Submarine Group 7 Strengthens Ties with the Indonesian Submarine Force

[cnleio]

How is Indonesia relationship with Chine? does it also need to improve its forces against CHinese claim?

LOL ... both nations held cooperation more than against, for example China exported anti-ship missiles and CIWS to Indonesia Navy, PLA and Indonesia Army held military exercises since 2011. Now Indo-China governments have the good relationship.

We wish for more military cooperation, even export submarines.

 

[Indos]

How is Indonesia relationship with Chine? does it also need to improve its forces against CHinese claim?

So far so good. There are even some military cooperation between the two. In Indonesian side, as a leader of ASEAN (and regional power on the region along with Australia) we need to a bit assertive for the sake of other ASEAN members interest who has had some disputed area in SCS with China, so some time maybe a bit hawkish comment comes, just to show that we are not a passive power in region.

We are not joining in anti-China club so far, just want to anticipate some possibility in the future that the region can possibly become hostile, so more fire power is needed. Even we bought some China weapon like C-705 and there is some cooperation in rocket and missile development even though hasnt yet been materialized, just on paper.

 

[Viet]

Submarine Group 7 Strengthens Ties with the Indonesian Submarine Force

Story Number: NNS150420-12 Release Date: 4/20/2015 10:52:00 AM

By Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Brian G. Reynolds, Commander, Submarine Group 7 Deputy Public Affairs Officer

FLEET ACTIVITIES YOKOSUKA, Japan (NNS) -- Rear Adm. William R. Merz, Commander, Submarine Group 7 (COMSUBGRU 7), met with representatives from the Indonesian submarine force in Surabaya, Indonesia, on April 14 in order to strengthen a dynamic working relationship between the two navies.

The primary focus of the staff talks was to establish routine periodic regional engagements and operations to integrate the Indonesian submarine force as a partner and ally in the Pacific.

The engagements will include training opportunities between the two navies that will focus on integrating U.S. and Indonesian submarine force capabilities.

The staff talks followed a table top Simulated Submarine Casualty Exercise (SMASHEX), where COMSUBGRU 7, U.S. Navy Submarine Rescue Command, and International Submarine Escape and Rescue Liaison Office worked with the Indonesian navy during a simulated submarine rescue training.

The Indonesian navy is the largest navy in Southeast Asia based on the number of active personnel and ships.

Submarine Group 7 Strengthens Ties with the Indonesian Submarine Force

indonesia "as a partner and ally in the Pacific"?
hm...I wonder who is your perceived enemy in the pacific? I guess russia and china.

So far so good. There are even some military cooperation between the two. In Indonesian side, as a leader of ASEAN (and regional power on the region along with Australia) we need to a bit assertive for the sake of other ASEAN members interest who has had some disputed area in SCS with China, so some time maybe a bit hawkish comment comes, just to show that we are not a passive power in region.

We are not joining in anti-China club so far, just want to anticipate some possibility in the future that the region can possibly become hostile, so more fire power is needed. Even we bought some China weapon like C-705 and there is some cooperation in rocket and missile development even though hasnt yet been materialized, just on paper.

you and your asean leader bullshit.
when will you realise there is NO such thing in the asean community? stop masturbating on this fourm. go back to your home and do there.

 

[Nike]

How is Indonesia relationship with Chine? does it also need to improve its forces against CHinese claim?

To be honest, what made us more worry is the spillover of conflict between South Chinese Sea claimants....... you can name in Politics, economics and so on, there will be major impact for all of us in the region if South China Sea became the location of conflict even a small and limited conflict still will bring a major impact

 

[Indos]

Why this guy (Viet) is so sensitive...................

 

[Nike]

Why this guy (Viet) is so sensitive...................

because he got his period

 

[dlclong]

How is Indonesia relationship with Chine? does it also need to improve its forces against CHinese claim?

China and Indonesia no territorial dispute, why join the team?
Why not take advantage of the power of China, to develop their own strength? LoL
Why give yourself to find the enemy?

 

[Viet]

Why this guy (Viet) is so sensitive...................

if I call you as slave or nigger, how will you react? if you complain, I call say to you "why so sensitive?". if you want to get respect, respect others. I recommend this basic rule to you.

because he got his period

no, it is you that gets such a thing a month.

 

[Kamil_baku]

To be honest, what made us more worry is the spillover of conflict between South Chinese Sea claimants....... you can name in Politics, economics and so on, there will be major impact for all of us in the region if South China Sea became the location of conflict even a small and limited conflict still will bring a major impact

I believe, Indonesia, can be a game changer in ASEAN region. Thats why, USA and Japan will offer more to get it on their side. Thats the best politic, being in the middle, everybody try to offer more to get you, but at the same time, not to loose you!!
Also, you might receive CHinese investment, which Chine needs another cheaper country to keep its cost effective manufacturing..
But, if CHine gets stronger in the region, its also not going to be good for you in a long run!
Good luck to Indonesia.. I think, Indonesia should also connect itself with Turkey and other Muslim powers, which so far they lack of this policy to be honest. Getting Turkish army technology and TOT, will still keep it in the middle of powers and they still will be a huge power.
purchasing Chinese missile, means that you basically cant use it against them!! just to explian my idea..

