SriLanka becomes 1st country to give written support to Prime Minister

[Biplab Bijay]

Keep your experience to yourself ..

And why so ?

Ofc Muslims believe in Sharia law. Razia Sultan is a Hindu pretending to be a Muslim. Like I said Constitution and Sharia are like North and South pole. You can't choose both.

Oh its believe. Ok. hmmmmmmmm

 

[Ragnar]

Wow! this is a revelation. We should withdraw Bharat Ratna from Ambedkar... I have heard people telling that actually Dr. Rajendra Prasad was responsible for our constitution being the chairman of the Constituent Assembly and that Ambedkar was barely the chairman of the drafting committee. And now I hear that B N Rau was the father of Indian Constitution......................... If i get to read a few more like you on this forum which i signed in barely 10 days ago, i will go MAD.
I assume that you have zero knowledge of political science and public administration. For your understanding i will just draw parallels of constituent assembly with govt. of india for your understanding.
1. Chairman of drafting committee was like Prime Minister of India
2. Drafting Committee Members were like cabinet ministers
3. Constituent Assembly members were like MPs
4. Chairman of constituent assembly was like the Speaker of Lok Sabha or like President of India.
5. All other affilliates like B N Rau were like bureaucrats, typists, secretaries etc.

Hope you are clear now. The nation has not been calling him the Father of the Constitution by mistake. Every letter, word, comma and full stop of Indian Constitution were the responsibility of one man by the name Dr. B R Ambedkar.

No need to get hysterical on me. Congress needed a Dalit face at the time. Ambedkar was a good rabble rouser, but his contribution to the Constitution was NIL

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Every community feels superior than others. Brits and french, english and scottish, catholics and protestants, shias and sunnis, hindus and muslims, north indians and south indians and innumerable groups and communities have jokes and sarcasm against each others. that does not mean they hate each other. Specially we indians know how to live with diversity. I am living in mumbai. I am often grouped as a woman, as a north indian, as a bhaiya from UP, as a muslim, as a sunni, as a non-vegetarian etc etc but when i am grouped as a woman i have with me women of all communites, religions, regions; when i am grouped as a north indian or a UPite i get united with men and women of all communites from north india; when i am grouped as a muslim or sunni muslim, i get united with men and women of the community from all over india or for that matter even the world over...... what i mean to say there are many links like a matrix that separates us and unite us as well. I have something common with north indians like language, culture, and food etc. that unites me more with a hindu from north india than a muslim from south india but when i have my religion, i feel the muslims from kerala, hyderabad, UP or Mumbai are all same and this very thing unites us with muslims of Arab, Pakistan and anywhere in the world... I am sure in the same way hindus or sikhs living in Pakistan would be relating themselves with Indian hindus and sikhs. So everybody in the world has something to be connected with each other... this is what referred as "Vasudhaiv Kutumbakam". Similarly when it comes to India, I automatically get united with people of India from Kashmir to kanyakumari and from arunachal to gujarat regardless of which region, religion they belong to.

Its very unfortunate that many people feel that indian muslims should not identify or relate with pakistani muslims and if they relate, they are anti national. I can only pity their mindset. Look at Sania Mirza who proudly carries the indian flag despite marrying a pakistani and proudly calls herself an Indian and not just indian but a patriotic indian. There are many marriages between indians and pakistanis. Actress Ayesha Dharkar's mother is a pakistani muslim married to an indian hindu. And if Ayesha or her father feel that India-Pak should be friends, will you term them as anti national. Let me tell you that if Hindus feel for hindus all over the world, sikhs feel for sikhs from Nankana Sahib, Paksitan and elsewhere then there is nothing wrong if a shia has a soft corner for Iran and shias else where and muslims have a feeling of brotherhood for their Ummah. Indian nationalism is not restricted to a community but it belongs to all. Remember a school boy of mongoloid race from Manipur wanting to be the PM of India when he grows up... and trying to take tips from Modi. I am sure you did not get a chance to interact with North Eastern people else you will categorize them also as anti hindu or anti india or anti south asian race. Please dont fall prey to political gimmicks of some petty political groups and dont let them destroy the essence of our nationhood. Please dont forget that those muslims who did not want to live with other indians, migrated to pakistan. Those hindus and sikhs who did not want to live in India migrated to canada and other western countries. And there will be people who may be hating India for various reasons like being dirty, poor, lack of infrastructure and other basic facilities and lack of opportunities or religious intolerance but unable to move out of india... that does not mean as a nation we should kill them or declare them anti national. They have a right to their feelings and right to express themselves. Thats where we feel proud of our diversity, democracy and tolerance.

