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Mumbai Attacks, the Aftermath - The Lede Blog - NYTimes.com

Searching for Survivors, Hearing Stories | 12:07 p.m. The siege is over. Now comes the accounting and the recounting.

Security officers are combing the Taj Mahal hotel for survivors, bodies and clues at the scene of the last battle, which ended Saturday by mid-morning in Mumbai, according to the head of the elite National Security Guard, J. K. Dutt. Three terrorists, he said, had been killed inside. One commando leader said earlier that his team had come across a single room in the Taj containing a dozen corpses or more.

Israel’s foreign ministry confirmed that eight Israelis had died in the attacks, seven of whom were inside the Nariman House, home to Mumbai’s Chabad-Lubavitch movement.

Jeremy Kahn, a contributor for our sister newspaper, The International Herald Tribune, filed this dispatch of the scene in Mumbai after the end of the siege, with accounts of some witnesses of the attacks:

As word came that the siege at the Taj Mahal hotel was over today, many Mumbai natives came into the streets and walked down to the Gate of India, which is located adjacent to the Taj, to look at the damage. There was palpable feeling of relief among residents in the blocks immediately around the Taj. Many Indians asked to pose for photographs with Indian Army soldiers and gave high fives to police officers.

In an interview recounting his experience, Nisar Suttar, who works as a part-time guide for tourists in the Colaba section of Mumbai, said that he was standing just outside Leopold’s Cafe at 9:30 p.m. Wednesday, when two young men entered the cafe, one carrying a heavy bag. They approached the counter and seemed to order food, Mr. Suttar said. Then, five minutes later, they pulled out automatic rifles and began shooting at the diners before running out of the cafe.

Reaching a nearby corner, Mr. Suttar said, he saw the two gunmen open fire down the street. He said one of the gunmen seemed to be talking on a mobile phone even as he used his other hand to fire off rounds. The men then ran off down a side street and Mr. Suttar said he and three other bystanders went to help a bloodied man who was lying on the ground just outside Leopold’s. They said they put the man in a taxi and asked the driver to take the injured man to a hospital. Mr. Suttar said unarmed police officers in the area ran off while the shooting was going on, but soon returned to try to help victims within Leopold’s.

Two musicians who had been working at the Oberoi hotel said in interviews that they were allowed to return Saturday afternoon along with guests to pick up their luggage. Pramod Pandit, 45, said that he was a tabla player. His partner, Jamil Ali Khan, 54, played sitar. Mr. Pandit said that he and Mr. Khan had been playing background music on a small stage at the Khandahar restaurant on the second floor of the Oberoi hotel, when at approximately 9:40 p.m. Wednesday he heard gunfire from the lobby, one floor below. People in the restaurant began to panic.

Within two minutes, he said, one of the gunmen entered the restaurant and began shooting at the diners. He said he saw one man fall to the ground, covered in blood. He later learned that one of his managers at the Oberoi had been killed as well. He and Mr. Khan raced to an emergency exit along with many of the other diners and ran down the stairs, which eventually took them outside. He said he was not permitted back into the Kandahar restaurant to pick up his instrument; someone from the hotel staff brought it down to him. The staff member told him the restaurant was badly damaged and might not be able to open again for many months.

Stories are emerging worldwide of survival and courage, and how, in the case of a Chicago couple, text messaging helped keep them informed before their rescue.

Carole and Benjamin Mackoff were concluding a three-week trip with Tauck Tours, staying at the Taj Mahal Palace & Tower when shots rang out. They hid in their room, and their son, Jonathan Mackoff, a chiropractor in Chicago, gave United States consulate officials their cell phone number and room number. According to The Chicago Tribune, Jonathan kept text messaging his parents throughout the ordeal, until Indian commandos knocked on the door of his parents’ room with a special password that they received on the phone.

Tauck Tours, according to a news release issued by the company, had a group of 26 guests and three Tauck tour directors concluding the November 10th departure of our “A Portrait Of India” tour at the Taj Mahal on the day the attacks began:

• Eight of those guests, accompanied by one tour director, had left the hotel for the airport prior to the attack. All are safe.