 

[Nike]

SURABAYA, Indonesia (April 14, 2015) Rear Adm. William R. Merz, Commander, Submarine Group 7, examines a chart with members of the Indonesian submarine force. Merz met with representatives from the Indonesian submarine force in order to strengthen a dynamic working relationship between the two navies. (U.S. Navy photo by Lt. Matthew Linsley/Released)

DVIDS - Images - Indonesian submarine force

 

[NarThoD]

Why this guy (Viet) is so sensitive...................

Haha it's fine, everyone in this forum know who's better so far i didn't see Vietnam in any ranking.

I believe, Indonesia, can be a game changer in ASEAN region. Thats why, USA and Japan will offer more to get it on their side. Thats the best politic, being in the middle, everybody try to offer more to get you, but at the same time, not to loose you!!
Also, you might receive CHinese investment, which Chine needs another cheaper country to keep its cost effective manufacturing..

China invest heavily in Indonesia in recent years, but President Joko Widodo try to balancing it by visit Japan and enforce them to invest a lot in Indonesia too.

I forget the link, maybe @Nihonjin1051 could give me some details?

 

[cnleio]

I believe, Indonesia, can be a game changer in ASEAN region. Thats why, USA and Japan will offer more to get it on their side. Thats the best politic, being in the middle, everybody try to offer more to get you, but at the same time, not to loose you!!
Also, you might receive CHinese investment, which Chine needs another cheaper country to keep its cost effective manufacturing..
But, if CHine gets stronger in the region, its also not going to be good for you in a long run!
Good luck to Indonesia.. I think, Indonesia should also connect itself with Turkey and other Muslim powers, which so far they lack of this policy to be honest. Getting Turkish army technology and TOT, will still keep it in the middle of powers and they still will be a huge power.
purchasing Chinese missile, means that you basically cant use it against them!! just to explian my idea..

Turkey, Turkey, Turkey ... u forget bought China B611 IRBM, WS-1 MLRS and HQ-9 deal.
Good luck to new superpower.

 

[Kamil_baku]

Turkey, Turkey, Turkey ... u forget bought China B611 IRBM, WS-1 MLRS and HQ-9 deal.
Good luck to new superpower.

so what? how poor mentality you chinese video games kid got? shame on you!!! the problem is you can not buy honor with $, im sure you Chenese cant even understand why not..
We received missile technology from you, instead we just let today Chenese Aircraft carrier pass from Istanbul, which you just begged us for several years. However, now we produce missile technology for f35, the best in its class
Lockheed Martin and Turkey's Roketsan sign F-35 missile deal| Reuters
thats the difference between our nations.
You took all you technology from Russia, well, actually copied..
HQ-9 will not happen, because Turkish companies Roketsan and Aselsan mentioned that they are able to develop long range air defense system after they tested short and medium range, which are called Hisar-A and Hisar-O.
I really think it doesnt even worst to talk a person like you, who turns the whole conversation to his low level. For you guys, im strong, thats it. im sorry but, forum is here to discuss and learn thing. Go to play your call of duty otherwise..
Peace of ***

 

[Aepsilons]

How about a simulated submarine battle between the Pakistani and Indonesian navies ?

Lets see who wins in the Experience (us) vs Technology (you) game ?

Can JMSDF play with Pakistan Navy, too?

Haha it's fine, everyone in this forum know who's better so far i didn't see Vietnam in any ranking.


China invest heavily in Indonesia in recent years, but President Joko Widodo try to balancing it by visit Japan and enforce them to invest a lot in Indonesia too.

I forget the link, maybe @Nihonjin1051 could give me some details?

There is growth in ties between the JMSDF and the IN. I hope to see more cooperation, more joint exercises as well. Anyways, a picture of a JMSDF Destroyer Squadron making a port visit to Indonesia and friendly game with Japanese and Indonesian sailors.

 

[cnleio]

so what? how poor mentality you chinese video games kid got? shame on you!!! the problem is you can not buy honor with $, im sure you Chenese cant even understand why not..
We received missile technology from you, instead we just let today Chenese Aircraft carrier pass from Istanbul, which you just begged us for several years. However, now we produce missile technology for f35, the best in its class
Lockheed Martin and Turkey's Roketsan sign F-35 missile deal| Reuters
thats the difference between our nations.
You took all you technology from Russia, well, actually copied..
HQ-9 will not happen, because Turkish companies Roketsan and Aselsan mentioned that they are able to develop long range air defense system after they tested short and medium range, which are called Hisar-A and Hisar-O.
I really think it doesnt even worst to talk a person like you, who turns the whole conversation to his low level. For you guys, im strong, thats it. im sorry but, forum is here to discuss and learn thing. Go to play your call of duty otherwise..
Peace of ***

Missile tech for F-35 ... LOL, keep ur assembly line of F-16 + A-129 + F-35 components, don't easily call American design is urs.

When China sell domestic weapons into ur neighours, u r busying copy West tech & Assemble their weapons like: America F-16, Italy A-129, Korea K-9 SPG, China B611 IRBM, China WS-1 MLRS, Korea+Germany Tank, Amercia FFG, Germany sub.