Street fights in Hong Kong

[haidian]

Street fights in Hong Kong

 

[haidian]

Can't tell which is which..

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The coming collapse of the HK economy seems to be imminent.

Better to relocate those who want to stick with Mainland China.

 

[haidian]

The coming collapse of the HK economy seems to be imminent.

Better to relocate those who want to stick with Mainland China.

No, should relocate those who are against Mainland China, to Tibet or Inner Mongolia steppes.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

No, should relocate those who are against Mainland China, to Tibet or Inner Mongolia steppes.

Pro-China HKers should be relocated to Shenzhen or Guangzhou.

Anti-China HKers should remain in the island with all the food/water/electricity supply being deprived.

HK's political/economic system is a colonial style abomination, and it shall be eradicated right now.

CPC will soon bring down Li Ka Shing and all the rest of HK oligarchs, since these old farts are the real root of troubles, and their days are numbered right now.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

They are doing nothing but destroying their
city and with it their livelihoods China needs to rein them in for their own good.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

They are doing nothing but destroying their
city and with it their livelihoods China needs to rein them in for their own good.

They don't want to act like a fully integrated Mainland Chinese city, and now they are getting caught in the middle of a proxy war.

HK can become the second Syria or Ukraine, but it won't affect the Mainland China.

 

[war&peace]

I came here for the video game Street Fighters

 

[haidian]

There was no pro Chinese government gathering in the beginning of this months long protest cause people in Hong kong didn't expect that things can turn this ugly, now more and more people joined pro government groups to voice their support for the government, the longer this crisis drags on, the more people will join pro Chinese government movement.

It seems that those pro Chinese protesters always got beaten up by the rioters, those pro China protester are older, more civilized and less violent than young rioters, feel sorry fo them.

This guy says " I m Chinese” to the face of rioters and gets beaten up by them covering with blood.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

The coming collapse of the HK economy seems to be imminent.

Better to relocate those who want to stick with Mainland China.

Well, when is it coming?

China can definitely strangle HK economy if it wanted to, but is it doing that?

When are you people going to open your eyes?

For months you were saying that CCP will crush HK protest, that PLA will be sent in, or what not! Where is all that?

Even the extradition bill has been withdrawn which many of the CN members here said will never happen.

They don't want to act like a fully integrated Mainland Chinese city, and now they are getting caught in the middle of a proxy war.

HK can become the second Syria or Ukraine, but it won't affect the Mainland China.

HK was never an integrated city. It is a Special Autonomous Region with VERY VERY wide powers.

It has its own currency, own Olympic team, own residency permit (which acts like a passport), etc etc. etc.

Please go ahead and do something. I have frankly gotten bored now watching HK protests for so long, and the only action taken by HK Gov/CN Gov is to actually retreat and give up on the whole extradition bill.

 

[haidian]

Well, when is it coming?

China can definitely strangle HK economy if it wanted to, but is it doing that?

When are you people going to open your eyes?

For months you were saying that CCP will crush HK protest, that PLA will be sent in, or what not! Where is all that?

Even the extradition bill has been withdrawn which many of the CN members here said will never happen.



HK was never an integrated city. It is a Special Autonomous Region with VERY VERY wide powers.

It has its own currency, own Olympic team, own residency permit (which acts like a passport), etc etc. etc.

Please go ahead and do something. I have frankly gotten bored now watching HK protests for so long, and the only action taken by HK Gov/CN Gov is to actually retreat and give up on the whole extradition bill.

China is just giving them enough rope to hang themselves, no one in the world would doubt China's ability to crush them. but what happens in Hong kong doesn't hurt China much and won't threaten the government rule in Beijing, that's very different from what happened in 1989 when the communist party was in the very danger of losing power over China, so the Chinese government now just chooses to ignore them.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Pro-China HKers should be relocated to Shenzhen or Guangzhou.

Anti-China HKers should remain in the island with all the food/water/electricity supply being deprived.

HK's political/economic system is a colonial style abomination, and it shall be eradicated right now.

CPC will soon bring down Li Ka Shing and all the rest of HK oligarchs, since these old farts are the real root of troubles, and their days are numbered right now.

If you think that Li Ka Shing and other HK oligarchs are the root of problems, man-o-man, are you so wrong!

The problem for some time has been that chinese analysts and CCP are not able to actually analyse the situation.

They underestimated the opposition to the extradition bill.

They underestimated the resolve of the United States to fight the tech and trade war.

They overestimated their own technological prowess and started boasting about it, which actually spooked US.

China is just giving them enough rope to hang themselves, no one in the world would doubt China's ability to crush them. but what happens in Hong kong doesn't hurt China much and won't threaten the government rule in Beijing, that's very different from what happened in 1989 when the communist party was in the very danger of losing power over China, so the Chinese government now just chooses to ignore them.

I guess, yes, you can crush them. But at what cost?

If you crush HK protests, it will be a field day for the US. US will apply more sanctions and the other countries that have been sitting on the side right now, like Germany, France, etc. will all be pressured to partake. You will lose a lot of credibility and US will sell you, and be successful in selling you, as a rogue, oppressive, murderous regime that needs to be contained.

 

[haidian]

If you crush HK protests, it will be a field day for the US. US will apply more sanctions and the other countries that have been sitting on the side right now, like Germany, France, etc. will all be pressured to partake. You will lose a lot of credibility and US will sell you, and be successful in selling you, as a rogue, oppressive, murderous regime that needs to be contained.

What US can do and didn't do already in a trade war with China? they suffered more and eager to make a deal, its so called allies didn't follow its command and that really angered US, and now they are accusing each other.

China didn't do anything is not because of fear of US, it's because what happens in Hong kong is only limited in Hong kong but doesn't hurt China, so it's not worth it to intervene.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

What US can do and didn't do already in a trade war with China? they suffered more and eager to make a deal, its so called allies didn't follow its command and that really angered US, and now they are accusing each other.

China didn't do anything is not because of fear of US, it's because what happens in Hong kong is only limited in Hong kong but doesn't hurt China, so it's not worth it to intervene.

Oh gosh! You really think that?

The US has many many levers still left.

And you know what, the US is divided on whether China should be considered an enemy and whether sanctions should be imposed. Once you do a HK crackdown, the internal pressure in US will actually increase to sanction you and harm you. So would pressure on US allies like Germany etc. who will almost certainly join with the US.

Apart from that, in Asia you have already made a lot of enemies.

 

[haidian]

Oh gosh! You really think that?

The US has many many levers still left.

And you know what, the US is divided on whether China should be considered an enemy and whether sanctions should be imposed. Once you do a HK crackdown, the internal pressure in US will actually increase to sanction you and harm you. So would pressure on US allies like Germany etc. who will almost certainly join with the US.

Apart from that, in Asia you have already made a lot of enemies.

What sanction and lever exactly do you mean? trade? China does more trade than US and is the world number one trader? manufacturing? China is the king. Consumer market? China is overtaking US and 1.4 billion population market meaning one fifth of the humanity. US allies don't want to bankrupt themselves to follow US in trade, that's why they didn't follow and they themselves also have trade disputes with US.

What US can make that China can't? In US they say God created the earth and everything else is made in China. China's trade and surplus soared last year during the Sino US trade war and China is sitting pretty in no hurry to make a deal.

Maybe you mean weapon, the only field that US still has a clear lead, but China doesn't buy US weapons anyway.

Apart from that, in Asia you have already made a lot of enemies.

What do you mean 'enemy"? China has some disputes with some countries like every country does, but I don't see an enemy in Asia, maybe India can be one, but all Asian countries have healthy economic and political relations with China. China doesn't have a Pakistan to India kind of enemy.