The problem is I can not relate myself with Hindus of Pakistan. Look I am not justifying anything. But the problem here is selective secularism. Let me give you an example.

No muslim leader has raised the issue of kashmiri Hindus till now. But I can show you muslim leaders who supports kashmiri muslim. This was ok also. But this feeling started changing after we saw muslim crowds vandalizing properties in mumbai to show support of Rohigyan muslims. You will never see any violent protest by other communities to show support for Pakistani hindus. Showing support to Palestine is fine. Protesting also is fine. But we want to see an equal protest by these muslims to support non-muslims who were persecuted in different muslim countries. Those protest are not see. As an Indian I would like to say either we support all persecuted communities or only support Indians.

These selective supports creates a bitterness in peoples mind.

 

[zip]

And why so ?


Oh its believe. Ok. hmmmmmmmm

You will understand it when you lead a team with people from different background ..difference in opinion , bad apples will always be there and generalising differences spoiling whole team should be discouraged ..There are ways to sort out differences and if its not possible then you need none to realise it ..

 

[Razia Sultana]

Ofc Muslims believe in Sharia law. Razia Sultan is a Hindu pretending to be a Muslim. Like I said Constitution and Sharia are like North and South pole. You can't choose both.

When I take up the cause of my fellow muslims, I get branded as pakistani by fanatic hindus.
When I stand by my nation, I get branded as hindu or anti-muslim by fanatic muslims.
Thing is I dont care for fanatics and I dont need any certificate from them.
If you call yourself Mujahid, first fight the vices within you. Counter my opinion with graceful words. Disrespectful words against a woman is unislamic.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

You will understand it when you lead a team with people from different background ..difference in opinion , bad apples will always be there and generalizing differences spoiling whole team should be discouraged ..There are ways to sort out differences and if its not possible then you need none to realize it ..

Listen . Lets think it this way. I am not a bengali. But I am staying in west bengal. I have experienced many things here, good, bad etc. When it is good, I share it with my family. For example I usually say " Bengali's are intelligent people." But when it is bad I also share it. For example the four lane road construction case. Here you will find that N.H. is not four lane. Its a 2 way road. Also the road conditions are pathetic. The reason being people here take very huge unnecessary time to decide whether to do or not to do. These are experiences. So what is wrong in that.

 

[The Unnamed]

When I take up the cause of my fellow muslims, I get branded as pakistani by fanatic hindus.
When I stand by my nation, I get branded as hindu or anti-muslim by fanatic muslims.
Thing is I dont care for fanatics and I dont need any certificate from them.
If you call yourself Mujahid, first fight the vices within you. Counter my opinion with graceful words. Disrespectful words against a woman is unislamic.

you take too much tension about things which you should not take tension about.

unless you too intend to troll like our mujahid broda heaa.

no offence. take it easy. this is the internet.

 

[mujhaidind]

If you call yourself Mujahid, first fight the vices within you. Counter my opinion with graceful words. Disrespectful words against a woman is unislamic.

FYI I don't know whether you are a lady or a Muslim. You sound like a Hindu who wants Muslims to live in a particular manner.

