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Syria accidentally shot down a Russian military plane - CNNPolitics

Moscow (CNN) — Syria inadvertently shot down a Russian military plane after an Israeli attack on Syrian positions, killing 15 people on board, Moscow said.

Russian state media said Syrian anti-aircraft missiles shot the maritime patrol aircraft down amid an attack by Israeli jets in the Latakia region of north-west Syria.

Moscow blamed Israel for putting its aircraft in the line of fire and said it only had a minute's notice of the strike.

"As a result of the irresponsible actions of the Israeli military, 15 Russian servicemen were killed, which is absolutely not in keeping with the spirit of Russian-Israeli partnership," said Russian Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov, spokesperson for the Russian military, according to RIA-Novosti.

In a rare acknowledgment of its military activity in the region, Israel expressed "sorrow" for the loss of Russian life, but blamed the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad. The IDF said it had followed well-established protocols in communicating with Moscow, which are intended to prevent such incidents.

"Israel holds the Assad regime, whose military shot down the Russian plane, fully responsible for this incident," the IDF said in a statement, adding that Iran and Hezbollah were also accountable.

According to the statement, Syrian anti-aircraft batteries "fired indiscriminately and from what we understand did not bother to ensure no Russian planes were in the air."

The incident presents Moscow with a diplomatic conundrum, as the country has a strong relationship with both Israel and the Syrian regime.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said Tuesday Moscow was "extremely concerned" about the downing of the aircraft, an IL-20. He declined to comment on further steps the Russian government might take in response, or on any potential impact on relations between Russia and Israel.

Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman talked by phone with his Russian counterpart, Army General Sergei Shoigu, both sides said. According to a readout of the call from the Russian Ministry of Defense, Shoigu described the actions of the Israeli air force as irresponsible and told Liberman that fault "rests entirely with the Israeli side."

"We reserve the right for further reciprocal steps," Shoigu said, according to the readout.

Anti-aircraft system 'sold to Syria by Russians'

Israel said that its fighter jets had targeted a Syrian Armed Forces facility "from which systems to manufacture accurate and lethal weapons were about to be transferred on behalf of Iran to Hezbollah in Lebanon."

"These weapons were meant to attack Israel, and posed an intolerable threat against it," the IDF said.

The IDF alleges that by the time Syrian anti-aircraft missiles had been launched, Israeli warplanes responsible for the overnight operation were already back within Israeli airspace.

The IDF also says that the Russian plane was not "within the area of operation" while the Israeli strike on Latakia was underway. Russia bases much of its Syrian military presence in Latakia.

A photo taken on July 23, 2006 shows a Russian IL-20M plane landing at an unknown location. Russia has blamed Israel for the loss of a military IL-20M jet Monday.

The Russian military said Israel notified the Russian side about the planned operation only a minute in advance, and that Israeli controllers would have seen the Russian plane, which was coming in to land, RIA reported.

Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Yevgenyevich Konashenkov claimed the Israelis used the plane as cover, effectively putting it in the cross hairs of the Syrian air defenses, according to RIA.

The Russian aircraft was shot down by an anti-aircraft system sold by Moscow to the Syrians several years ago, a US official with knowledge of the incident told CNN Monday. The Syrian air defense network in western Syria is very densely populated with anti-aircraft missile and radar systems.

In February, the two-man crew of an Israeli F-16 ejected from their aircraft when a missile exploded near them, damaging their aircraft as they finished conducting a mission against Syrian forces.

An Israeli defense official told CNN earlier this month that Israel has struck Syria 200 times in the past 18 months to prevent the deployment of Iranian weapons in the region.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/09/17/po...ssian-plane/index.html?r=https://www.cnn.com/
 
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Syria accidentally shot down a Russian military plane - CNNPolitics

Moscow (CNN) — Syria inadvertently shot down a Russian military plane after an Israeli attack on Syrian positions, killing 15 people on board, Moscow said.

Russian state media said Syrian anti-aircraft missiles shot the maritime patrol aircraft down amid an attack by Israeli jets in the Latakia region of north-west Syria.

Moscow blamed Israel for putting its aircraft in the line of fire and said it only had a minute's notice of the strike.

"As a result of the irresponsible actions of the Israeli military, 15 Russian servicemen were killed, which is absolutely not in keeping with the spirit of Russian-Israeli partnership," said Russian Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov, spokesperson for the Russian military, according to RIA-Novosti.

In a rare acknowledgment of its military activity in the region, Israel expressed "sorrow" for the loss of Russian life, but blamed the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad. The IDF said it had followed well-established protocols in communicating with Moscow, which are intended to prevent such incidents.

"Israel holds the Assad regime, whose military shot down the Russian plane, fully responsible for this incident," the IDF said in a statement, adding that Iran and Hezbollah were also accountable.

According to the statement, Syrian anti-aircraft batteries "fired indiscriminately and from what we understand did not bother to ensure no Russian planes were in the air."

