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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/08/w...ment-blacklists-militant-haqqani-network.html

VLADIVOSTOK, Russia — In a report to Congress on Friday, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton formally designated the militant Haqqani network — responsible for some of the deadliest attacks against American troops in Afghanistan — as a terrorist organization, two days before a Congressional deadline.

Mrs. Clinton signed the order in Brunei before departing to Vladivostok for the annual Asia Pacific Economic Conference, and State Department officials began notifying senior lawmakers. She issued the report after a last round of internal debate that took place in Washington on Thursday hours before President Obama spoke at the Democratic National Convention.

Mrs. Clinton and others have already discussed the issue with their counterparts in Pakistan, and the administration’s special envoy, Marc Grossman, is expected to formally inform Pakistan’s leaders on Friday.

The decision is the culmination of nearly two years of spirited debate inside the administration that reached a peak in the past month under the pressure of Sunday’s reporting deadline.

Several State Department and military officials had argued that designating the organization would help strangle the group’s fund-raising activities in countries like Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates and pressure Pakistan to open a long-expected military offensive against the militants.

Many other senior officials, including several in the White House, expressed deep reservations that blacklisting the group could further damage badly frayed relations with Pakistan, undercut peace talks with the Taliban and possibly jeopardize the fate of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the only American soldier known to be held by the militants.

But in the past few days, supporters of designating the group apparently eased most concerns or put forward contingencies to mitigate the risks and potential consequences.

“This shows that we are using everything we can to put the squeeze on these guys,” said one administration official who was involved in the process, and who spoke on the condition of anonymity on Thursday because the decision had not yet been formally announced.

Another senior administration official said the designation “is a very strong signal of our resolve to combat the Haqqanis.”

Critics had contended that a designation by the Treasury Department or the United Nations could achieve largely the same result as adding the network to the much more prominent State Department list, with far fewer consequences.

But many senior counterterrorism officials as well as top American military officers, including Gen. John R. Allen, commander of American and NATO troops in Afghanistan, had said designating the organization should be a top priority.

“F.T.O. designation could reduce a critical capability of the Haqqani network by increasing the cost of doing business, reducing access to capital, and constraining the network’s financial resources, thereby limiting their freedom to operate in a local, regional, and international context,” Jeffrey Dressler, senior Afghanistan analyst for the Institute for the Study of War, a research organization here, said in a paper issued this week, referring to foreign terrorist organizations.

Mr. Dressler said the Haqqani network’s business interests stretched from Afghanistan and Pakistan, to the Persian Gulf, and included car dealerships, money exchanges and construction companies, import-export operations and smuggling networks.

Since 2008, Haqqani suicide attackers have struck the American Embassy and Indian Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, as well as the headquarters of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force and hotels and restaurants there.

American officials confirmed last week that a senior member of the Haqqani family leadership, Badruddin Haqqani, the network’s operational commander, was killed recently in a drone strike in Pakistan’s tribal areas.

Pressure in Congress to add the group to the terrorist list had grown this year. “The Haqqani network is engaged in a reign of terror,” Representative Mike Rogers, a Michigan Republican who is chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said in July. “Now is the time for action, not simply paperwork and talk.”

With virtually unanimous backing, Congress approved legislation that President Obama signed into law on Aug. 10 giving Mrs. Clinton 30 days to determine whether the Haqqani network was a terrorist group, and report her decision to lawmakers by Sunday, coincidentally three days after the end of the Democratic National Convention.

Critics of designating the group a terrorist organization say the action could drive a wedge between the United States and Pakistan, just as the countries are gingerly recovering from months of grueling negotiations to reopen NATO supply routes. Pakistan closed the routes through its territory after an allied airstrike near the Afghan border last November killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.

These same critics say such a move would appear to bring Pakistan a step closer to being designated as a state sponsor of terrorism. American officials say Pakistan’s main spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate, is secretly aiding the insurgents. Pakistani officials have said the agency maintains regular contact with the Haqqanis, but deny that it provides operational support.

Two Pakistani officials said last week that the decision was “an internal American issue.” American analysts believe that Pakistan would be reluctant to publicly protest the designation, because to do so would substantiate American beliefs that Pakistan supports the Haqqanis.

Steven Lee Myers reported from Vladivostok, Russia, and Eric Schmitt from Washington.
 
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EVEN BBC CONFIRMS THIS..I THINk ITS been decided, no more backing or cancellation will be made by US.
We will expect more troops suffering.. due to this decision.
Another important thing present on the main site is the map of pakistan(small map)..or i would say new map of pakistan :D with whole north being made as grey area i.e part of India
see
Top Pakistan policeman shot dead
 
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Another pakistani terror organization banned :tup:

I'd still say that it was kinda slow by the US standards. Usually they don't blink twice before declaring some country or regime as a terrorist establishment.. wonder why they were working in slow motion when it came to Pak military's darlings. :what:
 
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What is means for Pakistan is the main question...?
 
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I can't believe they are just doing this.
 
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I can't believe they are just doing this.

Now that Haqqani network is labelled as a FTO, is Pakistan liable to be labelled as state harboring terrorists and all the corresponding tamasha ?
 
