The Five Most-Powerful Navies on the Planet

[Shinigami]

What you want to proof with a 40years old video? India professionalism is way sub standard. The fact they can blow up a sub in 2013 becos of lack of clear procedures clearly expose indian navy short comings when comes to training and maintenance.

PLAN budget is second only to US and money counts when comes to maintenance and training.

pleez 1 indian sub blew up at port killing 8 people while 1 chinese sub sank killing all on board. what does that say about chinese "professionalism"

 

[Beast]

pleez 1 indian sub blew up at port killing 8 people while 1 chinese sub sank killing all on board. what does that say about chinese "professionalism"

You want to use an incident happen 10 years ago compare to a recent happen indian sub incident to gauge current standard? If by your theory, indian navy is a forever blow up fleet becos after 20 years, I will still use this try ilustrate the point?

Try harder. PLAN fleet is accident free from the pass 3 years

 

[Shinigami]

You want to use an incident happen 10 years ago compare to a recent happen indian sub incident to gauge current standard? If by your theory, indian navy is a forever blow up fleet becos after 20 years, I will still use this try ilustrate the point?

Try harder. PLAN fleet is accident free from the pass 3 years

dont lie. the difference was barely a few years
morover, the chinese sub accident (all hands drownded) was a lot more serious than the one happened in india.

and the worst part is, most of the information is tightly controlled in your country. i wouldnt be surprised if in reality,1 sub sinks a year in china

 

[Shotgunner51]

dont lie. the difference was barely a few years
morover, the chinese sub accident (all hands drownded) was a lot more serious than the one happened in india.

and the worst part is, most of the information is tightly controlled in your country. i wouldnt be surprised if in reality,1 sub sinks a year in china

Yawn ... see the rank kid ... the rank
Oooops no Indian Navy? ....
They must have missed India, this must be the list of best navies in Europe + E Asia + N America ... oh sleep better now ....
Or is it that IN sucks big time? No way, we are the supapawa ...

 

[tanlixiang28776]

All I've seen from these threads mentioning best navies in Asia is that

A.Indians Navy is not included in any of these lists
B.90% of posts are Indians arguing why they are the best and should be included or consolation wise why China should not be included.
C.Get a life kids you get on lists when people recognize you. No amount of advertising the Indian navy will get you on any lists and no amount of bitching about the Chinese navy is going to get it off the lists.

As I've stated before the truly powerful do not need to tell others that they are because everyone already knows. The weak no matter how much they shout otherwise will always fall on deaf ears cause everyone knows they're full of hot air.

 

[Echo_419]

It's very meaningful.
Firstly, there are >190 nations on this planet, majority of them have naval forces. The presence of a superpower navy (I mean USN) doesn't mean all others have no meaning of existence.
Secondly, you just mentioned scenarios that can be classified as regional defense capability, power projection capability, and yes these capabilities among others differ between navies, i.e. not same, hence naturally there is a rank.


Against IN yes
Against PLAN no


No


Possibly, depends on who PLAN is fighting with.

Satisfied?

Please tell me how UK will win a war with IN in it's own backyard

What you want to proof with a 40years old video? India professionalism is way sub standard. The fact they can blow up a sub in 2013 becos of lack of clear procedures clearly expose indian navy short comings when comes to training and maintenance.

PLAN budget is second only to US and money counts when comes to maintenance and training.

Fact is your navy is yet to perform such a thing which we did 40 years ago

 

[Shinigami]

Yawn ... see the rank kid ... the rank
Oooops no Indian Navy? ....
They must have missed India, this must be the list of best navies in Europe + E Asia + N America ... oh sleep better now ....
Or is it that IN sucks big time? No way, we are the supapawa ...

All I've seen from these threads mentioning best navies in Asia is that

A.Indians Navy is not included in any of these lists
B.90% of posts are Indians arguing why they are the best and should be included or consolation wise why China should not be included.
C.Get a life kids you get on lists when people recognize you. No amount of advertising the Indian navy will get you on any lists and no amount of bitching about the Chinese navy is going to get it off the lists.

As I've stated before the truly powerful do not need to tell others that they are because everyone already knows. The weak no matter how much they shout otherwise will always fall on deaf ears cause everyone knows they're full of hot air.

i had made a reply on another thread that seems apt here

you know what? you ladies are right.

the newly built chinese navy which has proved its match against vietnamese and Filipino fishing boats is waay better than the indian navy which has only sunk destroyers, frigates, subs, bombed ports and airports using aircraft carriers, and has the best kill ratio in the planet. But chinese navy can take on fishing boats. WOW thats a whole new level, because fanboy lists say so.

i mean.... what was i even thinking?

