Taliban Can Seize Panjshir in Mere Hours But Want to Avoid Bloodshed, Russian Ambassador Says

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Russian Ambassador to Kabul Dmitry Zhirnov said on Saturday that the Taliban (a terrorist group, banned in Russia) could take over the Panjshir province within hours.
"I think they could take over Panjshir in a day, maybe even in a few hours, but they don't do it to avoid bloodshed," Zhirnov said on air the Soloviev Live YouTube show.
The diplomat added that the situation in the only Afghan province that had not fallen to the Taliban* was relatively calm.
Zhirnov also said that Daesh* attack at the Kabul airport has challenged the Taliban and not the United States, adding that there was a fierce confrontation between the two radical groups.

"The confrontation is irreconcilable. If indeed, it was the IS behind the airport attack, then it challenged not so much the United States as it did the Taliban. Because the Taliban took responsibility for Afghanistan. And in a way, what happened is a blow to the Taliban’s reputation," the diplomat said.

He also said that the Western countries did not ask Moscow to recognise the new Afghan authorities.
According to the ambassador, the talks about the possible recognition of the country's new authorities came after "the West realised that there was no alternative to the actual power that is now in Afghanistan, and the Western stake on President [Ashraf] Ghani had failed."

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[FuturePAF]

Hope The Russians keep Tajikistan in check. A video on Radio Liberty YouTube channel interviewed people that want to go to Panjshir from Tajikistan.

 

[Meengla]

Hope The Russians keep Tajikistan in check. A video on Radio Liberty YouTube channel interviewed people that want to go to Panjshir from Tajikistan.

And friend-- this is where you and I had differed in another thread. I had said that if anyone externally is supplying the Panjshir resistance then Pakistan has the right to interfere--perhaps even overtly. As I said then.. strike while the iron is hot in the fog of war, in light of what happened at the Kabul airport.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

And friend-- this is where you and I had differed in another thread. I had said that if anyone externally is supplying the Panjshir resistance then Pakistan has the right to interfere--perhaps even overtly. As I said then.. strike while the iron is hot in the fog of war, in light of what happened at the Kabul airport.

ISI.GOP needs to do whatever is in the interest of Pakistan. That is how the game is played and no one should have any issues with that!

 

[Meengla]

ISI.GOP needs to do whatever is in the interest of Pakistan. That is how the game is played and no one should have any issues with that!

The Tajiks should be accommodated and I believe a lot of Tajiks are. But if some Pappu in a small valley is trying to gain more than earned then gloves should come off.
There should NOT be any on-the-ground conclave of resistance!! Bad enough are 'govt in exile'.

 

[FuturePAF]

The Tajiks should be accommodated and I believe a lot of Tajiks are. But if some Pappu in a small valley is trying to gain more than earned then gloves should come off.
There should NOT be any on-the-ground conclave of resistance!! Bad enough are 'govt in exile'.

I’m starting to come around to your way of thinking because it looks like the Panjshiris are just stalling for time, and are not genuinely interested in reconciliation. Especially, as you said, after what happened at Kabul Airport. As Biden said in a Feb 26, 2003 article in Foreign Relations magazine, there is either nation-building or chaos. So as the new government in Kabul is nation building it can’t leave the possibility for chaos to come back.

 

[DJ_Viper]

The Tajiks should be accommodated and I believe a lot of Tajiks are. But if some Pappu in a small valley is trying to gain more than earned then gloves should come off.
There should NOT be any on-the-ground conclave of resistance!! Bad enough are 'govt in exile'.

This is a catch 22 situation. If a lot of Talibans are killed in Panjshir, not only it would destroy their moral, it would also then invite other fractions to start to gain hold in there, supported by every group's sponsored power. So the battle isn't just being started because "the Talibans" want to avoid bloodshed. That's the wrapper on the cake to make it sound and look good.

Hope The Russians keep Tajikistan in check. A video on Radio Liberty YouTube channel interviewed people that want to go to Panjshir from Tajikistan.

There is a land border with Afghans and Tajiks. Russians can't sit at the border and watch everyone that crosses over and vis-a-vis. Plus, there are a lot of Tajik fractions inside Afg. working. Afghanistan has become a boiling pot of soup with everyone's recipe it seems.

 

[Titanium100]

This is a catch 22 situation. If a lot of Talibans are killed in Panjshir, not only it would destroy their moral, it would also then invite other fractions to start to gain hold in there, supported by every group's sponsored power. So the battle isn't just being started because "the Talibans" want to avoid bloodshed. That's the wrapper on the cake to make it sound and look good.


