What's new

The Bonhomme Richard SEVERE DAMAGE Deals a Blow to the US Designs in the Indo-Pacific

Daniel808

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
Nov 24, 2013
Messages
4,960
Reaction score
-8
Country
Indonesia
Location
Indonesia
The Bonhomme Richard fire deals a blow to the Navy’s designs in the Indo-Pacific
By: David B. Larter   4 hours ago

Bonhomme Richard, which burned through the night while in port in San Diego, was at the tail end of two years of upgrades supporting the integration of the F-35B, according to Navy documents.

That means the Navy will now have fewer options to deploy the next-generation fighter in the Pacific.

The Navy awarded the $219 million modernization contract to General Dynamics, National Steel and Shipbuilding Co. in 2018, which had options for up to $250 million. Bonhomme Richard is one of four large-deck amphibs to have received the upgrades. The Boxer was announced earlier this year as the fifth big-deck to get the upgrades.

Experts said the loss of Bonhomme Richard, whether a total loss or just lost for extensive repairs, deals a significant blow to the Navy’s plans to have F-35Bs continually deployed in the Pacific.

The Navy’s deployment model is based on having permanent forward presence in vital regions, such as the Indo-Pacific and the Middle East. To accomplish that, the service needs enough ships to support one forward on deployment, one in an elevated status of readiness to surge in an emergency, one in maintenance and one in pre-deployment workups.

In other words, in an ideal world the Navy would have at least four ships to have one of them always on deployment. But with longer overhauls, such as the F-35B upgrades, it might require five ships to make one forward.

“It’s a big problem, considering the F-35B is the Department of the Navy’s only fielded and deployable 5th Generation generation fighter.” said Bryan Clark, a retired submarine officer and senior fellow at the Hudson Institute “We will want those deployed most of the time.

“Only half of [our 10 amphibious assault ships] are able to carry F-35B and the Marines are looking to reduce their land-based squadrons. So the loss of Bonhomme Richard will impact the Navy’s ability to provide Combatant Commanders sea-based F-35s not subject to host-nation approval.”

4J44BSY6GVFYDBWNEEQN2REZVU.jpeg

The amphibious assault ship Bonhomme Richard continued to burn Monday in San Diego. (Navy)

Jerry Hendrix, a retired Navy captain and analyst with Telemus Group, agreed, saying that the Navy’s posture in the Pacific is going to be challenged with Bonhomme Richard out of the lineup.

“It has a huge impact,” said Jerry Hendrix, a retired Navy captain and analyst with Telemus Group. “Bonhomme Richard has been in this overhaul for two years getting these upgrades to operate F-35Bs. She has about eight more years of life left in the hull, and so she was a central cog in our Pacific operational deployment plan for the next eight-to-10 years.”

The amphibious assault ship Tripoli is slated to be commissioned this month but will have as much as two years of work ups ahead of it, Hendrix noted, adding the Bonhomme Richard was supposed to be back in the rotation after its overhaul by the end of this year.

“This is a big hit in the Navy’s deployment plan over the next 10 years. Obviously we can’t just wave a magic wand and create another one,” Hendrix said.

The Navy could either ask the remaining amphibious assault ships to make longer deployments or it could dip into the inactive reserve fleet and bring back a Tarawa-class LHA to back-fill the capacity.

Bryan McGrath, a retired destroyer skipper and consultant with The Ferrybridge Group, likewise agreed that the fire would deal a blow to the Navy’s deployment plans.

“Obviously first and foremost someone is going to have to take her commitments,” he said. “Secondly, it is going to impact the fleet introduction of the F-35B and what does this do to the timeline that the Navy and Marine Corp were on for the regularization of that aircraft going to sea on that ship?

The fire also has implications for an ongoing effort to more closely align the Navy and Marine Corps in an effort Marine Commandant Gen. David Berger calls “naval integration,” McGrath said.

“There is this larger question of navy and Marine Corps integration that I think may be somewhat slowed by this because of the F-35 issue.”

The damage to the Bonhomme Richard has been extensive from stem to stern, engulfing the well deck, the super structure and the living and working spaces up forward. The forward mast has collapsed onto the superstructure and Expeditionary Strike Group Three commander Rear Adm. Phillip Sobeck told reporters Monday temperatures inside the skin of the ship have reached 1,000 degrees, a point at which steel is losing significant structural strength.

Hendrix guessed that the heat and duration of the fire likely means the ship is lost.

