Swedens foreign minister in Vilnius: NATO membership would diminish defence cooperation with Finland

[mike2000 is back]

A weakling like sweden needs to join nato, a sweden vs Russia conflict will not last more than a day with a resounding Russian victory as a result.

Smart Chinese, do you know how long Russia last war with 'small tiny' defenceless Finland ended before/during WWII???

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

@waz , we are also helping our Swedish friends equip their army.


BAE SYSTEMS DELIVERS ARCHER ARTILLERY SYSTEM TO SWEDEN
28 September 2015

BAE Systems today delivered the first production series ARCHER artillery system to the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration (FMV) during a ceremony at the company’s Karlskoga facility.
The ARCHER system is one of the world’s most advanced artillery systems with high mobility and precision. ARCHER provides fire support that is powerful and flexible, and features high levels of autonomous operation under protection. It is based on proven subsystems and has an extensive ammunition portfolio.

BAE Systems' ARCHER system is one of the world's most advanced artillery systems with high mobility and …

“BAE Systems and FMV have been working very closely to achieve our high-level requirements for the ARCHER program. This is an important milestone as we begin the delivery of all systems for our Swedish customer,” said Lena Gillström, managing director for Weapon Systems, Sweden at BAE Systems, Inc. “ARCHER will provide the Swedish armed forces with an advanced artillery system that focuses on the safety of our soldiers.”

BAE Systems’ employees and representatives from FMV, the Swedish Armed Forces, and the Ministry of Defence were in attendance as Gillström delivered the first system to Swedish Defence Minister Peter Hultqvst.

“ARCHER is an important part of strengthening the Swedish defense,” said Dan Ohlsson, Acting Director General for FMV.

BAE Systems delivered the pre-serial ARCHER systems to the Swedish government in 2013, which have been in use by the Swedish artillery regiment.

BAE Systems Delivers ARCHER Artillery System to Sweden | BAE Systems | United Kingdom

We stand side by side our Swedish friends/brothers in Europe against any Russian aggression.

Archer was developed by BOFORS in Sweden, and is a development of the FH77.
Bofors is now a subsidiary of BAE Systems.
Combined with their Excalibur GPS controlled 155mm round, it may give nasty surprises.

 

[waz]

@waz , we are also helping our Swedish friends equip their army.


BAE SYSTEMS DELIVERS ARCHER ARTILLERY SYSTEM TO SWEDEN
28 September 2015

BAE Systems today delivered the first production series ARCHER artillery system to the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration (FMV) during a ceremony at the company’s Karlskoga facility.
The ARCHER system is one of the world’s most advanced artillery systems with high mobility and precision. ARCHER provides fire support that is powerful and flexible, and features high levels of autonomous operation under protection. It is based on proven subsystems and has an extensive ammunition portfolio.

BAE Systems' ARCHER system is one of the world's most advanced artillery systems with high mobility and …

“BAE Systems and FMV have been working very closely to achieve our high-level requirements for the ARCHER program. This is an important milestone as we begin the delivery of all systems for our Swedish customer,” said Lena Gillström, managing director for Weapon Systems, Sweden at BAE Systems, Inc. “ARCHER will provide the Swedish armed forces with an advanced artillery system that focuses on the safety of our soldiers.”

BAE Systems’ employees and representatives from FMV, the Swedish Armed Forces, and the Ministry of Defence were in attendance as Gillström delivered the first system to Swedish Defence Minister Peter Hultqvst.

“ARCHER is an important part of strengthening the Swedish defense,” said Dan Ohlsson, Acting Director General for FMV.

BAE Systems delivered the pre-serial ARCHER systems to the Swedish government in 2013, which have been in use by the Swedish artillery regiment.

BAE Systems Delivers ARCHER Artillery System to Sweden | BAE Systems | United Kingdom

We stand side by side our Swedish friends/brothers in Europe against any Russian aggression.

Good news! None of the Nordic nations should be forgotton. They are the bastions of freedom, peace and clean living. I hope the British army takes part in exercises with our close friends.

Smart Chinese, do you know how long Russia last war with 'small tiny' defenceless Finland ended before/during WWII???

The legend himself.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Good news! None of the Nordic nations should be forgotton. They are the bastions of freedom, peace and clean living. I hope the British army takes part in exercises with our close friends.

The legend himself.

