would become the green one; and Pakistan would turn into a tourist haven. Jobs would be aplenty, the justice system would be overhauled, civil service officers appointed purely on merit, and the police system revamped. Emigrants, said Khan, would choose Naya Pakistan over Europe and America.

Well-meaning overseas Pakistanis, desperate for good news from their ex-country, lapped it up. But the reality turned out starkly different.

Just months after winning a bitterly disputed election, Khan’s government requested the IMF for a loan. Critical dependency on the United States was traded for equal dependency upon China. Today, the Pakistani passport is no more desirable than before and the only foreign tourists are intrepid mountain climbers. In January 2022, Transparency International announced that perceptions of corruption had taken a quantum leap. As for looted billions returning: sure, keep dreaming! Meanwhile, the dollar has gone through the roof.
Horse-trading politics got a boost once Khan decided that “electable” candidates would be preferred over principled candidates. Although he now admits “mistakes”, the future may be no different. In a desperate move, the Punjab chief minister — apparently chosen by his first lady and praised sky-high by Khan until two weeks ago — has just been thrown under the bus. His replacement, handpicked by Khan himself, was once derided by Khan as a scumbag.

To save his sinking ship, Captain Khan has invented the cock-and-bull story of an American conspiracy to oust him. This, he said, owes to his independent stand on Ukraine. So why hasn’t Narendra Modi — also ambivalent on Russia’s aggression — alleged the same? Khan’s groupies cannot explain why this weeks-old ‘revelation’ came only after a no-confidence motion threatened his survival.
What makes cults so attractive and cultists so impervious to factual evidence and reason? Why do so many people set aside good sense and worship leaders? Of course, some followers do quit when the truth becomes ugly enough. But for others even that doesn’t happen. The herd instinct, reluctance to admit a past mistake, or continued attachment to some utopic vision still keeps some going.

Anthropologists have related the degree of cultic affiliation to the perceived uncertainty within an environment. For example, they find that rougher seas make fishermen engage in more elaborate magic rituals. Correspondingly, Pakistan’s lack of a shared national purpose creates space for putschists and captains who promise to steer the ship of state out of stormy waters. Reason and rationality are temporarily suspended lest they undermine faith, unity and discipline.
Military interventions that debilitated democracy paved the way for fix-all miracle magic men like Imran Khan. The broken idols of other wannabe messiahs with fanatical followings litter the political landscape. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, Benazir Bhutto, Altaf Husain, and Maulana Fazlullah also had sophisticated urbanites among their followers. This happened even before the invention of social media, but technology has created virtually impenetrable silos of political groupthink.

Today, one particular belief sits securely in a nuclear-protected bunker and may survive even the no-confidence vote. Common wisdom is that all opposition leaders are money-hungry cheats and Khan, even with his shortcomings, is clean as a whistle. Correct? After all, it is commonly held that all opposition politicians are venal, even if there is disagreement on which is the more corrupt one.

Imran Khan wins out on this. Chasing money is not his first priority. Of course, opponents do point to his magnificent Banigala palace, high-style living, minimal payment of personal taxes, and the doubts raised by the ECP regarding PTI’s foreign funding. These are minor sins. But it is Khan’s insatiable lust for power that makes him truly dangerous for this country. While money fattens individuals, absolute power brings catastrophe. Donald Trump wanted both money and power but Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot craved only the latter.

If parliament dismisses Khan, how will he rally his followers again? He has already revealed his strategy for the forthcoming elections: whip up xenophobic nationalism; mobilise the religious sentiment that he helped generate through encouraging TLP’s anti-France anti-blasphemy agitations; and turn Pakistani against Pakistani. Pro-Khan people are patriots, those against him are traitors, and fence sitters are, in his words, mere animals.

If Imran Khan is voted out of power today, Pakistan will have won a temporary victory. However, its larger interest demands that all political parties obey rules and the Constitution. They must embrace democracy and pluralism, and cease pursuing narrow interests. Aggression and hate propagation, use of foul language, and denigration of women and religious minorities should have no role to play in politics. Instead, live and let live. Let reason and rationality take precedence over blind faith in leaders.