• We deeply regret having to confirm that one Tauck guest, a 71-year-old resident of Sydney, Australia, lost his life in the attack.

• Our 17 remaining guests and the two remaining tour directors are all safe. All have left Mumbai and have either arrived home or are en route.

From the United Kingdom:

Lynne and Ken Shaw of Wales told the BBC of hiding under tables while the attackers stormed a restaurant across the hall from where they were eating in the Taj Mahal Palace Hotel. In the interview, Mrs. Shaw said that “little things that night — just timing — saved our lives.”

Restaurant workers led them and others through a warren of hallways into a conference room, where the group hid for hours. They were being led out in groups of six when “all of a sudden gunfire broke out in the corridor and they had executed a six-year-old in front of his parent,” Mrs. Shaw said. “My life was saved because as I was running I stumbled and I think that really saved me as I fell back into the room.” The next morning men with guns burst into the room where they were hiding and ordered everyone out. “At that stage I thought this is the end,” Mrs. Shaw said, but the men turned out to be Indian Army personnel.

Will Pike and Kelly Doyle, from Camden in North London, told The Guardian of knotting towels, bedsheets and curtains together to escape from their room in the Taj.

They had fled to their room after hearing gunfire and explosions, and sat for hours listening to gunshots come closer and closer. After they had armed themselves with knives and forks and making a plan to surprise any attacker, their room began to fill with smoke. Mr. Pike went first on the 60-foot climb down the makeshift rope.

“But clearly I never did my boy scout knot badge because my knots were rubbish,” he said. The knots came undone and he fell, breaking three vertabrae, both arms and his pelvis. Shortly afterward, firefighters rescued Ms. Doyle with a hydraulic lift. Mr. Pike remains in a Mumbai hospital in intensive care.
 
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How terrorists tortured and bled people to death ...

'Terrorists were barbaric and sadistic'

Vicky Nanjappa & Krishnakumar P | November 29, 2008 | 19:42 IST

Some excerpts ...

NSG commandos, who took part in the operation, told rediff.com that the terrorists were "sadistic and barbaric".

"Although we cannot reveal the exact nature of torture meted out to hostages, we can say that the hostages were not given food or water for the entire three days," he said.

The NSG commando says that some of the guards and the guests were tortured and some of them were bled to death. A guard and a guest were found dead in a room. They were stripped, beaten, their legs chained and were bled to death. This only goes on to show how sadistic they were by nature.

The NSG is still unable to confirm how many people terrorists had been kept hostage. Not all were kept in the same room, the NSG commando said.

Some hostages who were kept together were moved by the terrorists from floor to floor. Every time they wanted to move from floor to floor and shift the hostages, they hurled grenades to distract the NSG.

The major part of the damage and torture of the guests were committed before the NSG stormed the building.

As most of the guests hid in their rooms and bathrooms, terrorists stormed into their rooms and shot them dead. Only a handful of hostages (around25) were with the terrorists...

The hostages who were with the terrorists were kept in a room and were made to kneel down on the floor at all times. It looks like they killed at least five hostages every day. However, most of the hostages were killed on the last day of the operation when they realized that the battle was coming to an end.
 
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How terrorists tortured and bled people to death ...
The NSG commando says that some of the guards and the guests were tortured and some of them were bled to death. A guard and a guest were found dead in a room. They were stripped, beaten, their legs chained and were bled to death. This only goes on to show how sadistic they were by nature.

Does anyone have those pictures? Yest i saw those pic in a news channel.. it was horrible...:tsk:
 
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Terrorists executed 6 year old child in front of parent

Restaurant workers led them and others through a warren of hallways into a conference room, where the group hid for hours. They were being led out in groups of six when “all of a sudden gunfire broke out in the corridor and they had executed a six-year-old in front of his parent,” Mrs. Shaw said. “My life was saved because as I was running I stumbled and I think that really saved me as I fell back into the room.”