Please tell me how UK will win a war with IN in it's own backyard



Fact is your navy is yet to perform such a thing which we did 40 years ago

you may find this interesting

While recent years have witnessed atremendous Chinese propaganda effortaimed at convincing the world that the PRC is a serious military player that is owed respect, outsiders often forget that China does not even have a professional military.The PLA, unlike the armed forces of the United States, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and other regional heavyweights, is by definition not a professional fighting force. Rather, it is a “party army,” the armed wing of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Indeed, all career officers in the PLA are members of the CCP and all units at the company level and above have political officers assigned to enforce party control. Likewise, all important decisions in the PLA are made by Communist Party committees that are dominated by political officers, not by operators. This system ensures that the interests of the party’s civilian and military leaders are merged, and for this reason new Chinese soldiers entering into the PLA swear their allegiance to the CCP, not to the PRC constitution or the people of China.

China’s Deceptively Weak (and Dangerous) Military | The Diplomat

 

[Shotgunner51]

i had made a reply on another thread that seems apt here

you know what? you ladies are right.

the newly built chinese navy which has proved its match against vietnamese and Filipino fishing boats is waay better than the indian navy which has only sunk destroyers, frigates, subs, bombed ports and airports using aircraft carriers, and has the best kill ratio in the planet. But chinese navy can take on fishing boats. WOW thats a whole new level, because fanboy lists say so.

i mean.... what was i even thinking?

you may find this interesting

China’s Deceptively Weak (and Dangerous) Military | The Diplomat

Oh thanks my lady, what takes you so long to admit that we are in fact right about everything?

Wow kiss the serious navy rank good bye and start an all-new fishing boats shooting rank? Lovely idea my dear.
OK, I admit IN tops this time, remember shooting a Thai fishing boat? More fun is that it was mistaken as a Somali pirate ship? ...
You can have all of it my dear, the trophy is yours, bravo, well done. ...
PLAN failed to compare. Yes fact is: PRC Marine Police did shoot FP and VM fishing boats, intentionally, not by mistake. So my lady wanna start a rank comparing what?

Oh yes I find it interesting, you don't like ranks comparing Asian Navies or World Navies, but like that article pure about China? You hate ranks?
And just a fact: IN can't been in any of those, ranks or whatever.
Oh people just don't care oh poor IN. ...
Maybe you can start an article "India's obviously weak (and negligible) military", yeah India throughout the article. ...

LMAO ... Yawn ...

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

i had made a reply on another thread that seems apt here

you know what? you ladies are right.

the newly built chinese navy which has proved its match against vietnamese and Filipino fishing boats is waay better than the indian navy which has only sunk destroyers, frigates, subs, bombed ports and airports using aircraft carriers, and has the best kill ratio in the planet. But chinese navy can take on fishing boats. WOW thats a whole new level, because fanboy lists say so.

i mean.... what was i even thinking?

The article in the OP is from an American newspaper (the National Interest) and written by a Japanese author.

Now explain to me how the Hell could that mean a pro-Chinese bias in their rankings.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Please tell me how UK will win a war with IN in it's own backyard

You can't fight your boss, or ex-boss

Fact is your navy is yet to perform such a thing which we did 40 years ago

Who care whether IN dance Bharatanatyam or cook curry on decks or whatever 1000 years ago?
Just not in the league.
See the rank.

 

[Echo_419]

You can't fight your boss, or ex-boss



Who care whether IN dance Bharatanatyam or cook curry on decks or whatever 1000 years ago?
Just not in the league.
See the rank.

Can you come up with a better excuse becuz the 1st part is pure Bull Shit

Fact us your navy has not been able to perform a thing which we did 40 years ago,now go & ear noodles

Oh thanks my lady, what takes you so long to admit that we are in fact right about everything?

Wow kiss the serious navy rank good bye and start an all-new fishing boats shooting rank? Lovely idea my dear.
OK, I admit IN tops this time, remember shooting a Thai fishing boat? More fun is that it was mistaken as a Somali pirate ship? ...
You can have all of it my dear, the trophy is yours, bravo, well done. ...
PLAN failed to compare. Yes fact is: PRC Marine Police did shoot FP and VM fishing boats, intentionally, not by mistake. So my lady wanna start a rank comparing what?

