TAPI Natural Gas Pipeline Project to be Launched in 2021

[SD 10]

I dont think so... and projects like these will make india somewhat dependent on us.. we should also make a route for them to trade with Afghanistan a route... this will allow us an upper hand diplomatically... and we can put pressure on em regarding Kashmir..

you want to kill our agriculture?

 

[cloud4000]

It is India's prerogative, whether to be dependent on Pakistan for it's energy supplies or not, it should have considered it before signing GSPA or calling for its renegotiations.

Obviously...

You post an old article, but in reality, such bonhomie between India and Pakistan does not exist. Not since Modi came to power and revoking of articles 350 and 35A. Any idea to proceed with TAPI in the current environment would be a foolhardy one. They can continue to build and India may or may not join it later if things improve.

Honestly, would any sane Indian want to be put in a position that Pakistan can control?

 

[Maula Jatt]

This goes back to the basic question. Is India a enemy, a friend or just a neighbour. If it is the two later ones then open the border, let trade flourish. Pakistani consumer would be the biggest beneficiary. Cheaper and better everything in India. But please give up on Kashmir and make peace.

The problem with Pakistan is they can't make up their minds. enemy or not? That is the question.

I am in favour of that, accepting loc

 

[HaMoTZeMaS]

It will require whole division to monitor. Not economical.

Oh Come on.. We just need to develop a new division of motorway police
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However.. We are at end of 2021

Somebody is trying to fool us

 

[farok84]

Obviously...

You post an old article, but in reality, such bonhomie between India and Pakistan does not exist. Not since Modi came to power and revoking of articles 350 and 35A. Any idea to proceed with TAPI in the current environment would be a foolhardy one. They can continue to build and India may or may not join it later if things improve.

Honestly, would any sane Indian want to be put in a position that Pakistan can control?

Hi,

I think you misunderstood. I have no intention or desire for India to remain part of this project, infact India leaving this project, is much more beneficial for Pakistan politically and economically. The quoted articles serve as references for contract signage and price renegotiation history.

The GSPA was signed in 2012, under ADB financing terms and is still effective and legally binding for all the signatories including India. It was indeed Modi government that tried to renegotiate a better price in 2018 ( see second article) by invoking the price reopener clause of the same GSPA. (It is part of the price opener clause that if a buyer (Afghanistan, Pakistan or India) was able to source gas from another supplier at a price cheaper than TAPI's, Turkmenistan is bound contractually for reopening price, India did that in 2018 after renegotiating Lng deal with Qatar, that turned out cheaper than TAPI pricing and Pakistan did the same in 2021 after signing new Lng contract with Qatar.)

India should stop dragging it's feet, obviously Modi will commit political suicide, if his government remains part of the project in any capacity, so he should cancel the GSPA, when he can very easily take a higher moral ground, of India choosing not to be part of any financial or economical transaction with IEA, which it deems as a militant group. This stance will also help it evade any financial repercussions from Turkmen and ADB.

On the question of a recently published article, here is one published yesterday (27-August-2021) by an Indian newspaper focused entirely on Indian economy (Business Standard) written by (not so sane) Indian, arguing benefits of TAPI in transforming India's quest for gas-based economy, have a read.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1431075241430708228

Talks over TAPI pipeline gather steam with Taliban at the helm

Target is to take a share of natural gas to 15% in India's energy mix

www.business-standard.com

 

[farok84]

Turkmenistan officials due in Afghanistan as Taliban back TAPI gas pipeline

Officials from Turkmenistan will visit Kabul this week to discuss continuing work on the TAPI pipeline linking the energy-rich Central Asian country through Afghanistan to Pakistan and India, the Taliban government said on Wednesday.

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Turkmenistan officials due in Afghanistan as Taliban back TAPI gas pipeline
Reuters
October 27, 20211:58 PM PKT Last Updated 2 hours ago

Workers stand near a gas pipe during the launching ceremony of construction work of the TAPI project on the Afghan section of a natural gas pipeline that will link Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Pakistan and India, near the town of Serhetabat, Turkmenistan February 23, 2018. REUTERS/Marat Gurt


KABUL, Oct 27 (Reuters) - Officials from Turkmenistan will visit Kabul this week to discuss continuing work on the TAPI pipeline linking the energy-rich Central Asian country through Afghanistan to Pakistan and India, the Taliban government said on Wednesday.

The pipeline is expected to carry 33 billion cubic meters (bcm) of natural gas each year along a route stretching 1,800 km (1,125 miles) from Galkynysh, the world's second-biggest gas field, to the Indian city of Fazilka near the Pakistan border.

"We have been working hard for some time and we are ready to take pride in starting work on the TAPI project," Mohammad Issa Akhund, the acting minister of mines and petroleum in the new Taliban government, said in a statement.

The Afghan stretch of the pipeline will run from the northwestern border with Turkmenistan, south through the western city of Herat to Kandahar near the border with Pakistan.

Akhund met the ambassador of Turkmenistan ahead of a two-day visit by a delegation from the country that will start from Saturday, the statement said.

The project was launched in Afghanistan in 2018, when the Taliban was fighting the Western-backed government in Kabul, but it pledged its cooperation for a project it hailed as a key future element of the economic infrastructure.

Afghanistan, which suffers chronic energy shortages, is expected to take 5% of the gas itself, with the rest divided equally between Pakistan and India. In addition, Kabul should earn hundreds of millions of dollars in transit fees.

Reporting by James Mackenzie; Editing by Clarence Fernandez

 

[Bouncer]

Jokes apart, I am in favour of comprehensive trade agreements and trade practices. India is a market of 1.4 billion. I want to see Qarshi joshanda making Patriotic TV ads for marketing purpose on Indian Televisions. That will help us milk the mad cow of Asia.

Easier said than done. Our security regime basically relies on closing things down rather than managing them. Just look at domestic events and how they are managed.. crudest possible solution is always implemented i.e. close down mobile networks, close down all roads, restrict movement. No proactive efforts, no intelligence required. Simply close everything down.

Same mindset is translated in our international posturing.

 

[farok84]

TAPI project's implementation will start soon in Afghanistan, say Taliban
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TAPI project's implementation will start soon in Afghanistan, say Taliban

Kabul [Afghanistan], October 31 (ANI): Amir Khan Muttaqi, the Taliban-announced government's acting Foreign Minister has said that the implementation of the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) gas pipeline project will soon begin in his country, reported local media.

www.aninews.in

Taliban pledge mega gas pipeline project's security in Afghanistan
Assurance comes after acting defense minister and Turkmenistan's top diplomat meet in Kabul to discuss TAPI, bilateral ties
S. K. Khan |30.10.2021

ISLAMABAD

Mawlawi Muhammad Yaqub, the acting Taliban defense minister in the interim Afghanistan administration, said on Saturday that he has taken direct charge of security for the multibillion-dollar TAPI (Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India) gas pipeline project.

Yaqub, the son of the Taliban's founding leader, Mullah Omar, made the comment following a meeting with Turkmenistan's Foreign Minister Rashid Meredov, who arrived in Kabul in the morning for talks on the project and bilateral relations with Afghanistan.

“I am directly responsible for and overseeing the security of the TAPI project. We will not hesitate to make any sacrifices for the implementation of this national project,” Yaqoob tweeted after meeting with Turkmenistan’s top diplomat at the presidential palace in the capital.

The visiting Foreign Minister of Turkmenistan also met with Mullah Mohammad Hassan Akhund, acting prime minister of the Taliban’s interim administration at his office.

“During the meeting, both sides discussed bolstering relations, economic, trade, security, and humanitarian assistance,” said Zabihullah Mujahed, the Taliban spokesman and deputy minister for information and culture.

In 2018, Afghanistan hosted top officials from Turkmenistan, Pakistan, and India back for the groundbreaking ceremony of the TAPI project, which will also connect the four countries with roads, railways, and fiber optics.

The mega project, which connects energy-rich Central Asia with energy-starved South Asia via Afghanistan, was envisioned in the 1990s and practical work on it began in 2015.

In line with this $10 billion project, up to 33 billion cubic meters of gas would be carried from the Galkynysh gas field in Turkmenistan to the town of Fazilka in Indian Punjab via the 1,814-kilometer pipeline passing through Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Afghanistan is expected to earn $500 million annually from this project.

Alongside TAP, another project named the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan 500 kilovolts Line (TAP-500) will transfer Turkmenistan’s electricity to Pakistan through Afghanistan. This project would also generate $110 million annually as transit-free for the country. Kabul and Ashgabat have also agreed to build a 13-kilometer railway link between the two countries.

Taliban pledge mega gas pipeline project's security in Afghanistan

Assurance comes after acting defense minister and Turkmenistan's top diplomat meet in Kabul to discuss TAPI, bilateral ties - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[FuturePAF]

TAPI project's implementation will start soon in Afghanistan, say Taliban
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TAPI project's implementation will start soon in Afghanistan, say Taliban

Kabul [Afghanistan], October 31 (ANI): Amir Khan Muttaqi, the Taliban-announced government's acting Foreign Minister has said that the implementation of the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) gas pipeline project will soon begin in his country, reported local media.

www.aninews.in

Taliban pledge mega gas pipeline project's security in Afghanistan
Assurance comes after acting defense minister and Turkmenistan's top diplomat meet in Kabul to discuss TAPI, bilateral ties
S. K. Khan |30.10.2021

ISLAMABAD

Mawlawi Muhammad Yaqub, the acting Taliban defense minister in the interim Afghanistan administration, said on Saturday that he has taken direct charge of security for the multibillion-dollar TAPI (Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India) gas pipeline project.

Yaqub, the son of the Taliban's founding leader, Mullah Omar, made the comment following a meeting with Turkmenistan's Foreign Minister Rashid Meredov, who arrived in Kabul in the morning for talks on the project and bilateral relations with Afghanistan.

“I am directly responsible for and overseeing the security of the TAPI project. We will not hesitate to make any sacrifices for the implementation of this national project,” Yaqoob tweeted after meeting with Turkmenistan’s top diplomat at the presidential palace in the capital.

The visiting Foreign Minister of Turkmenistan also met with Mullah Mohammad Hassan Akhund, acting prime minister of the Taliban’s interim administration at his office.

“During the meeting, both sides discussed bolstering relations, economic, trade, security, and humanitarian assistance,” said Zabihullah Mujahed, the Taliban spokesman and deputy minister for information and culture.

In 2018, Afghanistan hosted top officials from Turkmenistan, Pakistan, and India back for the groundbreaking ceremony of the TAPI project, which will also connect the four countries with roads, railways, and fiber optics.

The mega project, which connects energy-rich Central Asia with energy-starved South Asia via Afghanistan, was envisioned in the 1990s and practical work on it began in 2015.

In line with this $10 billion project, up to 33 billion cubic meters of gas would be carried from the Galkynysh gas field in Turkmenistan to the town of Fazilka in Indian Punjab via the 1,814-kilometer pipeline passing through Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Afghanistan is expected to earn $500 million annually from this project.

Alongside TAP, another project named the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan 500 kilovolts Line (TAP-500) will transfer Turkmenistan’s electricity to Pakistan through Afghanistan. This project would also generate $110 million annually as transit-free for the country. Kabul and Ashgabat have also agreed to build a 13-kilometer railway link between the two countries.

Taliban pledge mega gas pipeline project's security in Afghanistan

Assurance comes after acting defense minister and Turkmenistan's top diplomat meet in Kabul to discuss TAPI, bilateral ties - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

If this project can materialize then a rail connection to Turkmenistan should be next (which can go all the way to the Caspain sea and allow freight to be put on ships to transit through the DonVolga Canal all the way to western Europe through the Danube-Rhine); The Turkish Corridor I’ve been hinting at for a few year now.

Also, the electrical connections between all the nations should be linked up with China, so excess electricity can be shared where it is most profitable, allowing investors to recoup investments and reduce the burden on countries. Electricity producers need market access to the growing Chinese market.

These three projects can totally transform the region; TAPI, Freight Europe at an economical price and quick time (great for food), and electricity sharing.

 

[farok84]

If this project can materialize then a rail connection to Turkmenistan should be next (which can go all the way to the Caspain sea and allow freight to be put on ships to transit through the DonVolga Canal all the way to western Europe through the Danube-Rhine); The Turkish Corridor I’ve been hinting at for a few year now.

Also, the electrical connections between all the nations should be linked up with China, so excess electricity can be shared where it is most profitable, allowing investors to recoup investments and reduce the burden on countries. Electricity producers need market access to the growing Chinese market.

These three projects can totally transform the region; TAPI, Freight Europe at an economical price and quick time (great for food), and electricity sharing.

Hi,

There is a plan to lay a railway track between Uzbekistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan. Asad Umar spoke about it in his recent talk at Wilson Center.

I don't see Pakistan much interested in electricity supply projects (TAP 500 or CASA 1000). They will be more of a burden for us, specially with our excess electricity production and capacity payment issues.

For Pakistan's economic interest, TAPI should be connected to PSGP and excess gas that was to be supplied to India, should be sold to other markets as Lng via an export Lng terminal at Karachi operated by TurkmenGas.

 

[FuturePAF]

Hi,

There is a plan to lay a railway track between Uzbekistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan. Asad Umar spoke about it in his recent talk at Wilson Center.

I don't see Pakistan much interested in electricity supply projects (TAP 500 or CASA 1000). They will be more of a burden for us, specially with our excess electricity production and capacity payment issues.

For Pakistan's economic interest, TAPI should be connected to PSGP and excess gas that was to be supplied to India, should be sold to other markets as Lng via an export Lng terminal at Karachi operated by TurkmenGas.

the gas the from the TAPI pipeline should got o Karachi but should also be used to incentivize investors to build up a petrochemical industry in Pakistan.

second the power sharing was really about supplying China. China has to help Central Asia develop if it wants BRI to grow and help them balance out dependence (on food and energy) from other parts of the world. It also allows Chinese investors recoup investments and reduces the burden on countries the infrastructure is being built in.

btw, thanks for sharing the video, very informative, and has renewed my hope that they have some plan they are about to implement.

I hope they add a high voltage transmission line from Islamabad to China in their plans. Pakistan actually had areas where solar power is economically viable. Considering how little Pakistan pollutes per capita, Pakistan should be advocating “carbon swaps” on an international level, as is done in the US.

 

[BATMAN]

Hi,

There is a plan to lay a railway track between Uzbekistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan. Asad Umar spoke about it in his recent talk at Wilson Center.

I don't see Pakistan much interested in electricity supply projects (TAP 500 or CASA 1000). They will be more of a burden for us, specially with our excess electricity production and capacity payment issues.

For Pakistan's economic interest, TAPI should be connected to PSGP and excess gas that was to be supplied to India, should be sold to other markets as Lng via an export Lng terminal at Karachi operated by TurkmenGas.

