Taiwan's President Ma: China progress 'disappointing'

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27 July 2015 Last updated at 00:03 BST

The president of Taiwan has said that political progress in mainland China is unstable.

Speaking in a rare interview with the BBC, Ma Ying-jeou said he was disappointed that there had been no reliable progress towards democracy on the mainland.

The Chinese government claims the island of Taiwan as part of its sovereign territory and threatens to counter any move to outright independence by military force.

But President Ma told the BBC's China editor Carrie Gracie that despite progress in economic relations between the mainland and Taiwan, the absence of democracy creates a "psychological gap".

Taiwan's President Ma: China progress 'disappointing' - BBC News

 

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@Carlosa @jhungary @LeveragedBuyout @mike2000 is back @KAL-EL @AMDR

 

[jhungary]

27 July 2015 Last updated at 00:03 BST

The president of Taiwan has said that political progress in mainland China is unstable.

Speaking in a rare interview with the BBC, Ma Ying-jeou said he was disappointed that there had been no reliable progress towards democracy on the mainland.

The Chinese government claims the island of Taiwan as part of its sovereign territory and threatens to counter any move to outright independence by military force.

But President Ma told the BBC's China editor Carrie Gracie that despite progress in economic relations between the mainland and Taiwan, the absence of democracy creates a "psychological gap".

Taiwan's President Ma: China progress 'disappointing' - BBC News

As I said many time before, I do believe a eventual reunification between China and Taiwan, but that China will not be the China today and that Taiwan will not be the Taiwan today.

All these "using force" talk is basically BS. If China cannot accept the Taiwanese view on China and not just imposing the Chinese view on China on Taiwan, there can never be reunification done

 

[Place Of Space]

The man is facing sue of Treason in Taiwan. lol

 

[Aepsilons]

As I said many time before, I do believe a eventual reunification between China and Taiwan, but that China will not be the China today and that Taiwan will not be the Taiwan today.

All these "using force" talk is basically BS. If China cannot accept the Taiwanese view on China and not just imposing the Chinese view on China on Taiwan, there can never be reunification done

I agree with you. Reunification is unlikely. It is too late, now. Taiwan is a democracy, Taiwanese are too used to democratic society. Perhaps the outlier socialists in the country would vie for union, but they are very few and far in between.

 

[Carlosa]

27 July 2015 Last updated at 00:03 BST

The president of Taiwan has said that political progress in mainland China is unstable.

Speaking in a rare interview with the BBC, Ma Ying-jeou said he was disappointed that there had been no reliable progress towards democracy on the mainland.

The Chinese government claims the island of Taiwan as part of its sovereign territory and threatens to counter any move to outright independence by military force.

But President Ma told the BBC's China editor Carrie Gracie that despite progress in economic relations between the mainland and Taiwan, the absence of democracy creates a "psychological gap".

Taiwan's President Ma: China progress 'disappointing' - BBC News

The divide between China and Taiwan is very deep and deepening.
The two systems are not compatible and as we saw in Hong Kong, once people experience some degree of the western democratic system, they will not accept the type of regime that Beijing represents unless they are forced to.

I agree with you. Reunification is unlikely. It is too late, now. Taiwan is a democracy, Taiwanese are too used to democratic society. Perhaps the outlier socialists in the country would vie for union, but they are very few and far in between.

We wrote at the same time and basically said the same thing. No way most Taiwanese can accept Beijing rule, at least not this Beijing.

 

[jhungary]

I agree with you. Reunification is unlikely. It is too late, now. Taiwan is a democracy, Taiwanese are too used to democratic society. Perhaps the outlier socialists in the country would vie for union, but they are very few and far in between.

Well, don't write off China just yet, they maybe able to change............actually, I don't know,

All I know is, if China want a reunification with Taiwan, it won't do by enforcing the Chinese View on China in Taiwan. Until this is realised by the Chinese Government, there will not be even close to being able to talk to each other, as they both will be on different level.

 

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The divide between China and Taiwan is very deep and deepening.
The two systems are not compatible and as we saw in Hong Kong, once people experience some degree of the western democratic system, they will not accept the type of regime that Beijing represents unless they are forced to.

Precisely. Imagine its such a hard issue integrating Hong Kong SAR and that's just a city. Taiwan is, in comparisons, a large country of nearly 30 million. Taiwan will not integrate with the PRC, and quite frankly there will be no military take over of the island.

Come on, Taiwan has not been part of the 'Mainland' since 1894; about 121 years.

Well, don't write off China just yet, they maybe able to change............actually, I don't know,

All I know is, if China want a reunification with Taiwan, it won't do by enforcing the Chinese View on China in Taiwan. Until this is realised by the Chinese Government, there will not be even close to being able to talk to each other, as they both will be on different level.

No, they will be unable to change ideologically. So long as the CPC stays in power, no. Perhaps when the CPC collapses? That is the only way I think the Taiwanese will consider re-integrating.

 

[Carlosa]

Precisely. Imagine its such a hard issue integrating Hong Kong SAR and that's just a city. Taiwan is, in comparisons, a large country of nearly 30 million. Taiwan will not integrate with the PRC, and quite frankly there will be no military take over of the island.

Come on, Taiwan has not been part of the 'Mainland' since 1894; about 121 years.




No, they will be unable to change ideologically. So long as the CPC stays in power, no. Perhaps when the CPC collapses? That is the only way I think the Taiwanese will consider re-integrating.

I totally agree with you.

 

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The divide between China and Taiwan is very deep and deepening.
The two systems are not compatible and as we saw in Hong Kong, once people experience some degree of the western democratic system, they will not accept the type of regime that Beijing represents unless they are forced to.



We wrote at the same time and basically said the same thing. No way most Taiwanese can accept Beijing rule, at least not this Beijing.

What your opinions about Catalonia?

 

[jhungary]

Precisely. Imagine its such a hard issue integrating Hong Kong SAR and that's just a city. Taiwan is, in comparisons, a large country of nearly 30 million. Taiwan will not integrate with the PRC, and quite frankly there will be no military take over of the island.

Come on, Taiwan has not been part of the 'Mainland' since 1894; about 121 years.




No, they will be unable to change ideologically. So long as the CPC stays in power, no. Perhaps when the CPC collapses? That is the only way I think the Taiwanese will consider re-integrating.

lol, that's what I meant actually.

 

[Carlosa]

What your opinions about Catalonia?

I have no problem if they want independence and the same for the Basque region. In my opinion, people have the right to decide their destiny.

 

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lol, that's what I meant actually.

I think one thing is evident here, going on separate ways.

lol, a song by Taylor Swift comes to mind:

I have no problem if they want independence and the same for the Basque region. In my opinion, people have the right to decide their destiny.

Either way Catalonians will still be part of the EU. lol.

And will always be under the nose of El Hermano Grande -- Espana. lol.

 

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I have no problem if they want independence and the same for the Basque region. In my opinion, people have the right to decide their destiny.

What's your govt's opinions about Catalonian independence if you know anything.

 

[jhungary]

What your opinions about Catalonia?

What about Catalonia?

They are what Quebec with Canada, the West have a believe system of a highly autonomous self govern state. US have Guam, Australia have Norfolk Island, UK have Falkland Island and to some extend Scotland, and the Canada have Quebec.

This is actually a concept China refuse to believe in. Or else Taiwan would be reunited back with China a long time ago.

I think one thing is evident here, going on separate ways.

lol, a song by Taylor Swift comes to mind:

Either way Catalonians will still be part of the EU. lol.

And will always be under the nose of El Hermano Grande -- Espana. lol.

I hate Taylor Swift, probably the only people don't hate her is 17 years old girl....lol