Tamil leader becomes opposition leader in Sri Lanka

[Saradiel]

The only comment that justify the appointmemt is it could complicate the situation and add uncertainties which otherwise could have been avoided. With the best for Sri Lanka.

You are correct this government is making a big mess

 

[HeinzG]

The TNA once the proxy of LTTE is now the third largest party in Parliament and given the leader of the opposition post, The JVP responsible for killing thousands of political opponents during the 71' - 73' and again 87'-89' period of political chaos are the forth largest party and been appointed the opposition chief whip, Karuna who was the LTTE commander of the East responsible for thousands of Sinhalese and Muslim civilian deaths is the Vice president of the SLFP appointed by the former president Mahinda Rajapaksa, Pilliyan the one time deputy of Karuna in the East responsible for killing unarmed civilians and 300 surrended police personal was appointed the chief minister for the Eastern province under the UPFA during the it's leadership of Rajapaksa

And some of you people like @HeinzG has the gall to cry foul on Sambandan ? Sad

TNA wasn't the LTTE who took up arms and would have given them up to become a democratic political party. JVP is like that but not TNA.

Karuna and Pilleyan indeed served in LTTE and are responsible for murders. But they have given up on LTTE ideology and came to the side of the unitary country. They have always stayed adamant on the unitary state stance since they have joined the nationalistic side. So there is much difference between them and the TNA.

TNA on the other hand has never denounced the separate state ideology and still today carry the same banter where ever they go. That is why TNA should not become the main opposition of the country behind a known traitor Ranil Wikramasinghe as the PM of Sri Lanka.

You are correct this government is making a big mess

I'm f*king disappointed on the recent developments machan. I don't know where will this end.

 

[Saradiel]

The TNA once the proxy of LTTE is now the third largest party in Parliament and given the leader of the opposition post, The JVP responsible for killing thousands of political opponents during the 71' - 73' and again 87'-89' period of political chaos are the forth largest party and been appointed the opposition chief whip, Karuna who was the LTTE commander of the East responsible for thousands of Sinhalese and Muslim civilian deaths is the Vice president of the SLFP appointed by the former president Mahinda Rajapaksa, Pilliyan the one time deputy of Karuna in the East responsible for killing unarmed civilians and 300 surrended police personal was appointed the chief minister for the Eastern province under the UPFA during the it's leadership of Rajapaksa

And some of you people like @HeinzG has the gall to cry foul on Sambandan ? Sad

TNA is the 3rd largest party in parliament but the difference between the 3rd and 2 nd is huge...Actually the party with 95 seats is overlooked and given to this small party due to unknown reasons....It is the pressure from many embassies in colombo that made them main opposition..

JVP with all their ills was never a separatist party and accept the unitary status of SL...They havent challenged SL as a country, but TNA did and continue to reject unitary status..

Karuna and Pillayan gave up violence and rejected separatism. They even supported SLA in offensives..so it is impossible to treat karuna and Sampandan the same

 

[Godman]

The only comment that justify the appointmemt is it could complicate the situation and add uncertainties which otherwise could have been avoided. With the best for Sri Lanka.

As gibbs pointed it out the TNA's appointment is inevitable as the JVP(The second alrgest opposition party) couldn't get more seats than TNA which gives them the opposition leadership and Sampanthan was surprisingly supported by the unions in sinhalese areas

TNA wasn't the LTTE who took up arms and would have given them up to become a democratic political party. JVP is like that but not TNA.

Karuna and Pilleyan indeed served in LTTE and are responsible for murders. But they have given up on LTTE ideology and came to the side of the unitary country. They have always stayed adamant on the unitary state stance since they have joined the nationalistic side. So there is much difference between them and the TNA.

TNA on the other hand has never denounced the separate state ideology and still today carry the same banter where ever they go. That is why TNA should not become the main opposition of the country behind a known traitor Ranil Wikramasinghe as the PM of Sri Lanka.

Karuna and Pilleyan doesn't give a damn about the country, they are just greedy opportunists like Douglas Devananda, are you dumb enough not to see it and now they support the government. They are typical opportunists who joined Mahinda for money and power

TNA is the 3rd largest party in parliament but the difference between the 3rd and 2 nd is huge...Actually the party with 95 seats is overlooked and given to this small party due to unknown reasons....It is the pressure from many embassies in colombo that made them main opposition..

JVP with all their ills was never a separatist party and accept the unitary status of SL...They havent challenged SL as a country, but TNA did and continue to reject unitary status..

Karuna and Pillayan gave up violence and rejected separatism. They even supported SLA in offensives..so it is impossible to treat karuna and Sampandan the same

That party is in the government and also have cabinet ministers

 

[Saradiel]

That party is in the government and also have cabinet ministers

The people who voted for UPFA did not vote to make them join a government. Actually they voted to make MR the PM, it was a vote against MY3 that is who almost all of MY3's people were defeated. That is the decision of UPFA voters.