The incident presents Moscow with a diplomatic conundrum, as the country has a strong relationship with both Israel and the Syrian regime.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said Tuesday Moscow was "extremely concerned" about the downing of the aircraft, an IL-20. He declined to comment on further steps the Russian government might take in response, or on any potential impact on relations between Russia and Israel.

Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman talked by phone with his Russian counterpart, Army General Sergei Shoigu, both sides said. According to a readout of the call from the Russian Ministry of Defense, Shoigu described the actions of the Israeli air force as irresponsible and told Liberman that fault "rests entirely with the Israeli side."

"We reserve the right for further reciprocal steps," Shoigu said, according to the readout.

Anti-aircraft system 'sold to Syria by Russians'

Israel said that its fighter jets had targeted a Syrian Armed Forces facility "from which systems to manufacture accurate and lethal weapons were about to be transferred on behalf of Iran to Hezbollah in Lebanon."

"These weapons were meant to attack Israel, and posed an intolerable threat against it," the IDF said.

The IDF alleges that by the time Syrian anti-aircraft missiles had been launched, Israeli warplanes responsible for the overnight operation were already back within Israeli airspace.

The IDF also says that the Russian plane was not "within the area of operation" while the Israeli strike on Latakia was underway. Russia bases much of its Syrian military presence in Latakia.

A photo taken on July 23, 2006 shows a Russian IL-20M plane landing at an unknown location. Russia has blamed Israel for the loss of a military IL-20M jet Monday.

The Russian military said Israel notified the Russian side about the planned operation only a minute in advance, and that Israeli controllers would have seen the Russian plane, which was coming in to land, RIA reported.

Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Yevgenyevich Konashenkov claimed the Israelis used the plane as cover, effectively putting it in the cross hairs of the Syrian air defenses, according to RIA.

The Russian aircraft was shot down by an anti-aircraft system sold by Moscow to the Syrians several years ago, a US official with knowledge of the incident told CNN Monday. The Syrian air defense network in western Syria is very densely populated with anti-aircraft missile and radar systems.

In February, the two-man crew of an Israeli F-16 ejected from their aircraft when a missile exploded near them, damaging their aircraft as they finished conducting a mission against Syrian forces.

An Israeli defense official told CNN earlier this month that Israel has struck Syria 200 times in the past 18 months to prevent the deployment of Iranian weapons in the region.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/09/17/politics/syrian-regime-shoots-down-russian-plane/index.html?r=https://www.cnn.com/
Looks like the israelis have fvcked up.....yet again[lol],but this time it was a big fvck up.What oh what is uncle puty going to do I wonder?,its one thing when its the israelis bombing saa/iranian forces,but I imagine its another thing entirely when israels actions result in the deaths of russian personnel.....I suspect little bibi is about to get a rather nasty phone call.
 
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Let's see if this would actually make Russia react to all these provocations now that their personnel are actually getting hurt. Putin has promised tightening the safety measures for its personnel, something that everyone would notice.

I wonder if that would be a no fly zone in certain areas?
 
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Let's see if this would actually make Russia react to all these provocations now that their personnel are actually getting hurt. Putin has promised tightening the safety measures for its personnel, something that everyone would notice.

I wonder if that would be a no fly zone in certain areas?

Putin and Russia won’t do a damn thing. Similar to how Iran doesn’t do anything when Israel/US commit acts of aggression against Iranian soldiers.

Why?

Because the risk of escalation far outweigh any benefits from Russia trying to get bogged in a Cold War over Syria. Putin knows this. 15 soldiers is collateral damage too him.

Putin has already came out and diffused the situation.

People don’t understand how weak Russia is on the geopolitical stage these days. Russia has been in retreat for years. Putin has on paper resurrected the Russian military, but in terms of the military clout Russia has it has been backed into a corner by NATO/US. Russia needs friendly relations with israel.

Russian policy of dubious loyalty to allies has left it alone in the world. All it’s former allies (Iraq, Libya, Ukraine) are gone.
 
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With jews you lose. Dead Russians goyim solidiers = party in West Jerusalem.
 
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Syria air defense hit a Russian airplane and there are gods know how many thread about it ,but I wonder why you guys think its necessary to opening a new thread in Iran section ?!!!!
 
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Syria air defense hit a Russian airplane and there are gods know how many thread about it ,but I wonder why you guys think its necessary to opening a new thread in Iran section ?!!!!

Because the Israeli Air raid was allegedly targeting Iranian arms transfers. So it relates to this section.
 
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Syrian air defence is obsolete. This is one good way to force the Russians to give them cutting edge systems.
 
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Syrian air defence is obsolete. This is one good way to force the Russians to give them cutting edge systems.

Not going to happen.

Plus Israel will still be able to jam S-300 system long enough to fire and flee or fly in radar blind spots.

Israel fired these missiles near a French destroyer and used it and the russian military plane to mask its attack on the open seas. They were long gone before the missiles hit.

Hard for any AD system to hit the plane when it’s releasing it’s payload from 200KM away in international waters.
 
