Syria says Russian missile defence system ‘ineffective’

[Hack-Hook]

Hamas toppled Lieberman and not Assad.

Much of those people just served their terms and finished.

Also Assad is posterboy for Russian, Eastern European, Chinese, Iranian, Iraqi interests. He's irrelevant. If Russia didn't intervene his regime would have collapsed.

they are gone assad is on his seat

 

[zhxy]

The Russian air defense system is very good. The most important factor is still its user.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Those Syrian operators are either totally incompetent or not trained properly.

Incompetent usage of any system can make it seem ineffective. The problem with systems like S-300/400 is many people see them as a silver bullet. In reality, these systems have to complemented with many underlying systems. If they are not, then it is much easier to defeat them.

Didn't you claim it's the Russians controlling the S-300? Are Russian crews incompetent? Or you lied before about the Russian crew?

 

[Philosopher]

Didn't you claim it's the Russians controlling the S-300? Are Russian crews incompetent? Or you lied before about the Russian crew?

I said given the reluctancy to use the S-300 in Syria, it may mean it was being controlled by the Russians. If indeed the Syrians are in control and they failed in using that system, then this does point to their potential incompetency in using these systems and forming proper layers of air defences.

 

[famoj47521]

told ya russian s300/400 systems are junk...isreali systems are no better either as was proven on Feb 27th, they turned out to be duds. The real winner here are Chinese long range radars!

is that really correct or is just incompetence of indians?

 

[zhxy]

If the Russians operate the S-300 in Syria, israel will have no chance. Good weapons need someone who knows how to use them

 

[Beny Karachun]

look it up!

The Spyder system shot down a Pakistani drone and an Indian helicopter. The friendly fire mistake was on behalf of the crew operating the Spyder, not the missile system's fault. The missile did what it was intended to do and destroyed 2 targets. So @GumNaam should take his words back regarding Israeli missile defense effectiveness.

 

[Pandora]

SPYDER Is an export only weapon system though.

Yeah but uses python and derby missiles which are proven missiles and in use with Israeili forces as well. Dont get me wrong it is not the system at fault but Indians who scored an own goal. Same way spice kits are probably top of the line but leave it to Indians to ruin the credibility of a perfectly good system. Just wait and see the stunts they will pull with Rafale fighter jet.

 

[Beny Karachun]

I said given the reluctancy to use the S-300 in Syria, it may mean it was being controlled by the Russians. If indeed the Syrians are in control and they failed in using that system, then this does point to their potential incompetency in using these systems and forming proper layers of air defences.

You can't play both cards.
Either Russian crews are incompetent and in charge of Syrian S-300 or Syrian crew is incompetent and your previous claim is wrong.

 

[hussain0216]

Yeah but uses python and derby missiles which are proven missiles and in use with Israeili forces as well. Dont get me wrong it is not the system at fault but Indians who scored an own goal. Same way spice kits are probably top of the line but leave it to Indians to ruin the credibility of a perfectly good system. Just wait and see the stunts they will pull with Rafale fighter jet.

Indians have this amazing ability to make a stack of gold look like a pile of shit

 

[Beny Karachun]

If the Russians operate the S-300 in Syria, israel will have no chance. Good weapons need someone who knows how to use them

Russians operate S-400 in Syria bro

Yeah but uses python and derby missiles which are proven missiles and in use with Israeili forces as well. Dont get me wrong it is not the system at fault but Indians who scored an own goal. Same way spice kits are probably top of the line but leave it to Indians to ruin the credibility of a perfectly good system. Just wait and see the stunts they will pull with Rafale fighter jet.

I'm not here to fight Indians lmao but yea definitely not the system's fault it hit a friendly helicopter. The system recieved a target and killed it.

 

[famoj47521]

Indians have this amazing ability to make a stack of gold look like a pile of shit

Surprisingly, they have it other way around too.

 

[GumNaam]

The Spyder system shot down a Pakistani drone and an Indian helicopter. The friendly fire mistake was on behalf of the crew operating the Spyder, not the missile system's fault. The missile did what it was intended to do and destroyed 2 targets. So @GumNaam should take his words back regarding Israeli missile defense effectiveness.

dude...don't have a hissy fit
1. isreali defense forces & missile effectiveness is not anything super outta this world & superior to everyone else...your just lucky enough enough to have complete buffoons as the enemy whose "military's" soul job is to keep their own people scared & the brutal dictator in power, not the nation's defense.
2. As per per our Intel, the isreali spyders were also protecting the 6 indian military bases & ammunition depots that we bombed without getting tracked by the spyders let alone getting locked on.
3. indians still need to answer for how on earth was the isreali phalcon aewacs wasn't able to track a single aircraft attacking the 6 indian military bases. can't say the phalcon wasn't there since that media flop show they present of the PAF F16 getting "shot down" that got debunked as fake was from the phalcon. so it was definitely there operating in the theater of operations.
Conclusion: ya ain't all that...GET OVER IT!

 

[notorious_eagle]

What exactly happened on February 27th?

PAF jets avoided the detection of Israeli made Phalcons and Swordfish radars to carry out ground airstrikes against targets inside India.

 

[Philosopher]

You can't play both cards.
Either Russian crews are incompetent and in charge of Syrian S-300 or Syrian crew is incompetent and your previous claim is wrong.

I said, if the Syrians are in charge then this points to their incompetency. Now if these systems are in the control of Russians and if they did try to use them, then this raises serious questions regarding the effectiveness of this system. Notice the "ifs"? I don't know who is in control of these systems in Syria so I can't comment more specifically.