Sukmawati Sukarnoputri, daughter of former Indonesia president, converts to Hinduism from Islam

[Novus ordu seclorum]

I have problem with God that after creation he is 24/7 behind his children and wants so much in return ..Human is better than his God atleast he creates and allows his inventions to work according to nature without expecting to worship him ..

God created humans with innate moral consciousness and rightly judges. Humans do good and evil which goes into the account of humans. God has no needs. Worship of Unseen God is for our benefit to keep us in track. 35-15 O mankind, you are those in need of Allah, while Allah is the Free of need, the Praiseworthy.

 

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God created humans with innate moral consciousness and rightly judges. Humans do good and evil which goes into the account of humans. God has no needs. Worship of Unseen God is for our benefit to keep us in track. 35-15 O mankind, you are those in need of Allah, while Allah is the Free of need, the Praiseworthy.

Billions of people came before me and billions of people will come after me ..Far away from earth if one observe one only can see top soil of earth transforming itself to humans,animals,plants and in to different shapes and back to soil magically ..Source of this magic may be a big unknown for the observer above but not for me who is part of the magic ..Rather than looking upwards foolishly for magician I know it's existence consciousness inside me and everything around me is doing the magic ..I need to look deeper than the accumulated dust to see reality rather than above ..I am living in this wonderful magical world and magician is not seperate from me..

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Billions of people came before me and billions of people will come after me ..Far away from earth if one observe one only can see top soil of earth transforming itself to humans,animals,plants and in to different shapes and back to soil magically ..Source of this magic may be a big unknown for the observer above but not for me who is part of the magic ..Rather than looking upwards foolishly for magician I know it's existence consciousness inside me and everything around me is doing the magic ..I need to look deeper than the accumulated dust to see reality rather than above ..I am living in this wonderful magical world and magician is not seperate from me..

Who are you accountable to? Belief in God is based on who created us.

 

[not_two]

Who are you accountable to? Belief in God is based on who created us.

The wave in a ocean by itself has no identity, it has identity of wave only for a certain time. When it rises it is known as wave, but once it merges back into the ocean the wave no longer remains the wave, it becomes the ocean. We have the illusion of different and separate identity. When we go in, there is no difference, we are particles of that One.
The question of being accountable,created arises only when you are seperate from that One.

 

[Rollno21]

Who are you accountable to? Belief in God is based on who created us.

There are more people in the world who don't follow any religion than people who follow any one religion. All religions are created to manipulate group of people and control them. Mankind has feared or admired the unknown and that has been and is being exploited for various purposes.

All religions have loopholes thats why they are called beliefs, and have to be believed blindly.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

The wave in a ocean by itself has no identity, it has identity of wave only for a certain time. When it rises it is known as wave, but once it merges back into the ocean the wave no longer remains the wave, it becomes the ocean. We have the illusion of different and separate identity. When we go in, there is no difference, we are particles of that One.
The question of being accountable,created arises only when you are seperate from that One.

In other words, you don't believe in God.
64-2 It is He who created you, and among you is the disbeliever, and among you is the believer. And Allah, of what you do, is Seeing.

 

[not_two]

In other words, you don't believe in God.
64-2 It is He who created you, and among you is the disbeliever, and among you is the believer. And Allah, of what you do, is Seeing.

No I am just saying he is not seperate .
It doesn't require much effort to put every unknown in to a basket and call it God ..Instill little fear of hell and attractions of heaven you will get a basic model of workable society ..Basic model of every society is same ..Need hunger for deapth or it just needs a dead wood to flow with the flow..

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

All religions are created to manipulate group of people and control them. Mankind has feared or admired the unknown and that has been and is being exploited for various purposes.

42-6 And those who take as allies other than Him - Allah is [yet] Guardian over them; and you are not over them a manager.

What you said sounds like an excuse. Belief is the individual's relationship to his Creator, indepedent of what others may say or do. Disbelievers can manipulate or exploit ideologies for the sake of power, wealth status. They can use anything, including religion. That is why at the heart of religion is belief which has faith accountable to God.

It doesn't require much effort to put every unknown in to a basket and call it God ..Instill little fear of hell and attractions of heaven you will get a basic model of workable society ..Basic model of every society is same ..Need hunger for deapth , it just needs a dead wood to flow with the flow..

Belief is the conscious realization of our Creator which logically means accountability. Disbelief leads you into making up mumbo jumbo philosophy to justify disbelief.

 

[not_two]

42-6 And those who take as allies other than Him - Allah is [yet] Guardian over them; and you are not over them a manager.

What you said sounds like an excuse. Belief is the individual's relationship to his Creator, indepedent of what others may say or do. Disbelievers can manipulate or exploit ideologies for the sake of power, wealth status. They can use anything, including religion. That is why at the heart of religion is belief which has faith accountable to God.

Belief is the conscious realization of our Creator which logically means accountability. Disbelief leads you into making up mumbo jumbo philosophy to justify disbelief.

Belief and realisation are two opposite ends ..When one grows from belief to realisation the creator merges with creation and becomes one ..Just belief wont remove the illusion of seperation.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Belief and realisation are two opposite ends ..When one grows from belief to realisation the creator merges with creation and becomes one ..Just belief wont remove the illusion of seperation.

Did you create the universe and humans?

 

[not_two]

Did you create the universe and humans?

A wave can't create an ocean but in reality everything is water ..Wave is just name and form ..

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

No I am just saying he is not seperate .
It doesn't require much effort to put every unknown in to a basket and call it God ..Instill little fear of hell and attractions of heaven you will get a basic model of workable society ..Basic model of every society is same ..Need hunger for deapth or it just need

There are more people in the world who don't follow any religion than people who follow any one religion. All religions are created to manipulate group of people and control them. Mankind has feared or admired the unknown and that has been and is being exploited for various purposes.

All religions have loopholes thats why they are called beliefs, and have to be believed blindly.

You forgot Godless ideologies. The most tyrannical society in the world is North Korea. Maybe they can go to the bathroom there without permission of their man god leader.

A wave can't create an ocean but in reality everything is water ..Wave is just name and form ..

More mumbo jumbo to justify disbelief.

Creation and Creator are separate. You did not create the universe and life on earth. Thus, logically you are not merged with Creator.

 

[not_two]

You forgot Godless ideologies. The most tyrannical society in the world is North Korea. Maybe they can go to the bathroom there without permission of their man god leader.

What's the difference ? One is in flesh holding a gun , yours is without flesh architect of hell ..Both are same , if one kneel down and worship both will invite you with wine and women..
Avoid both if you believe in yourself or else flow with the flow..

You forgot Godless ideologies. The most tyrannical society in the world is North Korea. Maybe they can go to the bathroom there without permission of their man god leader.

More mumbo jumbo to justify disbelief.

Creation and Creator are separate. You did not create the universe and life on earth. Thus, logically you are not merged with Creator.

Creation and creator are one just like wave and water ..

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

What's the difference ? One is in flesh holding a gun , yours is without flesh architect of hell ..Both are same , if one kneel down and worship both will invite you with wine and women..
Avoid both if you believe in yourself or else flow with the flow..

We are born free of tyranny under the unseen God. God judges humans, including the wannabe-God tyrant who seeks to deprive people of their God given rights.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Creation and creator are one just like wave and water ..

The visible universe is 95 billion light years across and much bigger beyond. We are not the creator of the universe and life. This is a factual statement. True religion is about the truth.