Taiwan defies China with WWII military parade

[Devil Soul]

Taiwan defies China with WWII military parade
AP



TAIPEI: Taiwan marched out thousands of troops and displayed its most modern military hardware on Saturday to spotlight an old but often forgotten claim that its forces, not the Chinese Communists, led the campaign that routed imperial Japan from China 70 years ago.

The military staged an unusually large two-hour parade of homegrown missiles, Apache attack helicopters and a mountain bike team designed for stealth missions, followed by awards for aged World War II veterans in their attire from the 1940s.

China and Taiwan split during civil war in 1949 and today’s China — more militarily and economically powerful than Taiwan — claims that the Chinese Communists had directed the resistance against the Japanese.

Mainland officials have argued that the Communists’ advice and fighting skills were crucial to the victory. Taiwan’s Nationalist Party ruled all of China when Japan invaded parts of the country from 1931, forming a central stage of the Asian World War II theater.

In one attack, the Japanese massacred between 40,000 and 300,000 Chinese in what has become known as the Nanjing Massacre. Officials in Taiwan say that the Communist forces had a minor role in fighting the Japanese alongside the Republic of China troops, and that during China’s eight-year resistance against Japan they were mainly building up their own ranks and fighting a civil war they would eventually win.

“The war of resistance was led by the Republic of China and Chairman Chiang Kai-shek was the force behind it,” Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou said in a speech after the parade, referring to the old Nationalist government’s strongman.

Published in Dawn, July 5th, 2015

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

The KMT can never regain its legitimacy, no matter how hard it tries. Its record is far too stained with cowardice, cruelty and treason.

 

[third eye]

The KMT can never regain its legitimacy, no matter how hard it tries. Its record is far too stained with cowardice, cruelty and treason.

But here they are making a point.

 

[TaiShang]

But here they are making a point.

Point taken.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Taiwan defies China with WWII military parade
AP



TAIPEI: Taiwan marched out thousands of troops and displayed its most modern military hardware on Saturday to spotlight an old but often forgotten claim that its forces, not the Chinese Communists, led the campaign that routed imperial Japan from China 70 years ago.

The military staged an unusually large two-hour parade of homegrown missiles, Apache attack helicopters and a mountain bike team designed for stealth missions, followed by awards for aged World War II veterans in their attire from the 1940s.

China and Taiwan split during civil war in 1949 and today’s China — more militarily and economically powerful than Taiwan — claims that the Chinese Communists had directed the resistance against the Japanese.

Mainland officials have argued that the Communists’ advice and fighting skills were crucial to the victory. Taiwan’s Nationalist Party ruled all of China when Japan invaded parts of the country from 1931, forming a central stage of the Asian World War II theater.

In one attack, the Japanese massacred between 40,000 and 300,000 Chinese in what has become known as the Nanjing Massacre. Officials in Taiwan say that the Communist forces had a minor role in fighting the Japanese alongside the Republic of China troops, and that during China’s eight-year resistance against Japan they were mainly building up their own ranks and fighting a civil war they would eventually win.

“The war of resistance was led by the Republic of China and Chairman Chiang Kai-shek was the force behind it,” Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou said in a speech after the parade, referring to the old Nationalist government’s strongman.

Published in Dawn, July 5th, 2015

Well , everybody that knows even a little bit of WWII history in Asia obviously knows it was mainly the KMT nationalist government that fought imperial japan. The communist CCP were too small and mostly a rag tag rebel group to stand a chance fighting the japanese(they had to preserve their little power to fight the 'real war' against the KMT,which i think was a wise decision. ). However, the KMT had no choice since it was the legitimate chinese government back then and so had no choice than to fight the japanese who were invading every city theKMT controlled . Hebce most if not all of the fighting againat Japn was done by the ROC/KMT.

From the article: China and Taiwan split during civil war in 1949 and today’s China — more militarily and economically powerful than Taiwan — claims that the Chinese Communists had directed the resistance against the Japanese.


Big lie by the CCP obviously.

 

[XiaoYaoZi]

Well , everybody that knows even a little bit of WWII history in Asia obviously knows it was mainly the KMT nationalist government that fought imperial japan. The communist CCP were too small and mostly a rag tag rebel group to stand a chance fighting the japanese(they had to preserve their little power to fight the 'real war' against the KMT,which i think was a wise decision. ). However, the KMT had no choice since it was the legitimate chinese government back then and so had no choice than to fight the japanese who were invading every city theKMT controlled . Hebce most if not all of the fighting againat Japn was done by the ROC/KMT.