You never give a straight answer. Let me dumb it down for you. If there is a conflict of interest, what will you choose Islam/Ummah or India? What if Indian government decides to implement an Uniform Civil Code which most of Indian Constitution makers wanted? Which side will you support?

Israel is a dependable ally of India but an enemy of Muslims? So in this case will you India's interest over Islam's.

Now answer the simple question! Whats more important to you Islam or India? Don't give me that BS that both are equally important to you. Cause it's not possible as I have explained.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

FYI I don't know whether you are a lady or a Muslim. You sound like a Hindu who wants Muslims to live in a particular manner.

You never give a straight answer. Let me dumb it down for you. If there is a conflict of interest, what will you choose Islam/Ummah or India? What if Indian government decides to implement an Uniform Civil Code which most of Indian Constitution makers wanted? Which side will you support?

Israel is a dependable ally of India but an enemy of Muslims? So in this case will you India's interest over Islam's.

Now answer the simple question! Whats more important to you Islam or India? Don't give me that BS that both are equally important to you. Cause it's not possible as I have explained.

That is exactly what I wanted to know also.

 

[Tridibans]

Ofc Muslims believe in Sharia law. Razia Sultan is a Hindu pretending to be a Muslim. Like I said Constitution and Sharia are like North and South pole. You can't choose both.

I have consistently seen you trolling without even an iota of logic. Rather than calling her a fake Indian Muslim, I think you yourself is a fake false flag troll. You have harmed there image of Muslims on this site more than the hardcore Pakistani posters.

As far as your post is concerned, no genius, Islam and Indian constitution are not poles apart.

1) You are a practising muslim right, also you call yourself an India./ You know why? ..... Indian constitution
2) ,Many times you have said bad things about RSS/BJP etc. without being beheaded or arrested (like in many Islamic countries). You know why?.... yes... Indian Constitution.
3) Lastly, Muslims of India are far better than anywhere else. Because Indian muslims are not labelled as TERRORISTS in foreign lands. Obviously this has to do with the peaceful nature in general of Indian muslims, thanks to .... again.... INDIAN CONSTITUTION which grants every citizen of this nation equal opportunities.

 

[zip]

Listen . Lets think it this way. I am not a bengali. But I am staying in west bengal. I have experienced many things here, good, bad etc. When it is good, I share it with my family. For example I usually say " Bengali's are intelligent people." But when it is bad I also share it. For example the four lane road construction case. Here you will find that N.H. is not four lane. Its a 2 way road. Also the road conditions are pathetic. The reason being people here take very huge unnecessary time to decide whether to do or not to do. These are experiences. So what is wrong in that.

If your expression leads to a good result then I will encourage it ..if not though your intention may be good I stii discourage it within my limitation ..Whats wrong with that ?

 

[Biplab Bijay]

If your expression leads to a good result then I will encourage it ..if not though your intention may be good I stii discourage it within my limitation ..Whats wrong with that ?

Its not expression. Its experience. And it has not happened once or twice. It has happened over a period of long time. And these experience comes from general public.

 

[mujhaidind]

That is exactly what I wanted to know also.

Well most of Muslims will agree with me. Razia might be fake a/c of some BJP guy.

@Tridibans Don't expect Muslims to put country before religion. That's not going to happen. Razia shouldn't try that BS with us.

 

[StormShadow]

@mujhaidind , I dont agree with you 99.99% of the times. But i appreciate your stand. You dont disguise in the grab of a secular and voice your opinion frankly. When I was young I didnot know muslims see everything through the tinted glass of islam. But as I grew up, I realised that they prefer allah over nation. Reluctance to sing vande mataram reaffirms my point. Thanks for reminding me that. I believe most of the muslims in India are like you.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Well most of Muslims will agree with me. Razia might be fake a/c of some BJP guy.

@Tridibans Don't expect Muslims to put country before religion. That's not going to happen. Razia shouldn't try that BS with us.

That is what I know too.