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The Chinese Air Force's Super Weapon: Beware the J-11D Fighter

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China has conducted the first test flight of a new, upgraded version of its J-11 fighter jet.

According to Russian media outlets, which cited unnamed Chinese reports, on Wednesday the People’s Liberation Army Air Force conducted the first flight tests of its J-11D fighter aircraft. The plane is an upgraded version of the J-11B fighter jets, which themselves are copies of the Russian-made Sukhoi Su-27.

According to the reports, the new J-11D incorporates a number of technologies from China’s J-16 fighter jets. Both planes are manufactured by the Chinese company, Shenyang Aircraft Corp, and the J-16 is believed to have incorporated some technologies from the J-11. However, the J-16 is a multi-role strike fighter.

Perhaps most notable of the J11-D’s upgrades is that it reportedly incorporates the J-16’s advanced Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar. When the PLAAF first took delivery of the J-16 in April of last year, Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer wrote in Popular Science that:

The most important upgrade to the J-16 is an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, which is more powerful than the slotted array radars that the Su-30 and JH-7A have. The AESA radar allows the J-16 to intercept enemy aircraft at longer ranges than either of its predecessors, and to attack multiple surface targets simultaneously. The AESA radar would also be datalinked to other Chinese platforms, including unmanned vehicles, to increase their situational awareness.

This AESA upgrade significantly enhances the J-11D’s capabilities over those of its predecessors. In fact, pointing to the AESA upgrades, some analysts have said the new J-11Ds could be China’s version of the Sukhoi Su-35s, which is Russia’s most deadly fighter jet. In fact, some U.S. military officials have told The National Interest the F-15C Eagle and Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet “would both have their hands full” in combat against the Su-35.

Besides the AESA radar upgrade, Russia Today reports that the new J-11D uses more composite materials and boasts more air-to-air missiles like the PL-10 and PL-15 than did earlier versions of the plane. It also has a new in-flight refueling arrangement that is similar to the J-15.

Also very notable is that according to some sources, the new J-11D is powered by two WS-10A engines, which are indigenous engines. For all its rapid advances, Chinese aerospace companies have continued to struggle to make high-powered engines that are reliable.
 
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beware of a Su-27 clone that's been around for decades? o_O

An Indian loud-mouthing。Again. :rofl:

Listen dude: it will take India at least another 20 years before it can produce independently a fighter of J-11D's calibre.

So shut up till you Indians can do something similar on your own hook. :D
 
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beware of a Su-27 clone that's been around for decades? o_O

It is a descendant of the Su-27 clone, but not directly a Su-27 clone.

Just like the USAF still has the F-15/16 fleet as the majority, and the F-22 is just the elite in small number.

Imagine the PLAAF in the near future with the J-20 as the elite and the J-11B/D as the large number of infantry, it gonna be a formidable force for anyone, isn't it?
 
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It is a descendant of the Su-27 clone, but not directly a Su-27 clone.

Just like the USAF still has the F-15/16 fleet as the majority, and the F-22 is just the elite in small number.

Imagine the PLAAF in the near future with the J-20 as the elite and the J-11B/D as the large number of infantry, it gonna be a formidable force for anyone, isn't it?


I kinda get your point. Su-27/30/J11 w/e is a formidable platform, but it's cross section is pretty big. I wonder how it would fair against F-35 with Aim-120D/Meteor.
 
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I kinda get your point. Su-27/30/J11 w/e is a formidable platform, but it's cross section is pretty big. I wonder how it would fair against F-35 with Aim-120D/Meteor.

It is the elite of the 4th gen aircraft just like Su-35, but I don't think it is fair to pit it against a 5th gen aircraft with the stealth features. It might not fear against any 5th gen aircraft in a dog fight. However, the 5th gen aircraft will always fight in the sniper mode, so it is not fair.

J-11D has proven that China can absolutely build a Su-35 equivalent fighter with its current existing technology such as the new WS-10G engine (being 140-145kN and comparable to 117S) and the new generation of AESA radar.
 
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I kinda get your point. Su-27/30/J11 w/e is a formidable platform, but it's cross section is pretty big. I wonder how it would fair against F-35 with Aim-120D/Meteor.

its RCS is not bigger than F-15, F-16 or F/A-18, are you saying these aircraft will be obsolete once other fifth-gen aircraft enters service? The US has what the largest number of 4th gen in the world, good luck replacing them all with F-35s.
 
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We do have a lot of air platform, J-10, J-11, J-15, J-16 and soon J-20 and possibly J-31. With various platform, we do have a lot of flexibility in how we want to engage an enemy on the sky. The future is so beautiful!
 
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its RCS is not bigger than F-15, F-16 or F/A-18, are you saying these aircraft will be obsolete once other fifth-gen aircraft enters service? The US has what the largest number of 4th gen in the world, good luck replacing them all with F-35s.

The 4th gen and 5th gen will co-exist together to play the different roles.

The 4th gen is the infantry, while the 5th gen is the elite sniper.
 
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Our Indian friends need to stop getting butthurt, here. LOL Reverse engineer is an art. The US/Soviet reversed Nazi German aircraft technology. In fact, stealth was Nazi Germany invention and the US expand on it. Also, the US reverse engineer Mig-21 during the Korean War because it was so deadly! So I would advice our local Indian friends to stop getting butthurt because India doesn't have that capability to understand how reverse engineer work. Another education for Indian. Reverse engineer is actually not an inferior product. Perhaps, you can say the initial batch might be inferior due to the fact the reverse product initial aim is to understand the original design but not the upgraded version. Upgrade version aim to improve upon the original aircraft potential, otherwise what is the point of reverse engineer?
 
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No such 'fact', son.
Nearly three decades later, a more serious attempt at radar "invisibility" was tried with the Horten Ho 229flying wingfighter-bomber, developed in Nazi Germany during the last years of World War II. In addition to the aircraft's shape, the majority of the Ho 229's wooden skin was bonded together using carbon-impregnated plywoodresins designed with the purported intention of absorbing radar waves. Testing performed in early 2009 by the Northrop-Grumman Corporation established that this compound, along with the aircraft's shape, would have rendered the Ho 229 virtually invisible to the top-end HF-band, 20-30 MHz primary signals of Britain's Chain Homeearly warning radar, provided the aircraft was traveling at high speed (approximately 550 mph (890 km/h)) at extremely low altitude - 50–100 feet (15–30 m).[3]

Horten Ho 229 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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