From the article: China and Taiwan split during civil war in 1949 and today’s China — more militarily and economically powerful than Taiwan — claims that the Chinese Communists had directed the resistance against the Japanese.


Big lie by the CCP obviously.

"Friendly" Brits always like to appreciate how bravely and fearlessly the KMT government, which is the weakest and most spineless government in all history, fought with the Japs. How friendly you are, i am greatly moved.

 

[AndrewJin]

Chinese Communists had directed the resistance against the Japanese.

Sorry, in our historic books, your words are lies, just like other lies from Britain.
KMT of course was the dominant body in WWII, however, what most Chinese claim is CHINA, which party is irrelevant.

Ironically, when some people in Taiwan wants to separatism from China, then KMT wants Chinese legitimacy and they think they are the more genuine China. The title should be, KMT defies CPC, not Taiwan defies China.

@mike2000 is back Do u know Chinese in the mainland may dislike KMT, but after all, KMT is a pro-unification Chinese party? KMT and CPC are brothers, but not Taiwan democratic progressive party?

More ironically, some Chinese go to Taiwan to find more traditional Chinese culture when some separatist claim Republic of China is not China. If KMT does't claim it has legitimacy over China, then how can u claim it is you who directed the war?

 

[kankan326]

Well , everybody that knows even a little bit of WWII history in Asia obviously knows it was mainly the KMT nationalist government that fought imperial japan. The communist CCP were too small and mostly a rag tag rebel group to stand a chance fighting the japanese(they had to preserve their little power to fight the 'real war' against the KMT,which i think was a wise decision. ). However, the KMT had no choice since it was the legitimate chinese government back then and so had no choice than to fight the japanese who were invading every city theKMT controlled . Hebce most if not all of the fighting againat Japn was done by the ROC/KMT.

From the article: China and Taiwan split during civil war in 1949 and today’s China — more militarily and economically powerful than Taiwan — claims that the Chinese Communists had directed the resistance against the Japanese.


Big lie by the CCP obviously.

The CCP army fought in lands where were occupied by Japanese. That's really dangerous task. You must know how cruel and tough the Japanese army was. If I had choice, I would rather fight with Japanese in the trench, just like KMT did. It needs great courage and tactics to survive there. And CCP became stronger by grabbing lands from Japanese hands. It's a big achievement.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Well , everybody that knows even a little bit of WWII history in Asia obviously knows it was mainly the KMT nationalist government that fought imperial japan. The communist CCP were too small and mostly a rag tag rebel group to stand a chance fighting the japanese(they had to preserve their little power to fight the 'real war' against the KMT,which i think was a wise decision. ). However, the KMT had no choice since it was the legitimate chinese government back then and so had no choice than to fight the japanese who were invading every city theKMT controlled . Hebce most if not all of the fighting againat Japn was done by the ROC/KMT.

From the article: China and Taiwan split during civil war in 1949 and today’s China — more militarily and economically powerful than Taiwan — claims that the Chinese Communists had directed the resistance against the Japanese.


Big lie by the CCP obviously.

actually, if you look at the last year of WW2 in Asia, the KMT lost essentially every battle against Japan. Most victories were won by the CPC. That's even worse than it sounds, because the KMT had the responsibility and obligation to resist invasion. They were the government. It would be like Lincoln asking the Democratic Party during the Civil War - why are you not picking up guns to fight the slave owners? Are you guys REALLY loyal to the Union? That's absolutely crazy.

Also, the KMT has the original sin of a traitor in their midst - Wang Jingwei, and the original sin of cowardice - Chiang refused to fight until the Xi'an incident. They can never reclaim their legitimacy from this.

 

[mike2000 is back]

"Friendly" Brits always like to appreciate how bravely and fearlessly the KMT government, which is the weakest and most spineless government in all history, fought with the Japs. How friendly you are, i am greatly moved.

I never said they were fearless or whatever. I just said they had no choice than to fight Japan, since they were the legitimate government back then . So they had no other choice. Even though i agree chiang kai shek was not a skillful military leader(mao would have probably done better was him in charge of the governement). However, insulting the KMT (rightly or wrongly) about its incompetence during the war and saying it could have done better(which i agree) is one thing but trying to rewrite history so blatantly for political reasons and saying the KMT played a minor role while the Brave CCP was the hero main fighter which led china to victory against the Imperial Japan will be the biggest lie of the century to be honest.