Any country that can make even the peaceful people of scandinavia to start thinking about joining NATO and increasing their military spending/posture , then you should know that country is definitely being more than aggressive.
We welcome our scadinavian brothers in NATO anytime they want they are free to join. The more Putn ups the ante and gets more aggressive, the better for us.

 

[waz]

Any country that can make even the peaceful people of scandinavia to start thinking about joining NATO and increasing their military spending/posture , then you should know that country is definitely being more than aggressive.
We welcome our scadinavian brothers in NATO anytime they want they are free to join. The more Putn ups the ante and gets more aggressive, the better for us.

Lol! I was thinking the same thing. They happen to be the most relaxed and fun loving people around. If you make them angry, then you have issues.

 

[Transhumanist]

We welcome our scadinavian brothers in NATO anytime they want they are free to join. The more Putn ups the ante and gets more aggressive, the better for us.

Uh, Denmark and Norway are already part of NATO. Iceland too, though it's not typically included in Scandinavia. It also doesn't have a standing military, other NATO members rotate Icelandic defense assignments:

Canada defends Iceland, only NATO country without an army

In Scandinavia only Sweden is left out. Finland isn't a Scandinavian nation, it is Nordic though.

NATO's in blue:

Scandinavia in Green:

Seems I need to update this with more history and less photos:

Nordic Defense News, pictures, videos and history | Page 29

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As for Sweden, I wrote this on another forum in response to the following link and its article, but it's applicable here too:

Sweden’s Evolving Relationship with NATO and its Consequences for the Baltic Sea Region | Center for Strategic and International Studies

They wont join NATO unless Finland is overrun by Russia, there's too much domestic opposition and a fear of over-militarization. Add to that the lack of willingness to provoke Russia any further, and Sweden is best left with its high-level cooperation with NATO as opposed to joining it.

Still, they are a de-facto NATO member considering they participate in NATO-led exercises and operations. Though they don't host NATO equipment. Sweden provides intelligence and logistics including airbases for refueling and ports for ships if requested.

I expect further intelligence sharing and gathering, more drills and exercises, a further integrating of the NBG with NATO - and within the NBG too which has had a command structure problem, but no more movement on actually joining NATO.

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For all intents and purposes Sweden is a NATO member, just without completing the formal process. It's highly integrated into NATO and cooperates significantly including in NATO actions.

Lol! I was thinking the same thing. They happen to be the most relaxed and fun loving people around. If you make them angry, then you have issues.

This. It takes a special person, mostly that Hurshid guy, to piss me off.

Believe it or not, it can be done.

 

[opruh]

The Russian Army, beeing drunk on Vodka will lose their way and try to invade Poland, LOL...

Poland got divided between Germany and Russia during world war poor poland.

Smart Chinese, do you know how long Russia last war with 'small tiny' defenceless Finland ended before/during WWII???

Small and tiny finland allied with nazi germany too bad they still lost Karelia, gosh looks like the northern countries in europe are truly weaklings.

 

[yugocrosrb95]

Poland got divided between Germany and Russia during world war poor poland.


Small and tiny finland allied with nazi germany too bad they still lost Karelia, gosh looks like the northern countries in europe are truly weaklings.

Finland weak? They did far more damage than Soviet Union did to them...

For each Finlands soldier, five Soviet soldiers died... Finland only had 32 tanks and ratio of destroyed tanks in favor finland 10 to 1.

I hope Finland regains its Karelia, Soviets attacked without any real reason. Just sudden. Finland didn't provoke.

 

[opruh]

Finland weak? They did far more damage than Soviet Union did to them...

For each Finlands soldier, five Soviet soldiers died... Finland only had 32 tanks and ratio of destroyed tanks in favor finland 10 to 1.

I hope Finland regains its Karelia, Soviets attacked without any real reason. Just sudden. Finland didn't provoke.

Only thing finland is good at is losing territories to Russia.

 

[yugocrosrb95]

Only thing finland is good at is losing territories to Russia.

Well Finland is Egypt of Europe.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Poland got divided between Germany and Russia during world war poor poland.


Small and tiny finland allied with nazi germany too bad they still lost Karelia, gosh looks like the northern countries in europe are truly weaklings.

Still better than your country China though, who lost land the size of Scandinavian countries combined when Russia seized and annexed your Outer Manchuria(to this day which now consists of Russia's far east. lol) while raping your women, carved out Mongolia from you. lol I wont even start with how the Japanese dealt with you. In short, the so called 'weaklings' northern European countries have a farrrr better record of warfare against foreign powers than your country who has always been at the receiving end of foreign powers(from Britain included) the past century. lol

Only thing finland is good at is losing territories to Russia.