MY3 works as RW want (as samv said he is RW's puppet). That is not the mandate given by the people.

Karuna and Pilleyan doesn't give a damn about the country, they are just greedy opportunists like Douglas Devananda, are you dumb enough not to see it and now they support the government. They are typical opportunists who joined Mahinda for money and power

Yes they dont give a damn about the country, much like majority of the fellows in parliament. All are opportunists. The point is Karuna is NOT a threat to SL while Sampandan IS a threat to SL....

So karuna and Sampandan are clearly different

I'm f*king disappointed on the recent developments machan. I don't know where will this end.

Lets see, these people are behaving like ballo....anyway we need to inform the ppl and retain the MR support

 

[Gibbs]

TNA is the 3rd largest party in parliament but the difference between the 3rd and 2 nd is huge...Actually the party with 95 seats is overlooked and given to this small party due to unknown reasons....It is the pressure from many embassies in colombo that made them main opposition..

JVP with all their ills was never a separatist party and accept the unitary status of SL...They havent challenged SL as a country, but TNA did and continue to reject unitary status..

Karuna and Pillayan gave up violence and rejected separatism. They even supported SLA in offensives..so it is impossible to treat karuna and Sampandan the same

Mate.. If the SLPF are not greedy for the minister ships they can leave tomorrow and form a strong opposition.. Why arnt they doing that ? Nobody overlooked them.. They decided themselves.. If they're such patriots they should do it.. Why is Mahinda Rajapaksa silent ? Is'nt he the god of Sinhalese nationalists? Is'nt it there fault that the TNA became the biggest opposition party.. And thier leader became the leader of the opposition by default

And yes i agree on the JVP, They have always been anti separatist at times to fanatical levels and even that party has accepted the legitimacy of Sambandan's position

You keep pushing fringe groups to the corner they have no option than to be fanatical, Because they are not answerable to the majority but if you bring them in the open to the national platform, They have no option but to tow the majority line.. Sambandan now has to represent the whole country not just his constituency, He has no option, Do you think as the leader of the opposition he could only concentrate on Tamil issues ? I'm surprised as a learned person and a poster i admire like you could be that ignorant of Parliamentary proceedings..

Petty that narrow nationalistic view points cannot see that, there are such lessons from all over the world, From Chechnya, Northern Ireland to Guatemala and Nicaragua

As it stands the TNA is the largest party in the opposition it is thier legitimate right to appoint the opposition leader.. What would the whole world think if the government and the speaker did not grant them that ? That the Sri Lankan government is not even ready to accept a legitimate claim how will they grant answers to the grievances of the minorities.. Who would gain from such a thing ? Think a bit.. It's not the ideal situation but the best out of it

 

[samv]

Heard on the grapevine: Prabhakaran would have got Minister of Defence from the yahapalanaya mob if he was alive today.

Machang! You keep pushing fringe groups to the corner they have no option than to be fanatical, Because they are not answerable to the majority but if you bring them in the open to the national platform, They have no option but to tow the majority line... PRABHAKARAN FOR MINISTER OF DEFENCE.

ANEY HUKAY.

 

[HeinzG]

Karuna and Pilleyan doesn't give a damn about the country, they are just greedy opportunists like Douglas Devananda, are you dumb enough not to see it and now they support the government. They are typical opportunists who joined Mahinda for money and power

Speak to the point. Karuna and Pilleyan has not taken the separatist slogan like the TNA.

 

[Godman]

Speak to the point. Karuna and Pilleyan has not taken the separatist slogan like the TNA.

Both sides did but both sides have abandoned those ideologies

Petty that narrow nationalistic view points cannot see that, there are such lessons from all over the world, From Chechnya, Northern Ireland to Guatemala and Nicaragua

Zimbabwe ,N.Korea and Somalia are better examples.
All three went up initially but after that went crashing down. Somalia took the hardest fall and became the best example for a failed state

Lets see, these people are behaving like ballo....anyway we need to inform the ppl and retain the MR support

No one is forcing anyone to believe in anyone, you keep informing the people and try to keep MR's personality cult alive that is not a bad thing

 

[HeinzG]

Mate.. If the SLPF are not greedy for the minister ships they can leave tomorrow and form a strong opposition.. Why arnt they doing that ? Nobody overlooked them.. They decided themselves.. If they're such patriots they should do it.. Why is Mahinda Rajapaksa silent ? Is'nt he the god of Sinhalese nationalists? Is'nt it there fault that the TNA became the biggest opposition party.. And thier leader became the leader of the opposition by default

SLFP is led by the notorious UNP backer MS. He has decided as the party leader to join with the UNP and take ministerial positions. Mahinda cannot do anything to stop it. There fore it is not right to blame him for the current fiasco.