There is a land border with Afghans and Tajiks. Russians can't sit at the border and watch everyone that crosses over and vis-a-vis. Plus, there are a lot of Tajik fractions inside Afg. working. Afghanistan has become a boiling pot of soup with everyone's recipe it seems.

Moral? TB moral is always high and they want to get as many martyrs as possible but I doubt this will be the case as Panjshir is in severe mental anquish there is really not much fight left in them despite saying otherwise. I agree with the above assessement that it will take mere hours and there will be no moral or anything as following..

TB wants to avoid the bloodsheed because it doesn't want to alienated it's large portion of tajik fighters and Tajik taliban members because alot of people think Taliban it is self is an exclusive group but it is not it has large portion of Tajiks and Uzbeks who has been Taliban for the last 20 years and these members are prominent'ed within the group they are the once trying to solve via talks and the other talibans will do whatever it takes to please these sections within the Taliban..

Also the competition for the north is between Qari Fashiuddin and Ahmad Massoud because Taliban has to give Qari Fashiuddin more northern provinces but Massoud asked for some of these provinces this also halted the talks. TB is only willing to give Massoud Panjshir province and he asked for 6 provinces but Talibs won't accept and the remaining provinces will go to Qari Fashiuddin a prominent tajik commander who conquered the north or some other Prominent Tajik members of Taliban. Taliban itself is already an inclusive element by nature and the same thing will occur in the Uzbek territories it will go to prominent Uzbek members of IEA

 

[DJ_Viper]

Moral? TB moral is always high and they want to get as many martyrs as possible but I doubt this will be the case as Panjshir is in severe mental anquish there is really not much fight left in them despite saying otherwise. I agree with the above assessement that it will take mere hours and there will be no moral or anything as following..

TB wants to avoid the bloodsheed because it doesn't want to alienated it's large portion of tajik fighters and Tajik taliban members because alot of people think Taliban it is self is an exclusive group but it is not it has large portion of Tajiks and Uzbeks who has been Taliban for the last 20 years and these members are prominent'ed within the group they are the once trying to solve via talks and the other talibans will do whatever it takes to please these sections within the Taliban..

Also the competition for the north is between Qari Fashiuddin and Ahmad Massoud because Taliban has to give Qari Fashiuddin more northern province but Massoud asked for some of these provinces this also halted the talks. TB is only willing to give Massoud province and the remaining province will go Qari Fashiuddin a prominent tajik commander who conquered the north

Ok, watch and only time will tell. If NA in this valley holds out against the Taliban for let's say even a week if that's possible, you'll start to see cracks. Remember, even though they captured the entire country, there isn't enough "labor" to be guarding every smaller city outside of the major ones. And it's not like there is no one disliking them either. Sometimes it takes that one bad punch to put cracks in a much heavier opponent and the fight changes. The other side would still lose, but they'd lose by putting cracks in the entire win. Only time would tell what I'm saying. That is, if the valley holds out.

 

[Titanium100]

Ok, watch and only time will tell. If NA in this valley holds out against the Taliban for let's say even a week if that's possible, you'll start to see cracks. Remember, even though they captured the entire country, there isn't enough "labor" to be guarding every smaller city outside of the major ones. And it's not like there is no one disliking them either. Sometimes it takes that one bad punch to put cracks in a much heavier opponent and the fight changes. The other side would still lose, but they'd lose by putting cracks in the entire win. Only time would tell what I'm saying. That is, if the valley holds out.

The Afghans are not dumb. They would have fought them the first time if they really had a fight in them but the truth is they don't.. All the arms is with IEA whos disarming the civilians across the country as we speak something the gov't couldn't achieve in 20 years.

They are to much attached to this dunya and worldly life to ever be able to mount any significiant chellenge to the taliban they will be cracked down on quickly just like how TB ruled in there 5 years rule during 1995-2001 despite a bigger NA being active nobody dared to chellenge them elsewhere. This time TB is just much stronger than ever the chance of any cracks emerging is much less likely than last time.. They know TB can't be undo that easily and they don't have the willpower or necessary patience to commit to such long campaign it invites to their end and it is fruitless.. Much much lesser chance for cracks to appear to almost 2-3% only or even lower than last time.. There is much bigger chance for cracks in Pakistan upto 15-20%

 

[Aesterix]

The "Mujahidwa" of "Panjsherwa" Bill phaait.
Says the Mujahidwa twitter handlewa.(run phrom Bumbaiwa)