“I don’t think she’s coming back, I think she’ll be struck. I don’t think you have this intensity of heat and fire in a hull and give it a thumbs up

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2...utm_campaign=Socialflow+DFN&utm_medium=social
 
.
.
Navy Officials Fear USS Bonhomme Richard Fire Has Damaged It Beyond Repair
Amphibious assault ship one of the few in U.S. fleet that can launch F-35 operations


The USS Bonhomme Richard caught fire while docked at a naval base in San Diego.
PHOTO: CHRISTINA ROSS/U.S. NAVY/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES
By
Updated July 13, 2020 8:08 pm

WASHINGTON—The fire aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Bonhomme Richard showed no sign of abating Monday, raising fears that one of the few U.S. Navy ships that can operate like a mini aircraft carrier is damaged beyond repair.

The Navy is “doing everything we can do” to save the ship, Rear Adm. Philip Sobeck, commander of the Navy’s Expeditionary Strike Group 3, said at a press conference in San Diego on Monday, a day after the fire broke out. But he said the vessel’s mast had collapsed and that there was “burn damage all the way through the skin of the ship.”

Navy officials said it could be days before the fire is contained, and pictures and video Monday captured plumes of smoke billowing from the ship into San Diego’s sunny skies. Some local officials encouraged residents to stay inside, amid fears about the effect of the fire on air quality around the San Diego area.


The ship, named for the French translation of Benjamin Franklin’s nom de plume “Poor Richard,” is among a handful of amphibious assault ships reconfigured to enable the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter to take off from its deck. That capability allows it to be used for offensive air operations. It conducted its first missions with F-35s aboard in 2018.
071220.navy.ship.fire_960x540.jpg

Fire Breaks Out on Naval Ship in San Diego
Several sailors were being treated for a variety of injuries after a fire broke out on a ship at the U.S. Naval base in San Diego, according to the San Diego Fire Department. Photo: KSWB
“You are losing one of the few platforms that you could use to fill in for a carrier in the Middle East when our attention is focused on the Pacific,” said Bryan Clark, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute.


The ship was docked at a naval base in San Diego undergoing maintenance when the fire was discovered Sunday around 8:30 a.m. PDT after sailors reported hearing an explosion. There was no work under way at the site of the fire’s origin, which was a staging area for supplies like drywall, scaffolding and rags, Adm. Sobeck said Monday. That area also held equipment used by Marines who serve on the ship.

More than 400 sailors, along with federal firefighters, have been combating the blaze from aboard the ship and from the air. In all, 34 sailors and 23 civilians had been injured by the fire, many for smoke inhalation and heat exhaustion, Navy officials said. By Monday evening, none remained in the hospital. The ship is designed to carry as many as 1,000 sailors and Marines, but because it was docked, only 160 sailors were aboard when the blaze started.

Adm. Sobeck said Monday there was no ordnance aboard the ship and that the fire hadn’t reached the ship’s fuel supply.

The Navy intended the ship, commissioned in 1998, to be a part of the Navy fleet for roughly 40 years. But on Monday, one Navy official said that while they still have yet to assess the extent of the damage, “it’s going to take an enormous effort” to get the ship back out to sea. Navy officials said it would take months at a minimum to repair, and some said they were worried the ship couldn’t be saved at all.

The USS Fitzgerald, the guided-missile destroyer damaged in June 2017 when it collided with a Philippine-flagged container ship near Japan, killing seven sailors, didn’t return to service until earlier this year.

In 2012, a fire erupted aboard the USS Miami, an attack submarine, while it was in maintenance at a Maine shipyard, leading to a public debate over whether to save the ship. But the Navy decided instead that the costs would be too high to repair the ship and formally decommissioned her two years later.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/navy-o...25?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/dTexhJjZvn


This ship commisioned relatively new, in 1998
 
Last edited:
.
Navy Officials Fear USS Bonhomme Richard Fire Has Damaged It Beyond Repair
Amphibious assault ship one of the few in U.S. fleet that can launch F-35 operations


The USS Bonhomme Richard caught fire while docked at a naval base in San Diego.
PHOTO: CHRISTINA ROSS/U.S. NAVY/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES
By
Updated July 13, 2020 8:08 pm

WASHINGTON—The fire aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Bonhomme Richard showed no sign of abating Monday, raising fears that one of the few U.S. Navy ships that can operate like a mini aircraft carrier is damaged beyond repair.

The Navy is “doing everything we can do” to save the ship, Rear Adm. Philip Sobeck, commander of the Navy’s Expeditionary Strike Group 3, said at a press conference in San Diego on Monday, a day after the fire broke out. But he said the vessel’s mast had collapsed and that there was “burn damage all the way through the skin of the ship.”

Navy officials said it could be days before the fire is contained, and pictures and video Monday captured plumes of smoke billowing from the ship into San Diego’s sunny skies. Some local officials encouraged residents to stay inside, amid fears about the effect of the fire on air quality around the San Diego area.


