Su-35 for Pakistan Air force on the way !

[The SC]

With the piece of news update last two months ago, personally Pakistan Air force lacks a top of the line air superiority aircraft besides the already well above average JF-17 basic version not counting block II /III.
This will be over confidence boost for morale to equipment supplied by Our new long awaited friend.
The mighty SU 35 is a deal breaker between dog fights of future to air superiority role fighters with our bully neighbor purchasing The French Rafeal of 36 ready of the shelf versions that can be a great problem for country Pakistan.
I was hoping last June when the news broke out the purchase of SU 35 for Pakistan Air force would go ahead & today we are 1 step closer to hearing jet sound barrier braking from a Pakistan Air force flying in green Su-35 as we say in Pa-Russki hirosho comrade da da da !

Pak-Russia talks on delivery of Su-35, Mi-35s underway: Russian Deputy FM

NIZHYNY TAGIL: Pakistan and Russia are in talks about the delivery of Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets and previously agreed upon delivery of Mi-35M helicopters, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister (FM) Sergei Ryabkov said, Sputnik reported.


Earlier this year, a draft contract for the delivery of four Mi-35M ‘Hind E’ combat helicopters was sent to Pakistan from Russia, a source in the Russian military and technical cooperation was quoted by the Russian news agency TASS.


Increasing military cooperation between Islamabad and Moscow would not negatively impact Russia’s ties with India, Ryabkov said, adding that Pak-Russia ties were improving in other sectors as well ─ including energy.


The Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov referred to Pakistan as Russia’s closest partner and said, “I do not think that the contacts under discussion will cause jealousy on the part of any of the two sides.”


The twin-engine Su-35 is a fourth generation multi-role combat aircraft which also incorporates technology from fifth generation jets, according to details available on the Sukhoi company’s website. It is also said to be more agile as compared to previous models.


Read: Pakistan, Russia sign landmark defence cooperation agreement


Pakistan and Russia had signed a bilateral defence cooperation agreement aimed at strengthening military-to-military relations in November last year. The deal had to be followed by another ‘technical cooperation agreement’ to pave the way for sale of defence equipment to Pakistan

http://www.pakistantoday.tv/news/su-35-for-pakistan-air-force-on-the-way/

 

[Signalian]

@MastanKhan Party time no bad words for PAF anymore.

 

[IceCold]

More rumours....Great! Just what the doctor ordered

 

[Zarvan]

I have been saying this for sometime now. Russia wants to join CPEC and are ready to sell us any weapon we ask for.

 

[untitled]

This is old news
The link within the link redirects to this Dawn page here

 

[RAMPAGE]

With the piece of news update last two months ago, personally Pakistan Air force lacks a top of the line air superiority aircraft besides the already well above average JF-17 basic version not counting block II /III.
This will be over confidence boost for morale to equipment supplied by Our new long awaited friend.
The mighty SU 35 is a deal breaker between dog fights of future to air superiority role fighters with our bully neighbor purchasing The French Rafeal of 36 ready of the shelf versions that can be a great problem for country Pakistan.
I was hoping last June when the news broke out the purchase of SU 35 for Pakistan Air force would go ahead & today we are 1 step closer to hearing jet sound barrier braking from a Pakistan Air force flying in green Su-35 as we say in Pa-Russki hirosho comrade da da da !

Pak-Russia talks on delivery of Su-35, Mi-35s underway: Russian Deputy FM

NIZHYNY TAGIL: Pakistan and Russia are in talks about the delivery of Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets and previously agreed upon delivery of Mi-35M helicopters, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister (FM) Sergei Ryabkov said, Sputnik reported.


Earlier this year, a draft contract for the delivery of four Mi-35M ‘Hind E’ combat helicopters was sent to Pakistan from Russia, a source in the Russian military and technical cooperation was quoted by the Russian news agency TASS.


Increasing military cooperation between Islamabad and Moscow would not negatively impact Russia’s ties with India, Ryabkov said, adding that Pak-Russia ties were improving in other sectors as well ─ including energy.


The Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov referred to Pakistan as Russia’s closest partner and said, “I do not think that the contacts under discussion will cause jealousy on the part of any of the two sides.”


The twin-engine Su-35 is a fourth generation multi-role combat aircraft which also incorporates technology from fifth generation jets, according to details available on the Sukhoi company’s website. It is also said to be more agile as compared to previous models.


Read: Pakistan, Russia sign landmark defence cooperation agreement


Pakistan and Russia had signed a bilateral defence cooperation agreement aimed at strengthening military-to-military relations in November last year. The deal had to be followed by another ‘technical cooperation agreement’ to pave the way for sale of defence equipment to Pakistan

http://www.pakistantoday.tv/news/su-35-for-pakistan-air-force-on-the-way/

Are you daft? This is almost a year old news. Just google the article.

 

[Mav3rick]

If true........this would be such a pleasant surprise.

 

[-xXx-]

Ohh so again a sleeping media house suddenly woke up and posted a year old news again which has been already debunked?

I have been saying this for sometime now. Russia wants to join CPEC and are ready to sell us any weapon we ask for.

Right right !! Absolutely right !!

 

[war&peace]

Unless officially confirmed by PAF or seen flying with Pak flag on its tail, it is just speculation...I wish that we buy at least 1-2 squadrons of these bad boys along with 3-4 sqdrns of EFT 2000 but I don't know what PAF has been thinking. They have been undeicded for a long time and we have seen them let many opportunities slip from their hands. They are incapable of making such a big decision while air forces around the world operating twin engine aircraft, the though of the same gives night mares and many sleepless nights to the leadership of PAF...once a dynamic, qualitative force, PAF is slipping into the role of defensive, feeble-minded, quantitative force with cheapest, trash old junk of Mig 21s/F7pg, Mirage IIIs etc... We all know JF-17 on its own won't make a good competition for Rafaels, Su30 MKIs. It has to be coupled with some air-superiority aircraft like Su35 or EFT 2000.