 

[XiaoYaoZi]

I never said they were fearless or whatever. I just said they had no choice than to fight Japan, since they were the legitimate government back then . So they had no other choice. Even though i agree chiang kai shek was not a skillful military leader(mao would have probably done better was him in charge of the governement). However, insulting the KMT (rightly or wrongly) about its incompetence during the war and saying it could have done better(which i agree) is one thing but trying to rewrite history so blatantly for political reasons and saying the KMT played a minor role while the Brave CCP was the hero main fighter which led china against the CCP will be the biggest lie of the century to be honest.

In our history books CCP has always spoken highly of the contributions of the national revolutionary army led by the KMT, even the CCP own armies(the Eighth Route Army and the New Fourth Army) are nominally led by the KMT central government. If CCP is enough frank to tell the most real acts, I think most people will hate KMT more, because CCP has covered many details about the KMT's millitary failures, such as the Wenxi fire, the Yellow River flood(killing over one million people) that were all directly caused by the Chiang Kai Shek‘s stupidilty, and the split of the outer Mongolia etc. In fact the army of KMT has the bravest soldiers, but it has second-rate generals and the most stupid generalisimo, Chiang Kai Shek. CCP never rewrited history for your so-called reasons, the army of CCP killed over 0.52 million Japs with very original weaponry in sacrifice of 0.40 million people, on the contrary the KMT always like to exaggerate their millitary exploits, for example a general of KMT even proclaimed the KMT killed about 2.76 million Japs in WWII, the number is 0.85 million in fact in sacrifice of over 3.21 million soldiers dead. So CCP is well-deserved to be called the leader in the war of resistance against Japan, which is mentioned first by the famous article writen by Chairman Mao,On the Protracted War(论持久战), in 1938, which predicted precisely the all development stages of the war of resistance against Japan. Even Chiang Kai Shek has printed many copies of this article to his armies to inspire confidence for victory under the shadow of failure.
In fact the most KMT's armies joined in the PLA immediately after they surrendered to CCP in Civil War, then their comat effectiveness elevated sharply great.

 

[sword1947]

we don't care what they do, because we know Chinese won that war, and KMT soldiers are all Chinese, that's all .

 

[jkroo]

Well , everybody that knows even a little bit of WWII history in Asia obviously knows it was mainly the KMT nationalist government that fought imperial japan. The communist CCP were too small and mostly a rag tag rebel group to stand a chance fighting the japanese(they had to preserve their little power to fight the 'real war' against the KMT,which i think was a wise decision. ). However, the KMT had no choice since it was the legitimate chinese government back then and so had no choice than to fight the japanese who were invading every city theKMT controlled . Hebce most if not all of the fighting againat Japn was done by the ROC/KMT.

From the article: China and Taiwan split during civil war in 1949 and today’s China — more militarily and economically powerful than Taiwan — claims that the Chinese Communists had directed the resistance against the Japanese.


Big lie by the CCP obviously.

Naughty naughty mike. Try to read more books to know peanut dictator, OK?

You are lecturing people on what you know less about it.

Try to use your 'brain' for using the word 'lie'. OK?

 

[mike2000 is back]

actually, if you look at the last year of WW2 in Asia, the KMT lost essentially every battle against Japan. Most victories were won by the CPC. That's even worse than it sounds, because the KMT had the responsibility and obligation to resist invasion. They were the government. It would be like Lincoln asking the Democratic Party during the Civil War - why are you not picking up guns to fight the slave owners? Are you guys REALLY loyal to the Union? That's absolutely crazy.

Also, the KMT has the original sin of a traitor in their midst - Wang Jingwei, and the original sin of cowardice - Chiang refused to fight until the Xi'an incident. They can never reclaim their legitimacy from this.

What??? Only the CCP WON BATTLES AGAINST JAPAN?

we don't care what they do, because we know Chinese won that war, and KMT soldiers are all Chinese, that's all .

Agree with you on this one

In our history books CCP has always spoken highly of the contributions of the national revolutionary army led by the KMT, even the CCP own armies are nominally led by the KMT central government. If CCP is enough frank to tell the most real acts, I think most people will hate KMT more, because CCP has covered many details about the KMT's millitary failures such as the Wenxi fire and the Yellow River (killing over one million people) flood that were all directly caused by the Chiang Kai Shek‘s stupidilty kill over one million people, even the split of the outer Mongolia. In fact the army of KMT has the bravest soldiers, but it has second-rate generals and the worst generalisimo, Chiang Kai Shek. CCP never rewrited history for your so-called reasons, the army of CCP killed over 0.52 million Japs with very original weapon in sacrifice of 0.40 million people, on the contrary the KMT always like to exaggerate their millitary exploits, for example a general of KMT even proclaimed the KMT killed about 2.76 million Japs in WWII, the number is 0.85 million in fact in sacrifice of over 3.21 million soldiers dead. So CCP is well-deserved to be called the leader in the war of resistance against Japan, which is mentioned by the famous article writen by Chairman Mao,On the Protracted War, in 1938. Even Chiang Kai Shek has printed many copies of this article to his armies to inspire confidence for victory.