The ship, named for the French translation of Benjamin Franklin’s nom de plume “Poor Richard,” is among a handful of amphibious assault ships reconfigured to enable the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter to take off from its deck. That capability allows it to be used for offensive air operations. It conducted its first missions with F-35s aboard in 2018.
071220.navy.ship.fire_960x540.jpg

Fire Breaks Out on Naval Ship in San Diego
Several sailors were being treated for a variety of injuries after a fire broke out on a ship at the U.S. Naval base in San Diego, according to the San Diego Fire Department. Photo: KSWB
“You are losing one of the few platforms that you could use to fill in for a carrier in the Middle East when our attention is focused on the Pacific,” said Bryan Clark, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute.


The ship was docked at a naval base in San Diego undergoing maintenance when the fire was discovered Sunday around 8:30 a.m. PDT after sailors reported hearing an explosion. There was no work under way at the site of the fire’s origin, which was a staging area for supplies like drywall, scaffolding and rags, Adm. Sobeck said Monday. That area also held equipment used by Marines who serve on the ship.

More than 400 sailors, along with federal firefighters, have been combating the blaze from aboard the ship and from the air. In all, 34 sailors and 23 civilians had been injured by the fire, many for smoke inhalation and heat exhaustion, Navy officials said. By Monday evening, none remained in the hospital. The ship is designed to carry as many as 1,000 sailors and Marines, but because it was docked, only 160 sailors were aboard when the blaze started.

Adm. Sobeck said Monday there was no ordnance aboard the ship and that the fire hadn’t reached the ship’s fuel supply.

The Navy intended the ship, commissioned in 1998, to be a part of the Navy fleet for roughly 40 years. But on Monday, one Navy official said that while they still have yet to assess the extent of the damage, “it’s going to take an enormous effort” to get the ship back out to sea. Navy officials said it would take months at a minimum to repair, and some said they were worried the ship couldn’t be saved at all.

The USS Fitzgerald, the guided-missile destroyer damaged in June 2017 when it collided with a Philippine-flagged container ship near Japan, killing seven sailors, didn’t return to service until earlier this year.

In 2012, a fire erupted aboard the USS Miami, an attack submarine, while it was in maintenance at a Maine shipyard, leading to a public debate over whether to save the ship. But the Navy decided instead that the costs would be too high to repair the ship and formally decommissioned her two years later.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/navy-o...25?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/dTexhJjZvn


Juat realize this ship commisioned relatively new, in 1998
Very unfortunate ... it does indeed appear that the ship will most likely be scrapped at this point. Clearly a huge wake up call for USN surface fleet maintenance ... just like the USS John McCain and USS Fitzgerald disasters in 2017. I am still very surprised how big this fire was ... as compared to the one seen on the 075 LHD a couple months ago.
 
.
Very unfortunate ... it does indeed appear that the ship will most likely be scrapped at this point. Clearly a huge wake up call for USN surface fleet maintenance ... just like the USS John McCain and USS Fitzgerald disasters in 2017. I am still very surprised how big this fire was ... as compared to the one seen on the 075 LHD a couple months ago.

Nobody dares ask where our taxes are going anymore. I see empty stretches of highway and abandoned half finished construction sites that have stayed that way for years, with banners stating "____ infrastructure project paid for by YOUR tax dollars!"

An apt metaphor for this time.
 
.
Nobody dares ask where our taxes are going anymore. I see empty stretches of highway and abandoned half finished construction sites that have stayed that way for years, with banners stating "____ infrastructure project paid for by YOUR tax dollars!"

An apt metaphor for this time.
I've given up on US infrastructure construction. Clearly politicians from both parties don't care about the state of infrastructure ... they just insist everything is fine and will move along. But this fire is another matter ... replacing a LHD will take years and a couple of billion dollars.
 
.
Very unfortunate ... it does indeed appear that the ship will most likely be scrapped at this point. Clearly a huge wake up call for USN surface fleet maintenance ... just like the USS John McCain and USS Fitzgerald disasters in 2017. I am still very surprised how big this fire was ... as compared to the one seen on the 075 LHD a couple months ago.

Yes, very unfortunate.


If you ask, as comparison with Type 075 LHD.

The Chinese Firefighting System put the fire off in just half hour, that's mean No Damage to the Structure of the ship.

Meanwhile, at this point we talk. The fire in Bonhomme richard still burning, and of course give an extensive damage to the structure.

The fire in Type 075 LHD doesn't touch Island or bridge section where most expensive component electronics there.

Meanwhile, Island and bridge of bonhomme richard engulfed with fire for many hours. Even her mast collapsed.

There is still heavy smoke outcoming from her stack. That's mean all Engine and Power system is a Total loss

From this point, you will know the answer
 
.
these u.s supporters were making fun of russia when same happened to russian aircraft carrier few years ago and blaming russia about poor maintenance capabilities now they are facing similar condition
 
. . . .
. . . .

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom