Tank and armored vehicle protection system

[Goenitz]

Developed by: Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and Israel Aircraft Industries' Elta Group
Used by: Isreal and US
Combat proven: Yes,
Effectiveness: Against incoming missiles and rockets.
Cost: $300,000 per tank

 

[Agent Smith]

Israeli? means it will be accessible to us

 

[ptldM3]

My flash is not updated so i don't know what the video is about. But if you are talking about the active protection system, Russia has been working on it since the 1970s. Today they have the Arena system, perhaps there is something newer.

 

[Khalid Newazi]

There are anti-APS rockets and missiles. Trophy isn't effective against vertical missiles or from slant angles.

 

[Goenitz]

Russia has been working on it since the 1970s. Today they have the Arena system, perhaps there is something newer.

it is active protection system

Israeli? means it will be accessible to us

lol.... good luck with taht...

 

[flamer84]

SAAB LEDS

LEDS - Active vehicle protection

 

[Goenitz]

Russia has been working on it since the 1970s. Today they have the Arena system, perhaps there is something newer.

As Russia has started a long ago, can it be used against incoming missiles to host air craft and helicopters..? basically has Russia tested weapons like this?

 

[ptldM3]

As Russia has started a long ago, can it be used against incoming missiles to host air craft and helicopters..? basically has Russia tested weapons like this?

I don't know if anything similar is being developed for aircraft but the challenge would be dealing with the timing of the detonator in relation to the incoming threat. In other words an aircraft has boundary layer airflow that would make it difficult to accurately destroy an incoming threat because the device the detonates incoming threats is literally ejected towards the incoming threat.

 

[Goenitz]

In other words an aircraft has boundary layer airflow that would make it difficult to accurately destroy an incoming threat because the device the detonates incoming threats is literally ejected towards the incoming threat.

I think projecting the device is not a problem as it can be given a lead angle to the desired path. However, I think it would engage incoming threat so near to the aircraft that it is useless for such ise. "Active" means i think 'own its own' and for aircraft 'active' would really mean a missile launch to destroy another missile with its own on board computer/system.

 

[Khalid Newazi]

The German AMAP-ADS is best. It's faster, lighter and cheaper to maintain.
AMAP-ADS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Oldman1]

As Russia has started a long ago, can it be used against incoming missiles to host air craft and helicopters..? basically has Russia tested weapons like this?

News Room
Dulles, Virginia, 24 February 2015 -- Orbital ATK, Inc. (NYSE: OA), a global leader in aerospace and defense technologies, performed a live-fire demonstration of a key element of its Helicopter Active Protection System (HAPS). The HAPS Kill Vehicle (KV) was able to launch, perform pitch maneuvers and fly to a detonation point that simulated the location of an incoming rocket-propelled grenade (RPG). The demonstration is a valuable step toward a solution for the RPG threat to helicopters flying missions in dangerous areas.
Helicopters are vulnerable to damage from RPGs because the aircraft often hovers in position at low altitude, making it easy to target by an enemy on the ground. HAPS is designed to identify an incoming threat, launch and guide a KV to a precise location and detonate a warhead at a point where the RPG is rendered ineffective. All of this is designed to occur within a fraction of a second and far enough away from the helicopter to ensure the crew and aircraft are not harmed by metal fragments from the destroyed RPG.

The live-fire demonstration was designed to prove-out launch from a fixed ALE-47 Countermeasures Dispense System, off-axis pitch maneuvers of the KV and controlled flight of the KV to an impact point. The test flights successfully demonstrated these attributes and validated a number of HAPS components, including the KV launch cartridge, KV divert and attitude thrusters, non-linear guidance and control algorithms, and the fast-sync wireless command guidance link.

 

[500]

There are anti-APS rockets and missiles.

None is operational.

Trophy isn't effective against vertical missiles or from slant angles.

Its effective.

The German AMAP-ADS is best. It's faster, lighter and cheaper to maintain.
AMAP-ADS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

AMAP-ADS is very primitive and crude system. Its just basically a big box that explodes:

Huge collateral damage, very bulky, zero elevation angles, no situation awareness, no threat launching point detection.

Plus Trophy is the only deployed and only combat proven APS in the world.

 

[Goenitz]

Its effective.
.

he might be referring javelin or any air launched bomb or missile.. as their approach angle can be very steep...

 

[Khalid Newazi]

None is operational.

There are Javelin and HJ-12, both coming from vertical angles, not to mention RPG's and missiles fired from hilltops and top of buildings. Also, missiles with a decoy round can activate the APS and the actual warhead is delayed between 0.2-0.4, thus striking the target, aka tank. RPG-30 is an example.

Here's an article that will explain better.
Russian unveil RPG-30 able to defeat active protection systems like TROPHY - AR15.Com Archive

 

[500]

There are Javelin and HJ-12, both coming from vertical angles, not to mention RPG's and missiles fired from hilltops and top of buildings.

None of it absolutely vertical. Here Javelin attack:

Obviously it can be easily intercepted by Trophy:

Also, missiles with a decoy round can activate the APS and the actual warhead is delayed between 0.2-0.4, thus striking the target, aka tank. RPG-30 is an example.

No single army in the world has RPG-30 deployed and u can also program Trophy so it will ignore the decoy.