The writer is an Islamabad-based physicist and writer.

Published in Dawn, April 9th, 2022



Yes and the three stooges are honest and competent

Hold my keema naan …

You reckon he will enjoy same level of support as he had it in 2018 elections? Who will give him money? JKT and Aleem Khan they are gone. He lost half of his party already, out of 80 remaining MNA’s he will win max 25-30 seats. Most importantly what he is going to sell?

- Naya Pakistan, flopped
- He said he will finish corruption in 90 days but it’s opposite in his tenure.
-67% Pakistanis refused to accept his letter-gate story.
-IMF and carrying begging bowl

There are countless other examples. It’s really unfortunate the way he ended his political career, he is finished.

Not really .. it just started
 
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Why should a physicist talk only about physics ? ATM I work on ideas in computing, politics, socio-economics, transportation, electricity production etc.
You just work on ideas of which you are not master just speculates. You could only be brilliant in your own profession. Definitely, you could not do the Ph.D. on the house fly or a mosquito.

When a 'physicist' could not contribute a thing to his specialized field, then he try to be 'jack of all'. That is the dilemma of this 'physicist'.

According to your logic, the world could be full of people, who could be at a time a 'neurosurgeon/economist/farmer/zookeeper - Dear life is so short even you could not be a master in your own profession.

This 'Hoodbuy' life in this world is like a particle in 'Brownian motion'.
 
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Hoodboy is a known atheist and is openly against Islam, all these enemies of Islam want to remove Imran Khan and Islam from Pakistan and make it a complete slave Nation.
Israrlis are mostly atheist yet highly patriotic people who defend their racist apartheid jewish theological and fascist state to no end. Why are Pakistani khooni liberals so uniquely different in the world
 
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A lot of Imran's promises as listed by the author here sounds like what Modi promised his own gullible followers in India :laugh:
 
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Israrlis are mostly atheist yet highly patriotic people who defend their racist apartheid jewish theological and fascist state to no end. Why are Pakistani khooni liberals so uniquely different in the world

Your last sentence has been the topic of discussion among some (tiny minority) of 'normal' Pakistanis left.

It's a unique form of post-colonial cognitive slavery that has never been challenged with a competing vision (e.g., China sourced values from Confucian virtues, called its recent history a 'Century of Humiliation,' etc.; India is experimenting with supremacist nationalism; Singapore started worshipping ruthless meritocracy, etc.)

We left Islam to laissez-faire decentralization and really didn't implement any compelling alternative to the post-colonial (institutional and intellectual) status quo that we inherited.

This reflects most sharply onto Pakistan's relationship with talent and the idea of excellence. Israel goes to extreme lengths to attract and retain the very best talent in the entire nation to government service. They have a number of early talent identification programs, etc etc etc.
 
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You reckon he will enjoy same level of support as he had it in 2018 elections? Who will give him money? JKT and Aleem Khan they are gone. He lost half of his party already, out of 80 remaining MNA’s he will win max 25-30 seats. Most importantly what he is going to sell?

- Naya Pakistan, flopped
- He said he will finish corruption in 90 days but it’s opposite in his tenure.
-67% Pakistanis refused to accept his letter-gate story.
-IMF and carrying begging bowl

There are countless other examples. It’s really unfortunate the way he ended his political career, he is finished.
Ok let's say I agree with everything you state here except the last part.

Do you think the other side has anything better to offer? When picking the lesser of the two evils, there is a significant chance people will vote for IK unless things are rigged to the extreme. At a personal level, he is not financially corrupt and in a country like Pakistan, that in itself is an oddity.

As to who will give money to him, what do you think the overseas Pakistanis will do? $30B coming into the nation's coffers can do a lot for the PTI/IK campaign.

When you say "he is finished", Zardaris and Sharif's have had far worse obituaries written for them and yet they are still around. This is Pakistan! If we can elect a thief 3 times over, we can surely elect IK twice.
 
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