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This is certainly an escalation but as we’ve seen before Putin doesn’t give 2 shits about payback. Remember the 300-400 Russian mercs that we’re killed? Nothing will happen but I have a feeling that one of these days a couple of Israeli planes are going to get shot down by the Syrians.
 
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Syrian air defence is obsolete. This is one good way to force the Russians to give them cutting edge systems.
Why Russians is not giving Syria the coverage of S-400 or not delivering Syria with S-300. Where is Iranian Babor 373 , when Israel frequently targeting Iranian positions in Syria ?
As an alley of Syria and Iran Russia is letting Israel to attack its alley and it becoming untrusted . For a few days Russia will provoke and again it will let Israel to attack on Syria . In the world history I never heard about such an alley like Russia .
 
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Why Russians is not giving Syria the coverage of S-400 or not delivering Syria with S-300. Where is Iranian Babor 373 , when Israel frequently targeting Iranian positions in Syria ?
As an alley of Syria and Iran Russia is letting Israel to attack its alley and it becoming untrusted . For a few days Russia will provoke and again it will let Israel to attack on Syria . In the world history I never heard about such an alley like Russia .

You simply don’t understand how air defense systems work.

They aren’t some magical place and deploy weapon. They have many logistical pieces and need to be part of an integrated air defense network to be truly effective.

Russia, unlike Iran, has a military base where it can set up all the needed equipment to support an S-400 system.

Iran on the other hand, has zero military bases of its own and would have to rely on Syrian military bases and radar systems and even personnel. That would be mean integrating Iranian air defense systems into Syrian defense network. That leaves Iran vulnerable to cyber warfare/cyber intelligence etc.

Furthermore, it’s is logistically hard for Iran to transport all the necessary equipment needed to set up a Bavar-373 or BUK air defense ring. Russia can supply its military base by sea and air. Iran has already tried to supply by air, and it’s assets have been attacked by Israel as soon as it is unloaded and before it can be transported/brought online.

Thus the fact Iran can only supply by air makes it very obvious to even amateur online military enthusiasts on tracking Iranian military flights into Syria let alone an intelligence agency.

And the reason Russia doesn’t give S-300 to syria is simple, it will upset balance of power in Middle East in Iran’s favor. Russia only cares about keeping Assad in power and gaining benefits as a powerbroker ending a major war.

So you have your answer now
 
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Why Russians is not giving Syria the coverage of S-400 or not delivering Syria with S-300. Where is Iranian Babor 373 , when Israel frequently targeting Iranian positions in Syria ?
As an alley of Syria and Iran Russia is letting Israel to attack its alley and it becoming untrusted . For a few days Russia will provoke and again it will let Israel to attack on Syria . In the world history I never heard about such an alley like Russia .
Because all of you FREE nations just talk big and none of you support Russia at all against western war machine. Russia is alone in this unthinkable effort. It have saved its ally Syria from complete over run. Russia is just another European Military power not a super power. Its doing the best it can in its limited resources. Even much more then it is actually capable of.
Russia never had the money to counter Western Investment in Ukrainian Still it went ahead and secured its interests their all alone. Russia stepped into Syria in the face of Alliance of USA,Israel,Turkey, Arab world and France to save Syria. Iran just happened to be on side of Syria Iran is not an Ally f Russia by any means. Russia Made manageable working relations with all of the sides turkey, Israel, USA, Kurds, Iran, Iraq etc. and Russia is the only party is Syria that is engaging all the parties and everyone feels confident enough to engage with them.
I really feel sick to see people taunting Russia when all their governments do is boot lick USA and west. Russia is the only country that still opposes Western aggression to maximum extent of its capabilities and limits(Iran Venezuela and North Korea don't count in my opinion they are too weak)
 
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Because all of you FREE nations just talk big and none of you support Russia at all against western war machine. Russia is alone in this unthinkable effort. It have saved its ally Syria from complete over run. Russia is just another European Military power not a super power. Its doing the best it can in its limited resources. Even much more then it is actually capable of.
Russia never had the money to counter Western Investment in Ukrainian Still it went ahead and secured its interests their all alone. Russia stepped into Syria in the face of Alliance of USA,Israel,Turkey, Arab world and France to save Syria. Iran just happened to be on side of Syria Iran is not an Ally f Russia by any means. Russia Made manageable working relations with all of the sides turkey, Israel, USA, Kurds, Iran, Iraq etc. and Russia is the only party is Syria that is engaging all the parties and everyone feels confident enough to engage with them.
I really feel sick to see people taunting Russia when all their governments do is boot lick USA and west. Russia is the only country that still opposes Western aggression to maximum extent of its capabilities and limits(Iran Venezuela and North Korea don't count in my opinion they are too weak)
Translation Russia only plays for Russia...worst ally you could possibly have, bar none.
 
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Because the Israeli Air raid was allegedly targeting Iranian arms transfers. So it relates to this section.
then what , it belong to middle east , or Arab sector .
the news is Syria accidentally shoot-down Russian Airplanes , its not Israel Allegedly attacked Iranian target in Syria

its a duplicate thread in wrong section
 
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