You keep pushing fringe groups to the corner they have no option than to be fanatical, Because they are not answerable to the majority but if you bring them in the open to the national platform, They have no option but to tow the majority line.. Sambandan now has to represent the whole country not just his constituency, He has no option, Do you think as the leader of the opposition he could only concentrate on Tamil issues ? I'm surprised as a learned person and a poster i admire like you could be that ignorant of Parliamentary proceedings..

What will Sambanthan get by playing for the majority? Nothing.
What will he loose? Nothing.

So he will do what ever he likes with newly granted powers of the opp. leader. What shall we do then?

Petty that narrow nationalistic view points cannot see that, there are such lessons from all over the world, From Chechnya, Northern Ireland to Guatemala and Nicaragua

Yeah right. You have chosen very vibrant multi ethnic communities. God save us if Sri Lanka to go down with the said countries.

Both sides did but both sides have abandoned those ideologies

Where did TNA abandoned the separate state ideology. You may be blind. But I'm not.

Zimbabwe ,N.Korea and Somalia are better examples.
All three went up initially but after that went crashing down. Somalia took the hardest fall and became the best example for a failed state

How come you compare Sri Lanka with these countries? What is the base?

 

[Gibbs]

SLFP is led by the notorious UNP backer MS. He has decided as the party leader to join with the UNP and take ministerial positions. Mahinda cannot do anything to stop it. There fore it is not right to blame him for the current fiasco.



What will Sambanthan get by playing for the majority? Nothing.
What will he loose? Nothing.

So he will do what ever he likes with newly granted powers of the opp. leader. What shall we do then?



Yeah right. You have chosen very vibrant multi ethnic communities. God save us if Sri Lanka to go down with the said countries.

So you tell me what he can do as the leader of the opposition with 16 seats and 7 seats occupied by EPDP and the JVP most anti separatist parties ?? Go ahead.. Can he muster enough votes to pass a separatist agenda ? Can he legislate federalism with it ? Can he set the foreign agenda to it? Tell us

Why he has to play within national parameters is he is force to.. Go learn some points about governance before commenting.. He is the opposition leader, He has no other option.. Why they were able to only focus on ethnic issues is that they were never put in that position, They were not answerable to anyone but thier constituency.. Now he represent the opposition of the whole country.. And the bloody parliament does not discuss federalism or Tamil issues 24/7, 365 days!!! They have myriad of other things to deal with within the whole country.. And for every single issue from Matara to Jaffna Colombo to Batticaloa, Mr.Sambandan will have to be responsible as the opposition.. Jeez it's like trying to make sense to 8 year olds

Your rants are nothing but empty farts.. Common these days with pseudo nationalists

And the countries i mentioned are all successes in bringing former terrorists separatists to the main stream.. Not failures.. Learn something without viewing the world like frogs in a well

 

[Godman]

Yeah right. You have chosen very vibrant multi ethnic communities. God save us if Sri Lanka to go down with the said countries.

God saved us in January from becoming a failed state

Where did TNA abandoned the separate state ideology. You may be blind. But I'm not.

How come you compare Sri Lanka with these countries? What is the base?

LOL You already know it and its really obvious
All of these countries were going the same path as Sri Lanka. Authoritarian dictators ,increasing isolation from the west etc.
All of them developed a lot first but then they started going down just like SL, Somalia fell down really hard when the dictators time was ending a successor crisis came along side a rebellion. They were too late by then.

Both Zimbabawe and N.Korea continued the downward trend.

The way Rajapaska regime would have fallen could have been worse than somalia because ethnic problems were reemerging and the BBS was started problems for no reason other than hate.

 

[Gibbs]

Zimbabwe ,N.Korea and Somalia are better examples.

The countries i mentioned are success stories of elimination of separatism by bringing those forces to the political mainstream

 

[Godman]

The countries i mentioned are success stories of elimination of separatism by bringing those forces to the political mainstream

I know it, I meant that the examples are better to show how bad the country can be because of dictators and nationalism to people with narrow nationalistic views.

Good examples aren't always useful

 

[Gibbs]

I know it, I meant that the examples are better to show how bad the country can be because of dictators and nationalism to people with narrow nationalistic views.

Good examples aren't always useful

People like @HeinzG are Sinhalese Chauvinists, They have enough negativity among them already for anything minutely concerning minority groups, So bad examples just enhances thier views

Saying that i respect @HeinzG as a very decent poster and a patriotic Sri Lankan how ever our strong views may differ, Unlike the other petty childish shit stain that ruin whole threads for nothing