Lool ok the CCP as you said is the one that deserves to be leader in the war against Japan. You are very correct.

However, the CCP has japan to thank for even ruling china today, for mind you, without japan invading china and dealing heavy blows to KMT forces who were the main ones on the front lines (for example in the battle of shanghai which lasted 6months and led to the death of many brave/skillful KMT nationalist soldiers) against japan as the CCP was on the run(long march) and in danger of being wiped out, yes the KMT would have decimated the CCP if not for japan invading china. Even your 'great leader' Mao recognised this when he said i quote:

"(Japan) doesn't have to say sorry, you had contributed towards China, why? Because had Imperial Japan did not start the war of invasion, how could we communist became mighty powerful? How could we stage the coup d'état? How could we defeat Chiang Kai Shek? How are we going to pay back you guys? No, we do not want your war reparations!"
-Mao Zedong greeting Japanese Prime Minister Takuei in Nanjing, 1972

 

[jkroo]

The full text will be stunning for you. What he said has nothing to do with KMT.

Don't show your ignorant here, OK? Are you trying to make up something?

@mike2000 is back

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你们到北京这么一来，全世界都战战兢兢。主要是一个苏联，一个美国，这两个大国。它们不大放心了，晓得你们在那里捣什么鬼啊。
　　　　美国好一点，但也有一点不那么舒服，说是他们今年二月来了没建交，你们跑到他们前头去了，心里总有点不那么舒服就是了。
　　　　可以几十年、百把年达不成协议，也可以在几天之内解决问题。
　　　　现在彼此都有这个需要，这也是尼克松总统跟我讲的。他问是否彼此都有需要，我说是的。我说，我这个人现在勾结右派，“名誉”不好。你们国家有两个党，据说民主党比较开明，共和党比较右。我说民主党不怎么样，我不赏识，不感兴趣。我对尼克松说，你竞选的时候，我投了你一票，你还不知道啊。
　　　　这回我们也投了你的票啊。正如你讲的，你这个自民党主力不来，那怎么能解决中日复交问题呢?
　　　　所以有些人骂我们专门勾结右派。我说，你们日本在野党不能解决问题，解决中日复交问题还是靠自民党的政府。

　　以上是毛泽东同日本内阁总理大臣、自民党总裁田中角荣谈话的公开部分，至于毛泽东同志说要感谢皇军的话则是在和社会党议员黑田寿男时说的，1楼的hongyang0898网友搞错，毛泽东同志发言如下：

