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Statistics in China being falsified to mask slowdown

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...ng-falsified-mask-slowdown.html#ixzz1ycVblFP1

HONG KONG: As the Chinese economy continues to sputter, prominent corporate executives in China and Western economists say there is evidence that local and provincial officials are falsifying economic statistics to disguise the true depth of the troubles.

Record-setting mountains of excess coal have accumulated at the country's biggest storage areas because power plants are burning less coal in the face of tumbling electricity demand. But local and provincial government officials have forced plant managers not to report to Beijing the full extent of the slowdown, power sector executives said.

Electricity production and consumption are considered a telltale sign of a wide variety of economic activity, and thus are widely viewed by foreign investors and even some Chinese officials as the gold standard for measuring what is really happening in the country's economy, because the gathering and reporting of data in China isn't considered as reliable as it is in many countries. Indeed, officials in some cities and provinces are also overstating economic output, corporate revenue, corporate profits and tax receipts, the corporate executives and economists said. The officials do so by urging businesses to keep separate sets of books, showing improving business results and tax payments that do not exist.

The executives and economists roughly estimated that the effect of the inaccurate statistics was to falsely inflate a variety of economic indicators by 1 or 2 percentage points. That may be enough to make very bad economic news look merely bad.

The executives and economists requested anonymity for fear of jeopardizing their relationship with the Chinese authorities, on whom they depend for data and business deals. The National Bureau of Statistics, the government agency in Beijing that compiles most of the country's economic statistics, denied that economic data had been overstated.

"This is not rooted in evidence," an agency spokeswoman said. Some still express confidence in the official statistics. Mark Mobius, executive chairman of Templeton Emerging Markets Group, cited the reported electricity figures when he expressed skepticism that the Chinese economy had real difficulties. "I don't think the economic activity is that bad - just look at the electricity production," he said.

But an economist with ties to the agency said officials had begun making inquiries about the authenticity of some data after detecting signs that electricity numbers may have been overstated.

Questions about the quality and accuracy of Chinese economic data are longstanding, but the concerns now being raised are unusual. This year is the first time since 1989 that a sharp economic slowdown has coincided with the once-a-decade changeover in the country's top leadership.

Officials at all levels of government, from provincial party secretaries down to county administrators, are under enormous pressure to report good economic results to Beijing as they wait for promotions, demotions and transfers to cascade down from Beijing. That has meant that narrower and seemingly more obscure measures of economic activity are being falsified, according to the executives and economists.

"The government officials don't want to see the negative," so they tell power managers to report usage declines as zero change, said a chief executive of a power sector company.

A top corporate executive in China with access to electricity grid data from two provinces in east-central China that are centers of heavy industry, Shandong and Jiangsu, said electricity consumption in both provinces had dropped more than 10 percent in May from a year earlier. Another executive said that electricity consumption had also fallen in parts of western China. At the same time, the economist with ties to the statistical agency said cities and provinces across the country had reported flat or only slightly rising electricity consumption.

Rohan Kendall, the senior analyst for Asian coal at Wood Mackenzie, the global energy consulting firm, said that coal stockpiled at Qinhuangdao port had reached 9.5 million tons this month, as coal arrives on trains faster than it is needed by power plants in southern China. That surpasses the previous record of 9.3 million tons, set in November 2008, near the bottom of the global financial downturn.

The next three largest coal storage areas in China - in Tianjin, Caofeidian and Lianyungang - are also at record levels, a Chinese executive said.

Statistics in China being falsified to mask slowdown - The Economic Times
Chinese Officials Falsify Data to Mask Slowdown, NYT Says - Bloomberg
 
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To defame china, they do by all kinds of means, now they use the "fake" statistics tactics, and prove that China had "collapsed"!!
Shame on China
Yes, shame on china!!
But, almost half of all indians live under the poverty, almost more than ten millions of children lack of nutrition 60 years after independence, So who should the shame be put on? Government, Yes!! But, as a democratic country, who elect them? Yes, you indian, Maybe you not, but at least more than half of indian do these, It is hard to believe, why? Because of you indian are fool, or you lack of talent, If you indian can make talent, in china there are many!!
China government give the more real benefit to our people, maybe they falsify data. Indian tell their "people" "real" data, but can't give their people real benefit, just give the "fake" and future promise to their voter!! Good, In fact, indian and india government both deserve shame!!
 
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Oh somebody decide to give china a lesson in economics ???
Oh no is China too slowing down ??? I think it's only India :D
 
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people may cancel subscriptions or simply choose to ignore but the writing is on the wall... that most Chinese (CPC) is a totally shameless bunch of ruthless cons.. their entire economy is based on false data and god knows what crap is going down that sh!t hole called CPC..
 
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After more than a decade, The New York Times is still trying to recover its endorsements of Iraqi nuclear capabilities and the Iraq War.

BTW I canceled my online subscription due to its constant bashing of China in recent years.

NYT is owned by a bunch of Jews who dislike China's foreign policies on Iran and Syria!
 
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people may cancel subscriptions or simply choose to ignore but the writing is on the wall... that most Chinese (CPC) is a totally shameless bunch of ruthless cons.. their entire economy is based on false data and god knows what crap is going down that sh!t hole called CPC..

better tell me the whole fake indian democracy is going down the drains through its massive rebellions against the gravely incapable government, cheerleading populace, sliding rupees, rise of loan defaults, collapsing airline industry and more economic downgrading is forthcoming!

Very easy. Take a good look at currency chart for the past 1 year and see who drop the biggest percentage and you will know who fabricate news and who stood against the test of times.

and 2 agencies from their delusional alliy are downgrading them almost next to "junk" category! We dont have the same special treatment!
 
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Very easy. Take a good look at currency chart for the past 1 year and see who drop the biggest percentage and you will know who fabricate news and who stood against the test of times.

Pegged currencies don't re-adjust as per market moves.

Well, Thank God we liberated the currency way back.. and meanwhile:

Forex reserves up over USD 2 bn at USD 289.4 bn | Business Standard

RBI has a policy of not taking a view on exchange rates .... but only reduce volatility. Good Job, by RBI.

Free Markets Jindabad.
 
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To defame china, they do by all kinds of means, now they use the "fake" statistics tactics, and prove that China had "collapsed"!!

Yes, shame on china!!
But, almost half of all indians live under the poverty, almost more than ten millions of children lack of nutrition 60 years after independence, So who should the shame be put on? Government, Yes!! But, as a democratic country, who elect them? Yes, you indian, Maybe you not, but at least more than half of indian do these, It is hard to believe, why? Because of you indian are fool, or you lack of talent, If you indian can make talent, in china there are many!!
China government give the more real benefit to our people, maybe they falsify data. Indian tell their "people" "real" data, but can't give their people real benefit, just give the "fake" and future promise to their voter!! Good, In fact, indian and india government both deserve shame!!

I think you are mistaken, there is no real democracy in the West. The Western system of democracy is only democratic in name, not in practice. Politicians in a liberal democracy in order to get elected must:

1. Have fairy god mothers or god fathers to finance their election campaign, which is not cheap. He who pays the piper calls the tune. Ring a bell?

2. He must be able to tell lies with a straight face. The bigger the lies the better. Just look at all the grand elections promises made before an elections, in those "democratic countries", that cannot be fulfilled.
 
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