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http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/army...arefully-measured-american-think-tank-1468624


WASHINGTON: The Indian Army's surgical strike inside Azad Kashmir (Azad Kashmir) against terrorists planning to infiltrate into India for terror activities was "carefully measured", a top American think-tank said today, adding the onus for escalation lies purely on Pakistan.

"This Indian response was indeed coming. Both as a signal to Pakistan and as reassurance for Indian domestic audiences. Modi could not let the outrage at Uri go unanswered," Ashley Tellis of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a top American think-tank said.

"The Indian action was carefully measured: striking at terrorist launch pads was meant to signal that India has not lost its freedom to retaliate, but puts the onus of further escalation on Pakistan," Tellis said.

Responding to a question, Tellis said the US will, counsel restraint, but unless the administration is willing to turn the screws on Pakistan -- which is unlikely -- India will be guided by its own interests, not American pleas for forbearance.

"I think Pakistan has its hands full right now, it is unlikely to respond to the Indian action militarily, but the larger sub-conventional war against India will continue," Tellis said.

Rick Rossow from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) recalled that the hint of such strikes was given last year, when the Indian Army initiated an attack against terrorists in Myanmar.

"India has also shown other new tools in its confrontation with Pakistan, such as withdrawing from the upcoming SAARC summit, building stronger ties with other South Asian nations, and using closer security ties with the US as a hook to press for reduced military cooperation with Pakistan," he said.

"This will likely keep Islamabad on its toes, though when employing new tools in such a struggle, clear messaging is key so both sides know the others' intentions. This will guard against unanticipated escalation," Rossow said.

According to him, following a number of recent provocations that India has linked to Pakistan-based terrorist groups, the government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi has employed a different set of tools to respond to these incitements.


These tools may not be altogether new, but the fact that they have been the focus of India's response to Pakistan's incitements marks a different approach," he said.

Rossow said while the Ministry of Defence has stated it does not plan additional strikes, it is not clear whether the current tensions between India and Pakistan will escalate further.

"There is certainly little expectation that Pakistani militants, under varying degrees of control by Pakistan's military, will be deterred from initiating further attacks. But the costs to Islamabad of supporting terrorism are increasing, and taking different forms than before," Rossow said.

Jonah Blank, from the RAND Corporation think tank said that after the Mumbai 2008 attacks, India's patience had reached its limit.

"Pathankot was the breaking point. It was probably unrealistic to expect that the Uri attack would fail to bring a military response,"he said.

"The phone call between Ajit Doval and Susan Rice accomplished two important things: First, it enlisted the US to help prevent a Pakistani counter-strike. Second, it avoided jeopardizing the India-US relationship by having Washington find out about the attack from Islamabad or the media, he noted.

"There was never much likelihood that the US would condemn the attack. After an American surgical strike against Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad, any criticism of India for a cross-border action would have seemed hypocritical," Blank said.

"The outcome, limited Indian strike, limited Pakistani response, was probably as good as could have been desired. A stronger Indian strike, or a Pakistani escalation into full warfare, would not have served either nation's interest," he said.


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Too bad those top think tanks are just falling for Indian propaganda, cant they learn something from PDF think tanks? and impeccable "telling the truth" record of ISPR?

They maligned ISPR again and again be it Mullah Akhtar Mansoor (who was not living in Pakistan) or OBL or Operation Gibralter or Kashmiri rebels taking Indian Army post in Kargil (not Pak army, no, never).
 
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This is all stuff being based off news sources and none of it off verified events. So far, none of the 25 countries have given any statement regarding whatever happened.

Hence, it is all pretty useless to comment on.
 
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@waz @Oscar @Irfan Baloch @Horus Can we please stop this non-stop Indian propaganda on PDF?

We have had enough fun on other threads, but can we now put a stop to that tr@sh coming form Indian media and finding its way to PDF?
no I am enjoying this fart of the month

there is no harm either way

if they really did it then there is no point hiding it and we admire their big balls
if they are talking out of their collective arses then leave this thread as a joking reminder
 
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if they are talking out of their collective arses then leave this thread as a joking reminder

True that :) Just like Pakistan is not Myanmar or nobody will be back once they come type threads. Right?
 
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Hi everyone on this forum. My name is Kali Das Jadeja. I am a proud indian.

Please, for bhagwan sake, believe me. There was a surgical strike that we did. For Ganesh sake please believe. Please, please please, otherwise I will start crying!!!
 
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So Carnegie Endowment an Indian propoganda?

High on pure Kabul weed or what?

Are you really that thick?

How much does that take from paid lobbyists, who for other reasons also work for India, to move a Bill against Pakistan or give some supporting statement in India's favor?

And secondly read this:

"The phone call between Ajit Doval and Susan Rice accomplished two important things: First, it enlisted the US to help prevent a Pakistani counter-strike. Second, it avoided jeopardizing the India-US relationship by having Washington find out about the attack from Islamabad or the media, he noted.

Now, seriously? This is what you call "India having balls"? Begging USA to ask Pakistan not to retaliate (if an imaginary SirGKal strike takes place)?

And then they ask us not to call them Darpok/Buzdil. :angry:
 
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This is all stuff being based off news sources and none of it off verified events. So far, none of the 25 countries have given any statement regarding whatever happened.

Hence, it is all pretty useless to comment on.
was listening to Talal Hussain who spoke to Khawaja Asif who hails from border town and Gen Tariq Khan

both said the same thing about India which I have experienced myself

their so called Strikes are mortar shelling and firing on some of our posts and mostly civilians.

my personal experience is that they
they fire tracers at ripe corpses , kill animals etc to punish the villagers economically
Khawaja Asif added that they shoot at transformers as well well to disrupt electricity and shoot at sheep herders and farmers .

sound quality is not good but Tariq khan pretty much predicted correctly how India was going to "conduct a surgical strike" and claim victory

kill cattle, burn corpses shoot villagers or shell some Pakistani posts
he predicted that our forces were ready for any possible infiltration and that has already been proven when their attempts were repulsed and foiled in Kotli sector and they still haven't been able to retrieve their dead and we captured one more guy in addition to Chandu Chohan who is being "debriefed" by some Pashton soldiers about their own version of Surgical strike




 
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Now, seriously? This is what you call "India having balls"? Begging USA to ask Pakistan not to retaliate (if an imaginary SirGKal strike takes place)?

And then they ask us not to call them Darpok/Buzdil. :angry:

OMG! I am shivering! Please Pakistan dont nuke us for an imaginary surgical strike, please dont :'(
Happy now kid? :D Enjoy your troll time now.

Salute to the audacity with which they show off the pride even after getting spanking every single time!

I just wonder what would have happen to that magnanimous chest thumping had they actually won a single conflict forget a war.
 
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"This Indian response was indeed coming. Both as a signal to Pakistan and as reassurance for Indian domestic audiences. Modi could not let the outrage at Uri go unanswered," Ashley Tellis of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a top American think-tank said.

"Reassurance for Indian domestic audience" is the key take away here, as far as I'm concerned. When the government and media whip up such a frenzy, something -- anything -- needed to be done to mollify the masses. So you take a simple border skirmish and turn it into a surgical strike.

This is the take away from other countries too. A drama for the domestic audience. Nothing to see. Nothing to comment on.
 
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