No plan, infact plan less talk, which is hall mark of PoTI.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

TAPI project's implementation will start soon in Afghanistan, say Taliban
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TAPI project's implementation will start soon in Afghanistan, say Taliban

Kabul [Afghanistan], October 31 (ANI): Amir Khan Muttaqi, the Taliban-announced government's acting Foreign Minister has said that the implementation of the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) gas pipeline project will soon begin in his country, reported local media.

www.aninews.in

Taliban pledge mega gas pipeline project's security in Afghanistan
Assurance comes after acting defense minister and Turkmenistan's top diplomat meet in Kabul to discuss TAPI, bilateral ties
S. K. Khan |30.10.2021

ISLAMABAD

Mawlawi Muhammad Yaqub, the acting Taliban defense minister in the interim Afghanistan administration, said on Saturday that he has taken direct charge of security for the multibillion-dollar TAPI (Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India) gas pipeline project.

Yaqub, the son of the Taliban's founding leader, Mullah Omar, made the comment following a meeting with Turkmenistan's Foreign Minister Rashid Meredov, who arrived in Kabul in the morning for talks on the project and bilateral relations with Afghanistan.

“I am directly responsible for and overseeing the security of the TAPI project. We will not hesitate to make any sacrifices for the implementation of this national project,” Yaqoob tweeted after meeting with Turkmenistan’s top diplomat at the presidential palace in the capital.

The visiting Foreign Minister of Turkmenistan also met with Mullah Mohammad Hassan Akhund, acting prime minister of the Taliban’s interim administration at his office.

“During the meeting, both sides discussed bolstering relations, economic, trade, security, and humanitarian assistance,” said Zabihullah Mujahed, the Taliban spokesman and deputy minister for information and culture.

In 2018, Afghanistan hosted top officials from Turkmenistan, Pakistan, and India back for the groundbreaking ceremony of the TAPI project, which will also connect the four countries with roads, railways, and fiber optics.

The mega project, which connects energy-rich Central Asia with energy-starved South Asia via Afghanistan, was envisioned in the 1990s and practical work on it began in 2015.

In line with this $10 billion project, up to 33 billion cubic meters of gas would be carried from the Galkynysh gas field in Turkmenistan to the town of Fazilka in Indian Punjab via the 1,814-kilometer pipeline passing through Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Afghanistan is expected to earn $500 million annually from this project.

Alongside TAP, another project named the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan 500 kilovolts Line (TAP-500) will transfer Turkmenistan’s electricity to Pakistan through Afghanistan. This project would also generate $110 million annually as transit-free for the country. Kabul and Ashgabat have also agreed to build a 13-kilometer railway link between the two countries.

Taliban pledge mega gas pipeline project's security in Afghanistan

Assurance comes after acting defense minister and Turkmenistan's top diplomat meet in Kabul to discuss TAPI, bilateral ties - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

There is NO WAY india will be involved in this project. Best call it TAP.

 

[Communism]

As far as I know the TAPI proposal was always a LNG pipeline and therefore was always dependent on subsidies (aka, someone has to foot the bill for the counter-economic pipeline).

Since the proposal isn't even a CNG pipeline, and involves going through 2 semi-hostile countries just to get to a hostile third country, it has zero fundamental merit in my opinion.

I don't see why Turkmenistan wouldn't just export all their spare gas to China.

An LNG pipeline from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan and Pakistan shouldn't be fundamentally cheaper than simply importing LNG by ship from Qatar for India.

EDIT: TAPI Natural Gas Pipeline Project to be Launched in 2021 | Page 4 | Pakistan Defence

 

[FuturePAF]

As far as I know the TAPI proposal was always a LNG pipeline and therefore was always dependent on subsidies (aka, someone has to foot the bill for the counter-economic pipeline).

Since the proposal isn't even a CNG pipeline, and involves going through 2 semi-hostile countries just to get to a hostile third country, it has zero fundamental merit in my opinion.

I don't see why Turkmenistan wouldn't just export all their spare gas to China.

An LNG pipeline from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan and Pakistan shouldn't be fundamentally cheaper than simply importing LNG by ship from Qatar for India.

It’s more about Turkmenistan exporting its gas on the world market to earn more then the Chinese are willing to pay them.