　　毛泽东:你们在中国还呆些日子吧?我看到日本朋友就高兴。对浅沼[2]先生遇难，我们表示哀悼。
　　　　黑田寿男:浅沼先生作为社会党代表团团长来中国，发表了很好的讲话，说美帝国主义是中日两国人民的共同敌人。我们继承浅沼的精神并继续发扬他的精神。
　　　　毛:浅沼先生抓住了日本同美国关系的本质，也抓住了中国以及亚洲、非洲、拉丁美洲甚至欧洲和北美加拿大各民族的问题的本质。当时我曾对浅沼先生说过，对这种论点赞同的人有时少一些，有时多一些，但过些时候总会得到大多数人赞成的。
　　　　美国没有办法在各国建立自己的统治，必须依靠各国的协助者，这就是它的同盟军，也就是各国最反动的一小部分人。在中国就是以蒋介石为首的一部分人，在你们国家就是岸信介[3]一伙人和垄断资本集团。
　　　　黑:去年在日本掀起了很大的反对“安全条约”[4]运动，代表垄断资本的政府站在同我们相反的立场上反对我们，用暴力通过了“安全条约”。在这期间，中国举行了很大的游行集会支援我们，我们表示感谢。
　　　　毛:我们彼此支持，国际斗争总是彼此支持的。你们是处在最前线。
　　　　前年浅沼访华时说，美帝国主义是中日两国人民的共同敌人。这即使一时没有多数人同意，但等到人们了解的时候，总会得到多数人赞成的，要有这样的信心。过了一年，即到了一九六○年，日本就发生了那样巨大的变化，反对“安全条约”的运动达到那样的高潮，已经发展成为全民性的斗争了。
　　　　我们两国的关系不正常，贸易也停了。我同浅沼先生率领的代表团在武汉东湖会见时，就说过中日关系中断是暂时的现象，过一个时期就会发生变化。贸易方面现在已经开始变化，政治方面还不一定。政治有两个方面，中国人民同日本大多数人民历来是友好的，战后友好关系还有发展；就是同自由民主党的政府，同垄断资本的关系还不成，还要等候。要分清同日本人民的关系和同日本政府的关系，两者是有区别的。同日本政府的关系也有不同，有所谓主流派和反主流派，他们不完全一致。松村[5]、三木[6]、高碕[7]、河野[8]、石桥[9]，这些人是我们的间接同盟军。日本人民是我们的直接同盟军，中国人民也是日本人民的直接同盟军。自由民主党内部有矛盾，反主流派是我们的间接同盟军。你们看这话是否有点道理?
　　　　黑:反主流派今后如果对中国有更多的理解，对反对“安全条约”更坚决一点，那时就可以说是间接同盟军。
　　　　毛:欧洲国家同美国也有这样的问题，它们同美国并不完全一致。世界人民的觉悟提高了，主要是亚洲、非洲、拉丁美洲人民的觉悟提高了。你们对非洲、拉丁美洲做什么工作没有?
　　　　黑:我们有亚洲团结委员会，以这个团体为中心在开展活动，进行反对美帝国主义和拥护和平的斗争，支持亚洲、非洲、拉丁美洲人民的民族独立运动。我们愿意今后进一步动员起来，加强这一活动。
　　　　毛:非常有必要。
　　　　黑:今年在亚洲，主要的问题是老挝问题。老挝人民争取民族解放，美国就利用日美“安全条约”，使用日本军事基地干涉老挝的内政。最近日本各工会、各政党、各群众团体和文化团体等开了大会，反对美国使用日本军事基地干涉老挝的内政，并且到美国大使馆前示威，要求美国停止这种干涉行为，也向日本政府示威，要求日本政府不让美国使用日本基地。
　　　　毛:这很好。
　　　　黑:现在日本政府同韩国政府在进行谈判，把南朝鲜政府看作是整个朝鲜的合法政府来解决朝鲜问题，这就妨碍了朝鲜的和平统一。美国利用日韩谈判加强南朝鲜、台湾、日本的军事力量，加强东北亚军事同盟。进行了反对日美“安全条约”斗争的日本人民，正在反对日韩谈判。
　　　　毛:反对很有必要。
　　　　最近同美国有关系的菲律宾、台湾、南朝鲜、南越举行“外长会谈”，日本政府因为害怕日本人民，没有去参加。由此可见，日本人民去年的斗争使日本政府很害怕，伟大的日本人民斗争的影响是很深远的。
　　　　现在看来，日本人民反对美帝国主义的斗争正处在第一个高峰之后和第二个高峰之前，斗争是波浪式前进的，暂时处于低潮，是在酝酿第二个高潮。你们知道中国几十年的斗争，就是波浪式的发展，而不是每天、每月、每年都在直线发展的。所以你们所领导的人民运动，是大有希望的。可是，有人感到现在运动搞不起来了，有些悲观埋怨；也有部分人可能进行指责，说你们左派过去的斗争搞错了。在这样的时候，用我们的话来说，左派就要硬着头皮顶住。例如，中国辛亥革命[10]以前，一九一一年四月黄兴[11]在广州领导的军事暴动失败了，牺牲的烈士都葬在黄花岗。失败之后连黄兴本人也跑到了香港，认为失败了，不行了，没有希望了。谁也没有想到，过了不久就发生了辛亥革命，打倒了清朝政府。俄国一九○五年革命失败之后，社会民主工党的大部分人悲观失望，出现了“造神派”[12]，如卢那察尔斯基等人。这些人都是唯心主义者，列宁为了批判他们，写了一部哲学著作《唯物主义和经验批判主义》。过了十年，俄国革命就胜利了，这时“造神派”的卢那察尔斯基也当了列宁政府的教育人民委员，他也不要造神了。我看你们的历史中也会找到这样的事例。