And so. Will these Mujaheddin find solace in the embrace of Allah? They think so. They are taught and assured so ... by someone. Who? Why? Can you explain?
 
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Terrorists executed 6 year old child in front of parent

Restaurant workers led them and others through a warren of hallways into a conference room, where the group hid for hours. They were being led out in groups of six when “all of a sudden gunfire broke out in the corridor and they had executed a six-year-old in front of his parent,” Mrs. Shaw said. “My life was saved because as I was running I stumbled and I think that really saved me as I fell back into the room.”

And so. Will these Mujaheddin find solace in the embrace of Allah? They think so. they are taught and assured so by someone. Who? Why?

Their mission parameters weren't exactly based on scholarly religious teachings. These guys were professional killers not clerics.
 
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Their mission parameters weren't exactly based on scholarly religious teachings. These guys were professional killers not clerics.

I'm sorry KB, suicide jihadis cannot be considered "professional". There is not "professional" on earth who is suicidal. It is an oxymoron to say so. Nice try at obfuscation.
 
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I'm sorry KB, suicide jihadis cannot be considered "professional". There is not "professional" on earth who is suicidal. It is an oxymoron to say so. Nice try at obfuscation.

Ok fine, call them unprofessional, what does it matter? They went in with a mission and pretty much accomplished it, that takes training and dedication. Anyways the main point is they are criminals not clerics, nice try there bud.
 
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Ok fine, call them unprofessional, what does it matter? They went in with a mission and pretty much accomplished it, that takes training and dedication. Anyways the main point is they are criminals not clerics, nice try there bud.

Of course they aren't clerics. Clerics are too clever to go on suicide missions. But you do admit that they have the blessing of eternal paradise from some clerics, some legal scholars of Islam? They are sanctioned by Islam are they not, in their minds if not in yours?
 
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Ok fine, call them unprofessional, what does it matter? They went in with a mission and pretty much accomplished it, that takes training and dedication. Anyways the main point is they are criminals not clerics, nice try there bud.

The fact is that this ideology of hate was so deeply imprinted in their minds that they were able to carry out such horrific acts with no remorse.

This is religious indoctrination of the worst, most disgusting kind.

Unfortunately, such indoctrination is getting increasingly common in Pakistan.
 
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Ok fine, call them unprofessional, what does it matter?

The very fact that you can say "What does it matter?" shows the depth of the problem. It matters because until the Islamic world totally and thoroughly rejects their ideology, we will have war without end.
 
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The fact is that this ideology of hate was so deeply imprinted in their minds that they were able to carry out such horrific acts with no remorse.

This is religious indoctrination of the worst, most disgusting kind.

Unfortunately, such indoctrination is getting increasingly common in Pakistan.

Unfortunately and to the shock of the entire world, it is as common in India.
 
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Of course they aren't clerics. Clerics are too clever to go on suicide missions. But you do admit that they have the blessing of eternal paradise from some clerics, some legal scholars of Islam? They are sanctioned by Islam are they not, in their minds if not in yours?

Not in the least, killing civilians even in times of all out war is prohibited. They have blessings only from their organizational management and themselves had no beards, were dressed in t-shirts and were wearing strange ornaments...not the epitome of your average freedom fighter.
 
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The very fact that you can say "What does it matter?" shows the depth of the problem. It matters because until the Islamic world totally and thoroughly rejects their ideology, we will have war without end.

In your mind are you tying me and my people into their criminal group and actions, solely based on religion (you aren't even sure I could be Christian, there are plenty in Pakistan)? If you came here with preconceived prejudices I can't do anything to help sway you mate.
 
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Not in the least, killing civilians even in times of all out war is prohibited. They have blessings only from their organizational management and themselves had no beards, were dressed in t-shirts and were wearing strange ornaments...not the epitome of your average freedom fighter.


Ah Ha! No beards! Had they beards and were they dressed in shalwar khameez, then they would go to paradise? You really resist admitting that they are motivated by a heartfelt (in their minds) interpretation of Islam. You, sir, are in denial. And your denial is an important part of the problem we are facing.
 
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