 

[Liquidmetal]

the best dog fighter is the f16. Buy the cheap jordan jets, upgrade to B52 level. buy more second hand f16s and the airforce is still a potent distributor of Indian aircraft parts.

 

[Zain Malik]

I have been saying this for sometime now. Russia wants to join CPEC and are ready to sell us any weapon we ask for.

Yes obviously they are finding their means @Zarvan

the best dog fighter is the f16. Buy the cheap jordan jets, upgrade to B52 level. buy more second hand f16s and the airforce is still a potent distributor of Indian aircraft parts.

Well very bad idea mate....To equip whole airforce with a single jet is suicide......!!!!
Su-35 is a good platform hope Pakistan will go for it and I damn sure they will.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Any other source...

 

[Zain Malik]

After every prayer I wish two squardons of Su-35 from Allah Almighty back from Sept 19.

 

[CHACHA"G"]

As much as I love to see 100 Typhone and 100 SU-35 in PAF , But this thread is based on a 10 months old article or news or Rumor .

 

[The SC]

Analysts Skeptical Over Pakistan-Russia Su-35 Negotiations
By Usman Ansari 9 a.m. EDT September 12, 2015

(Photo: Johannes Eisele/AFP via Getty Images)

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ISLAMABAD — Analysts are generally skeptical at present of reports Pakistan and Russia are engaged in negotiations for the delivery of a number of Su-35 Flanker E fighter aircraft, though there is a potential requirement for such a heavy fighter.

The reports, first published in Russian media, cited Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov as saying both sides were negotiating for the delivery of an unspecified number of Su-35 jets alongside the Mi-35M "Hind E" helicopter gunships that have recently been agreed upon.

However, no word on any such negotiations was received from the Ministry of Defence Production in Pakistan when asked for comment on the issue. The agency also handles acquisition.

Experts are generally skeptical of any Su-35 being acquired by Pakistan.

Author, analyst and former Australian defense attache to Islamabad, Brian Cloughley, said he "would be most surprised if there were to be any arrangement for provision of Su-35s."

"The Indians would be extremely upset, to the point of a major diplomatic rift," Cloughley said.

Though India is actively seeking to diversify its source of equipment from reliance on Russia, and the latter is seeking a new customer that includes limited defense sales to Pakistan, the Indo-Russian relationship is still very strong as evidenced by the co-development of the next generation PAK-FA stealth aircraft.

Analyst, author and former Pakistani Air Force pilot Kaiser Tufail is also unconvinced at present that negotiations for the Su-35 are actually underway.

"To me it seems more like an offer by the Russians, more than anything else," he said.

Many analysts have considered the current Pakistani plan to carry on investing in the JF-17 Thunder program, and acquire further new or surplus F-16s if possible, to be the optimal way of modernizing its air power as well as reducing combat types. A role for such a heavy fighter as the Su-35 has not generally been envisioned.

However, Tufail says there is a possible need for something in this class on two accounts: diversification and to support naval operations.

The Su-35 "being a twin-engined aircraft with vast range (and endurance), it would help us to have a significant and potent presence in the Arabian Sea, something that the puny, aging Mirage squadron is ill-suited for (as is the JF-17 from the range point of view)," he said. "Given the changing geo-politics and the Chinese investment whose trade terminus is Gwadar, there is definitely going to be a need for a long-range fighter. So essentially, I see it as a guarantor of maritime security as far as the airspace is concerned."

Pakistan has never operated such a twin-engine fighter aircraft, but Tufail says this has been a shortcoming.

"This has been a yawning gap in [the air force's] capabilities. These fighters would also allow unhindered patrolling by the naval [long range maritime patrol aircraft], as well as providing top cover to our fleet at sea," he said.

He does not see this as a departure from the established defense posture, but recognition of an existing shortcoming.

"All of this may sound like a sudden switch from continental strategy to a maritime one, but it is high time that we paid serious attention to this aspect in the fast changing geopolitical scenario."

Pakistan's air power over the Arabian Sea already received a boost this month when No. 2 'Minhas' Squadron based in Karachi was re-equipped September 6 with the JF-17 Block II after surrendering its Chengdu F-7P fighters.

Speaking at the time, Tufail said this was overdue: "The re-equipment of [No. 2 'Minhas' Squadron] was due as they had the oldest lot of F-7s. The JF-17 was the obvious replacement."

However, he did not believe it would take over the anti-shipping strike role from the Mirage 5, which he flew during his air force career, even though the JF-17 can carry the C-802A/CSS-N-8 Saccade or the supersonic CM-400AKG.

"This, however, does not necessarily imply that it will immediately take over the maritime attack role. The Mirage-5PA2/3 is still a capable aircraft, though long in the tooth by now. Most likely, the replacement of these Mirages would have a maritime role, so it could be a couple of years before we see a newer capability," he said.

Whether that replacement is the Su-35, however, remains to be seen.

http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...-pakistan-russia-su-35-negotiations/72080268/

So, there is a real possibility and high probability that this might/will happen; the Russian offer is seemingly there and the Pakistani need is also there..
One year old news in such strategic weapon systems is nothing, it takes usually a few yeras of negociations before reaching an agreement and signing a deal..There is nothing daft about it..