　　　　你们国家为什么到现在革命还没有胜利呢?看来资本主义比较发达的国家，胜利可能比较晚些，其原因就是资本主义比较发达。革命首先在资本主义不发达的国家取得胜利，那里的空气稀薄，易于突破。例如俄国和中国空气是稀薄的，现在非洲也如此。日本的垄断资本在美国、英国、法国、德国、意大利等七八个资本主义大国中还是比较薄弱的。原因是:第一打了败仗；第二受美国的统治。
　　　　从某种意义上来说，我看这两方面对日本人民都是有利的:
　　　　第一，战败了，殖民地都没有了，这对日本有利。日本人民、革命的政党应当了解，这个失败不是耻辱，对垄断资本来说是耻辱，对人民来说是胜利。打败仗是不是好事情，是不是耻辱，你们应当展开争论。有部分人不这样看，认为战败了没有面子，于是他们心中有愧，觉得干了坏事。这是因为他们对垄断资本和人民不加区别，所以得出那样的结论。过去的战争应由垄断资本、军国主义政府负责，而不应由日本人民负责。人民为何要负责?如果说人民要负责，那末大家都来反对日本人民，那还得了!事实上是日本军国主义政府威胁、欺骗、强迫日本人民去当炮灰的。
　　　　第二，被美国统治也要分析。我看一个国家的人民，没有外力的压迫是不会觉悟的。现在日本不仅有本国垄断资本的压迫，而且有它的同盟者美国的压迫，这就很快地教育了日本人民，使日本人民团结起来；并且迫使日本人民做出选择，要么当美帝国主义、垄断资本的奴隶，要么起来争取独立和自由。我老早说过，我总不相信，像日本这样伟大的民族会长期受人欺负，短时期受压迫是可能的。我们国家的人民，也是由国内敌人和国外敌人教育过来的，其中也包括日本军国主义者的教育。日本的南乡三郎[13]见我时，一见面就说:日本侵略了中国，对不住你们。我对他说:我们不这样看，是日本军阀占领了大半个中国，因此教育了中国人民，不然中国人民不会觉悟，不会团结，那末我们到现在也还在山上，不能到北京来看京戏。就是因为日本“皇军”占领了大半个中国，中国人民别无出路，才觉悟起来，才武装起来进行斗争，建立了许多抗日根据地，为解放战争的胜利创造了条件。所以日本军阀、垄断资本干了件好事，如果要感谢的话，我宁愿感谢日本军阀。
　　　　像日本这样伟大的民族应该有独立和主权。日本的经济、文化都走在中国的前面，据说冈山县就有七所大学；我们有个无锡，文化比较发达，但也没有七所大学。我们没有这样一个县可以同日本比的。中国要赶上日本还要一定的时间。
　　　　日本有资产阶级的民主，有国会，这是你们的好处，也是缺点。中国没有民主，国民党就是捉人、杀人，什么也不给我们。这也许是缺点，也许是优点。那末我们有什么出路呢?我们的出路就是学蒋介石，你们能杀人，我们为什么不能杀人?我们进行过调查研究，国民党有手，手里有刀有枪；我们也有手，但没有刀枪。如果我们能把国民党手里的刀枪夺过来，不是也可以杀帝国主义的走狗，也可以搞出点名堂来吗?
　　　　你们的情况有些不同，有议会制度，比较有些民主，不像中国的国民党那样捉人、杀人，那就可以利用，利用它来搞群众运动。我不大了解你们的情况，大概日本的垄断资本比中国的买办资产阶级聪明些，看来，你们也可利用这一点。他们怕老百姓起来。例如有许多日本友人来中国访问，政府不能禁止；我们去日本，他们也不能禁止，但可以给予种种限制，因为日本政府同蒋介石有外交关系。另外，他们也怕共产党。高碕邀请廖承志[14]同志去访问日本，廖承志同志，你什么时候去?
　　　　廖:现在还没有定。
　　　　毛:最近总工会代表团去日本访问了。我们民间来往、交流是很好的，可以增进了解，相互交换意见，交流经验。贸易已经订了些民间合同，大的买卖也开始做了些。我们有煤、盐、铁矿、大豆，可以同日本交换些东西。中日两国很近，运费也便宜。
　　　　黑:完全同意。今年民间交流会更多起来。
　　　　不管池田[15]政府是否愿意，中日两国人民间的来往会多起来，两国人民间的亲善关系会加深，一定会签订友好条约。
　　　　毛:很好，有发展的前途。
　　　　黑:我们年初就来中国，也是为了两国人民的亲善。我们从中国朋友那里听到许多有益的话，看了中国的社会主义建设发展情况，对我们有很大好处，表示感谢，并祝主席身体健康。
　　　　毛:请向日本社会党认识的和不认识的朋友们问好。