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Tang empire and Sassanids last stand vs Caliphate

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Persian arrogance gets a beating which makes my day.

The Arabs conquered parts of Central Asia are the Turks crying about it nope because the Turks became Muslim despite defeats from the Arabs the Turks became the leaders of the Islamic World.

Despite the defeats the Turks suffer they learn from it to become better in the future unlike Persians.

Persians always got their asses whopped by nomads whether its Arabs, Turks or Mongols. The Gokturks and Hephalites raided the crap out of Iran for years only thing Iran did was give their women or gold as tribute to the Nomads.
Thank you for this, I really enjoyed reading about Australian history.
 
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The Persians and and the Byzantine kicked the nomads for centuries before the nomads organized around religion. So really the Persians are still a superior civilization as compared to the nomads. Without external help today the Persoan can really whoop the Arabs Turks and what not.

You still lost to the Arabs hence why you Persians are still crying. Seljuks and the Ottomans whopped Byzantine asses and took their capital the Ottomans may not be nomadic per say but they are descended from nomads and employed a lot of their warfare into their army.

You guys were an empire while the Arabs and Turks did not have established civilisations.

By the way the Turks are much more superior warriors to the Persians.
 
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By the way the Turks are much more superior warriors to the Persians.
But neither of us can compare to the mighty Aussies, everyone can see just how proud of you are to apparently be from that proud warrior race of people.
 
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But neither of us can compare to the mighty Aussies, everyone can see just how proud of you are to apparently be from that proud warrior race of people.

Im Australian of Turkish descent mind you. Australia is a young nation we dont compare ourselves to nations that are much older than us.

You Persians are too arrogant to admit you got whopped by a bunch of Nomads riding horses.

Only thing that worked in your favour was spreading your culture nothing else. When you fail in war the plan b is to spread your culture.
 
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Second and third hand circle jerk threads are so 2018.

The numbers I really like in the present world are 80 million versus the hordes.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Not really ...
  • Its coming out of that situation currently pretty well...
  • In the past Pakistan was the fastest growing economies in the world.
  • In the recent past pakistan did have to go through what you just stated .. but that was primarily due to our own incompetence and corruption. That is being addressed as we speak.
Relax.
Pakistani establishment have treated much of the symptoms in relation to terrorism, but not the root cause. Pakistani infatuation with the Taliban types, and politics of militancy, remain strong beneath. Incidents of terrorism are in decline within Pakistan [apparent in statistics] due to military operations, expansion of the writ of the state in primarily tribal regions, fencing of Durand Line, reformation of police and paramilitary forces, and improvement in systems. However, substantial number of incidents are recorded each year, therefore, much to do still.

Poverty is increasing; Pakistani state needs to revisit its poverty-measuring approach.

Illiteracy issue will not be sorted out unless people have access to free education up to Matric in the entire country. Population is also increasing, so even if a large number of people are enrolled in schools, many are unable to as well.

PTI-led government does not have indefinite period to address so many issues. Pakistan will have to continue in the direction of INTROSPECTION for a long time to fix its problems. And what about emerging challenges in the form of water crisis and global warming? God help us.
 
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