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Strange Bedfellows: What’s Behind the US Sale of Weapons to Vietnam
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07:16 21.05.2016(updated 07:18 21.05.2016) Get short URL
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Forty years after the US military killed millions of Vietnamese people in a brutal war, the belligerent in that fight, Washington, has lifted a ban on arms sales to Hanoi. Sputnik discussed with political analyst Eric Draitser if President Obama’s visit to Vietnam marks an attempt to come together against China, and if such a union is viable.

Talking to Radio Sputnik’s Loud & Clear host Brian Becker, Draitser said that the US President’s visit to Vietnam, a country still experiencing the consequences of a war on its own soil with the most powerful nation on Earth, including thousands of pieces of unexploded ordnance on the ground and generations of citizens poisoned by US defoliation, is an indication of the “power that imperialism has.”

“Despite all that, the US remains a hegemon, an imperial power, a dominant power, wielding influence that we see on display with regard to Vietnam today.”

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Vietnam is seen by the US, according to Draitser, as an interim step to get closer to China. Washington, he asserts, is attempting to prevent the member countries of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) from collaborating with China. Vietnam is integral to this equation, due to its geography and politics. The country has a long history with China, he said.

According to Draitser, Vietnam today is an “independent country that is walking a line between” Washington and Beijing.

“When we look at Vietnam today we should not see it as a US puppet, nor should we see at as a vanguard of Chinese communism in the region,” he said. “While we see Vietnam opening its economy to western investments, western travelers and western tourists, it also has a very strong element that is pro-Chinese, that is pro-Communism. So there are competing ideologies.”

As regards the ongoing South China Sea dispute, Washington is attempting to create a network of non-Chinese states with interests in the region to act as a counterweight to Beijing’s territorial claims.

“The US power in the region rests on its ability to prevent China from having positive relations with its neighbors in the region. As usual, human rights and democracy created a pretext for the preconceived US strategy for the region. It’s about preventing these countries from making their own decisions.”

Washington seeks to prevent in Southeast Asia what occurred in Latin America some fifteen years ago, as the region began to break away from Western political influence.

Draitser suggested that the US today is attempting to influence multilateral blocs, including ASEAN, which historically the US has dominated, to assert Washington-centric policies in the region. But during a recent ASEAN meeting in California, US anti-China rhetoric aimed at delegates did not bear fruit.
 
It's a good opportunity to get rid of some second rate weapons and make some money for their industrial-military complex.

Setup some NGO to promote "human rights" and help to foster the color revolution.

Then, access to Cam Ranh Bay is open to US, with the Russians kicked out.

Wow! This is a brilliant strategic plan.

Honestly, I don't think the Vietnamese are that stupid.

Atm, Vietnam is walking a fine line balancing between US and China and getting maximum benefits from both.
 
It's a good opportunity to get rid of some second rate weapons and make some money for their industrial-military complex.

Setup some NGO to promote "human rights" and help to foster the color revolution.

Then, access to Cam Ranh Bay is open to US, with the Russians kicked out.

Wow! This is a brilliant strategic plan.

Honestly, I don't think the Vietnamese are that stupid.

Atm, Vietnam is walking a fine line balancing between US and China and getting maximum benefits from both.

I am not sure, is it the US army that goes first and then the NGOs, or the vice versa?

Perhaps it depends. In any case, be it Libya or Georgia, democracy comes in one way or another. How much blood is spilt is not considered a legitimate variable here.
 
I am not sure, is it the US army that goes first and then the NGOs, or the vice versa?

Perhaps it depends. In any case, be it Libya or Georgia, democracy comes in one way or another. How much blood is spilt is not considered a legitimate variable here.
Is that your dream: bloodshed, chaos and war in Vietnam, so you can take advantage of?

I suggest if you hate America too much, stop trading and other interactions with the Yankies.

The Russians took a big chunk of Chinese territory, r.. your women, wanted to nuke you and today you never miss a chance to lick their boots.

You have no shame, haven't you?
 
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It's a good opportunity to get rid of some second rate weapons and make some money for their industrial-military complex.

Setup some NGO to promote "human rights" and help to foster the color revolution.