Oh yes I find it interesting, you don't like ranks comparing Asian Navies or World Navies, but like that article pure about China? You hate ranks?
And just a fact: IN can't been in any of those, ranks or whatever.
Oh people just don't care oh poor IN. ...
Maybe you can start an article "India's obviously weak (and negligible) military", yeah India throughout the article. ...

LMAO ... Yawn ...

Argue with facts boy no one is gonna argue with BS

You want to use an incident happen 10 years ago compare to a recent happen indian sub incident to gauge current standard? If by your theory, indian navy is a forever blow up fleet becos after 20 years, I will still use this try ilustrate the point?

Try harder. PLAN fleet is accident free from the pass 3 years

You sir are a communist country & Accidents & Failures are not going to be reported freely like we do
Facts is at the pace at which PLAN is mordenizing there are bound to be some little accidents
Don't you find it odd that the worlds fastest growing navy has not had even 1 minor accident

 

[Shotgunner51]

Can you come up with a better excuse becuz the 1st part is pure Bull Shit

Fact us your navy has not been able to perform a thing which we did 40 years ago,now go & ear noodles

Argue with facts boy no one is gonna argue with BS

You gonna fight your boss? I hope you keep your job however low pay it is.
BTW, he ranks high, you don't.

Who care whether IN dance Bharatanatyam or cook curry on decks or whatever 4000 years ago?
Yawn go chat with Ethiopian navy i.e. those in your league will you? You are not in the rank, boring. Read it.

Wow talk BS now? ... B = cow ... S = dung ... sorry lady that's what you worship. Troll, and off-topic. Whatever about cow excretion start a new thread at Incredible India section.

 

[Beast]

You sir are a communist country & Accidents & Failures are not going to be reported freely like we do
Facts is at the pace at which PLAN is mordenizing there are bound to be some little accidents
Don't you find it odd that the worlds fastest growing navy has not had even 1 minor accident

What a lame excuse you got? We are living in the age of fast connection and globalisation. Even a Chinese fisherman probably got an video camera handphone. If there is any shit happen like an Indian submarine blow up, it cannot be hide from the mass. Even an 5 mins upload on a popular website will result in fast circulation that will be easily pickup by the masses. If by your theory,we could have hide the Ming Submarine incident from the masses since it was discovered by Chinese fisherman in the first place and not by USN intelligence or other foreign sources.

Just becos indian navy has low professionalism does not mean all others shall equal your standard.

PLAN has a much bigger budget that is 3-5times higher than IN. Its no surprisely, better training and maintenance can be provided. Money counts in a capitalism world. And USN being the benchmark of all armed forces has the biggest naval budget follow by PLAN.

 

[AgentOrange]

its not just technology and numbers, its operational procedures and experience, something india has an edge against almost all others for half a century.
also indian navy has the highest kill ratio on the planet

just saw this vid

wait... is youtube blocked in china?

A snippet on the Indian navy's "professionalism" as witnessed first hand by a US naval officer.
This article was from May 2014, so fairly recent.

Indian Navy ship nearly collided with U.S. tanker

"The American officer, a lieutenant, serving on an Arleigh Burke destroyer of the US 7th Fleet, was an exchange officer for five days on the INS Delhi, the Indian flagship that participated in the India-US Malabar naval exercise in the Pacific.

"Their captain was driving the ship when it came within 50 feet of the stern of a USNS replenishment ship and at any given time there were multiple officers on the bridge screaming at each other. They were generally clueless and had almost zero seamanship skills," he claims."

The exchange officer — a surface warfare specialist — took a dim view both of the leadership style and also the fighting capability of the Indian Navy. "They could barely avoid hitting other ships in the middle of the Pacific, I doubt they'd be popping off any rounds (firing ammunition) with any amount of accuracy," he states.

Asked by a reader how he would rate the Indian Navy's chances in war, the officer responded, "I would be surprised if most of their gear worked. The stuff I saw (I got a pretty extensive tour) looked like it fell straight out of the 60s and 70s and I would be genuinely flabbergasted if they got any rounds off... Truthfully, after touring their ship extensively I would be very much surprised if the majority of their armament even successfully fired, let along hit anything."

 

[Shotgunner51]

You sir are a communist country & Accidents & Failures are not going to be reported freely like we do
Facts is at the pace at which PLAN is mordenizing there are bound to be some little accidents
Don't you find it odd that the worlds fastest growing navy has not had even 1 minor accident

Now you "sir" me? That's polite, good girl, now we talk.

No that's not odd, good things happens for good reasons, Beast explained well enough.