Just like China.

 

[opruh]

Still better than your country China though, who lost land the size of Scandinavian countries combined when Russia seized and annexed your Outer Manchuria(to this day which now consists of Russia's far east. lol) while raping your women, carved out Mongolia from you. lol I wont even start with how the Japanese dealt with you. In short, the so called 'weaklings' northern European countries have a farrrr better record of warfare against foreign powers than your country who has always been at the receiving end of foreign powers(from Britain included) the past century. lol



Just like China.

Sorry but my country is the Philippines and Philippines >>> finland in terms of economy. If you want to talk about China, yeah mongol land is now divided with half under Chinese rule britain is always crying about Tibet yet whole of Tibet is under China you can't even help your turkish nato brothers from saving uyghurs in Xinjiang which is under Chinese rule weaklings in britain easily handed Hong Kong back to China another european country portugal surrender Macau to China too And japan, they got nuked twice by usa, usa is such a good puppy of China it seems

It must hurt for british that you can only look at the past, goodbye to britain's once largest empire, now you only have a tiny country, islands to be exact.

 

[pigtaker]

Still better than your country China though, who lost land the size of Scandinavian countries combined when Russia seized and annexed your Outer Manchuria(to this day which now consists of Russia's far east. lol) while raping your women, carved out Mongolia from you. lol I wont even start with how the Japanese dealt with you. In short, the so called 'weaklings' northern European countries have a farrrr better record of warfare against foreign powers than your country who has always been at the receiving end of foreign powers(from Britain included) the past century. lol



Just like China.

wow a little braitain mock china? look at your pathetic size now comparing to ours, where the so called sunsetless great empire shrink to a dwarf island, and still bragging?

I hope russia will continue to terminate your miserable life on that hopless tiny island, and if they don't, we will be happy to take the job by ourself in the near future.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Poland got divided between Germany and Russia during world war poor poland.

And is now a free and relatively prosperous country.

Small and tiny finland allied with nazi germany too bad they still lost Karelia, gosh looks like the northern countries in europe are truly weaklings.

Finland got invaded by Russia, then allied with Germany, and took back what was rightfully theirs, and stopped. They could have made life much more difficult for the Russians, but choose not to.
This resulted in Soviet did not occupy Finland, unlike they did to many other Eastern/Central European countries.

Luckily now they are all free from their occupiers.

wow a little braitain mock china? look at your pathetic size now comparing to ours, where the so called sunsetless great empire shrink to a dwarf island, and still bragging?

I hope russia will continue to terminate your miserable life on that hopless tiny island, and if they don't, we will be happy to take the job by ourself in the near future.

If people have a choice where to live, they prefer London to Peking.
That includes Russian and Chinese people. nuff said!

Sorry but my country is the Philippines and Philippines >>> finland in terms of economy. If you want to talk about China, yeah mongol land is now divided with half under Chinese rule britain is always crying about Tibet yet whole of Tibet is under China you can't even help your turkish nato brothers from saving uyghurs in Xinjiang which is under Chinese rule weaklings in britain easily handed Hong Kong back to China another european country portugal surrender Macau to China too And japan, they got nuked twice by usa, usa is such a good puppy of China it seems

It must hurt for british that you can only look at the past, goodbye to britain's once largest empire, now you only have a tiny country, islands to be exact.

So the latest statistics shows GDP = 285 for the Philippines and 271 for Finland.
If you look at GDP per Capita, Finland is 20x + higher than the rat infested country of your claimed origin...
Really nothing to boast about, is it?

 

[pigtaker]

And is now a free and relatively prosperous country.



Finland got invaded by Russia, then allied with Germany, and took back what was rightfully theirs, and stopped. They could have made life much more difficult for the Russians, but choose not to.
This resulted in Soviet did not occupy Finland, unlike they did to many other Eastern/Central European countries.

Luckily now they are all free from their occupiers.



If people have a choice where to live, they prefer London to Peking.
That includes Russian and Chinese people. nuff said!



So the latest statistics shows GDP = 285 for the Philippines and 271 for Finland.
If you look at GDP per Capita, Finland is 20x + higher than the rat infested country of your claimed origin...
Really nothing to boast about, is it?
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keep your dreaming to yourself.