Then, access to Cam Ranh Bay is open to US, with the Russians kicked out.

Wow! This is a brilliant strategic plan.

Honestly, I don't think the Vietnamese are that stupid.

Atm, Vietnam is walking a fine line balancing between US and China and getting maximum benefits from both.
Do you really think vietnam can outsmart China and US? They just embark on the path of repeating their miserable life of the past hundred years. They have the tendency to trigger into a self-destroying mode for every 30 years or so.

Vietnam is perfect target for PLA to prctice its new-developed weapons. Luckily, Vietnam's image have already totally ruined in China with their short-sighted, treacherous and ungrateful nature. Thus we have zero emotional burden or sympathy no matter how harsh we bloodshed them, just like US had no feeling of guilty at all when butched millions of vietnam civilians.

In the long run, we will help Cambodia to claim back the Mekong delta stolen by viets and take their red river delta ourselves, driving thoses viets to the remainning narrow strip to enjoy hurrican once a while.
 
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Do you really think vietnam can outsmart China and US? They just embark on the path of repeating their miserable life of the past hundred years. They have the tendency to trigger into a self-destroying mode for every 30 years or so.

Vietnam is perfect target for PLA to prctice its new-developed weapons. Luckily, Vietnam's image have already totally ruined with their short-sighted, treacherous and ungrateful nature. We have zero emotional burden or sympathy no matter how harsh we bloodshed them, just like US had no feeling of guilty at all when butched millions of vietnam civilians.

In the long run, we will help Cambodia to claim back the Mekong delta stolen by viets and take their red river delta ourselves, driving thoses viets to the remainning narrow strip to enjoy hurrican once a while.
of course we are smarter than you. it is statistical and scientific proven. :sarcastic:


http://www.unz.com/akarlin/genetics-iq-and-convergence/

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Under the current geopolitical situation, a closer relationships between the US and Vietnam will only bring China more good than harm because:
1) It will be harder for Vietnam to play the double dealing game to China, hence less investment into the much-needed infrastructure sector in Vietnam from China;
2) It will be easier for the Viet Tan Party alike Vietnamese in exile to wage a Vietnam Spring to get back the country. Don't forget in the US alone there are 1.8 million of this type of anti-government people;
3) It will alarm and annoy the Russian too and may result in less advanced weapons sales;
4) it will accelerate the Chinese military build up which is the wish of the most Chinese people.
 
who cares? the stuff that russia is selling to them are much more powerful than what uncle sam willing to sell. it's not gonna change anything :D

Exactly.

Under the current geopolitical situation, a closer relationships between the US and Vietnam will only bring China more good than harm because:
1) It will be harder for Vietnam to play the double dealing game to China, hence less investment into the much-needed infrastructure sector in Vietnam from China;
2) It will be easier for the Viet Tan Party alike Vietnamese in exile to wage a Vietnam Spring to get back the country. Don't forget in the US alone there are 1.8 million of this type of anti-government people;
3) It will alarm and annoy the Russian too and may result in less advanced weapons sales;
4) it will accelerate the Chinese military build up which is the wish of the most Chinese people.

I'm surprised Chinese government doesn't know the double dealing of Vietnam government. Maybe they are still into the "we are communist brothers" bullshit
 
of course we are smarter than you. it is statistical and scientific proven. :sarcastic:


http://www.unz.com/akarlin/genetics-iq-and-convergence/

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The smartness has nothing to do with IQ. It is exact your vietnam-style IQ make you people the champion of the suffering in the world. You got bombed into stone age twice even the world war two had ended 20 years thereafter. In this respect, siams is 100 times smarter than you.

We are fully aware of how much hatred you carry upon us, and we have the same intense feeling, if not any more, toward you too. Fortunately, we have enough resources to unleash our fury onto you, which will make sure you continue to lead a miserable life in the next 100 years, while all you can do is to take the suffering and throw yourself like a whore to anyone whom you delusion could save you, even to the US monster which just slaughtered millions of viets like playing video games not too long ago.

If your allied mighty USSR didn't save you in the past, how could the viets-butcher US could save you in future? your wild high IQ dream only make you continue to be a laugh stock.
 
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