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Oh boy, this'll be good. :lol:

A few points to make. Hopefully some commentator out there would have the intellectual capacity and more than just a pea-sized emotional brain to be able to answer and address them (unlike some people, including on this very forum).

First and foremost, the Americans specifically (less so the other NATO allies) have been yapping about this so-called Haqqani "network" for the past 4 years or so. Why are they declaring this tribe (yes, it's a tribe) a terrorist organization now? Curiously, members of this tribe (including Jalal ud din Haqqani, whose father once sat in the Oval Office during a casual and friendly meeting with Ronald Reagan) have already been sanctioned/censured as terrorists. Labeling the whole tribe as a terrorist "organization" is a fool-hardy practice; one that won't yield any results as far as the Afghan war 'theatre' is concerned.

Secondly, Pakistan's spineless (unpatriotic) administration in Islamabad has been tacitly allowing US Predator drones to attack targets in North Waziristan. Despite the fact that we allow these drones and despite the fact that civilians are killed, we are still labelled by some of these preposterous senators and congressmen/women (some of whom are on the payroll of the indian and israeli lobbies incidentally) as "duplicitous allies"......this all while NATO pays ZERO heed to Pakistan's legitimate concerns regarding Afghanistan soil being used for hostile purposes against the Pakistani STATE. Respect and trust are a two way thing, not one way thing. Call us allies or call us enemies -- choose your side. Alienating or antagonizing Pakistan when they need our help to work towards Afghan reconciliation is a disastrous policy which will go against their strategic interests. We see eye to eye on defeating enemy al qaeda, but on the Afghan drawdown plan they are, unfortunately, not seeming to keep Pakistan's grievences or concerns at heart. This forces us to take measures of our own, some of which they may or may not like.

Lastly, the Haqqani "group" (as some foolishly call it) has presence on both sides of the Afghan-Pakistan border. They are an indigenous phenomenon. They've been there for over 400 years! They are sons of these soils. NATO are the ones who invaded. They are perceived as occupiers. As long as NATO boots are in Afghanistan, anti-American and anti-NATO sentiment will exist. Those whose families are killed in targeted extra judicial attacks become radicalized - especially the youth. If an Afghan terrorist bombed American neighbourhoods, latter would probably take up arms too if 'GOTUS' was unable to address the problem.

There are SEVERAL factions affiliated directly or indirectly with the Afghan taleban. The Pakistani "taleban" only came into being in the mid 2000s; I have many stories to share regarding western weapons and communication equipment we've found on dead terrorists (all of whom crossed over from NATO-administered Afghanistan). What the TTP does and what the Afghan taleban does are totally different. The ISI has intercepted signals from Afghanistan in which certain intelligence agencies (which i need not name) provided instruction of which targets to attack in Pakistan. They speak in code of course, but the ISI has informants inside of these terror groups providing HUMINT on the movements and hideouts of said militants. When we confront NATO about it, they do nothing except remain deaf, dumb and mute.

So as long as Afghanistan is used for anti-Pakistan activity -- cooperation from our side will be limited at BEST. Suffice to say, these are all just mind games being played on the American public and the world. The U.S. even TODAY is still in direct contact with the Haqqani tribal elders. They know how to reach them, they know even where they are. This is simply a pressure tactic of sorts and I personally don't see it as having much fruitful results. The fact that the Americans have contact with these people means that by the same logic - America is "duplicitous". We will do what is in our interests.


i do not understand why Pakistan's request about fencing the border and of using strict protocols in dealing with frequent travelers across the border is met with absolute indifference and deliberate roadblocks. (personally, I could care less about afghan grievances)

If USA can invade Afghanistan to defeat terrorism, why cannot the border be fenced and sealed in order to defeat terrorism?

If USA is not supporting these ideas due to Afghan political backlash then do forgive Pakistan for doing the same in not blindly following USA and jumping into perhaps the most anti USA region of entire belt of Eastern/Southern Afghanistan + Pakistan's FATA...all in the name of USA.

A politically sound maneuver is required instead of brute force in order to isolate the terrorists, so far i have been disappointed in this... but then again after 9/11 there have been many actions which went on to make the situation more chaotic and beyond repair..Rather than acting pragmatically and cooly, they acted like a wounded bear. A wounded bear can be destructive to others as well as to self.
 
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What is means for Pakistan is the main question...?


i personally dont see any major paradigm shift of any sort.....in fact, the head of the Haqqani TRIBE is on record stating that neither he nor his people receive support or largesse of ANY kind from the Pakistani State.

in fact most of their revenues come from businesses -- both legitimate and illegtimate in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border areas (primarily in Afghanistan) as well as crucial funds originating from Persian Gulf countries like Saudi Arabia and the UAE

No. This will likely be all bad.

care to respond to the 99.987% remainder of the post which you seem to have zipped by?
 
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Perhaps Haqqanis must be the only terrorist group in the world to have had The Whitehouse hospitality:lol:
 
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ahhh well....what can ya do


Well, all I could grasp was that you tried to prove that the Haqqani Netwrok is not a terrorist organization, but noble fighters protecting their native land. It appears to be a bit late to be taking that stance now after the US declaration, but what to do about this designation and its potential fallout would be more important.
 
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