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Raza Habib Raja

Sixteenth December arouses radically different sentiments in two different and yet related countries of the world. In one, it is cherished and celebrated and in the other it is just “ignored” and of course deliberately.

But then the significance of this day differs so much for each of the aforementioned countries of the world. For one it is the day of victory (though their official Independence Day is March 26, 16th December is celebrated as the Victory Day) and for other, it is the day of a humiliating defeat which they will like to forget. It is the day when the cherished army made up of so called martial race belonging to the latter was overwhelmed within one month.

It is a day which ideally should never be forgotten by latter country Pakistan but given its tendency to conveniently ignore the inconvenient truth, it is perhaps expected. While our history text books scream about 1965 war with India, they hardly say a word about 1971’s humiliating defeat and more importantly as to what had actually led to the fateful year.

All our history, the one which is taught, is silent about what was happening in East Pakistan during 1950s and 1960s. Our history just talks about West Pakistan and in doing so merely reflects what exactly was happening TO East Pakistan: It was being ignored completely. And when we finally turned attention, it was not redress their grievances but undertake an army operation which can be easily called a massacre as well. And of course the official history does not talk about it and even if you go through the popular “unofficial” version you will find that most of the blame would be placed on Mukti Bahni and Indian conspiracies to break Pakistan.

It is only if you start reading some books by the foreign authors or some of the more objective Pakistani writers that a different narrative starts to emerge. And needless to say that even if you read credible writers and objective accounts that narrative is radically different from the official Pakistani version.

Pakistanis had mistreated Bengalis and that mistreatment progressively became worse as the time went by. It started with the denial of freedom to Bengalis to choose a national language and then started to seep into economic domain. Bengalis particularly felt left out in the matters of governance and decision making. And it was this feeling of deprivation which ultimately manifested into secession based movement.

It should have been remembered that humans generally do not have a single identity but rather multiple identities. Which identity actually would actually be at the forefront at a particular time would depend on a host of complicated factors and perception of discrimination, whether real or nor, is one of the most potent ones. Ethnicity, defined on the lines of language and cultural homogeneity within a group has always been a very strong identity. If an ethnicity feels that it is being discriminated due to its ethnicity, then that becomes the foremost identity and also the rallying point.

And then there is the concept of ethnic nationalism. Nationalism is not merely preservation of identity; it is very much intertwined with the concept of state. If state is perceived as unjust then nationalists will try to create their own state and thus would try to secede. Ernest Gellener actually defines nationalism in the context of injustice. The deprived and excluded if belonging to some common ethnicity will revolt and will form nationalist expression built around that ethnicity and may end up striving for a state of its own.

Let’s not forget that Bengalis were at the forefront of the Pakistan movement. To declare that they did not want Pakistan would be completely incorrect. However, while opting for Pakistan, their cultural as well ethnic identity though for the time being relegated did not simply vanish. And it came out dormancy when State began its exclusion based on that identity.

And we had more than two decades to redress the grievances by giving them a share in the governance and to ensure their greater participation in the national decisions which invariably affected them, but bent on centralization, we did not. We created one unit system, which according to many independent observers, was a twin pronged strategy to negate their population advantage and also to negate the ethnic diversity with in Western Pakistan.

And then when Awami League won the elections, we refused to give them their share of power and later on went on to conduct a military operation which resulted in wide scale loss of human lives.

It is our fear of plurality, particularly the perception that autonomy on ethnic lines would break up Pakistan that made us do all that back then and which continues to make us do similar things to provinces like Baluchistan.

So we have not learnt the critical lesson. We continue to believe that autonomy will break up Pakistan completely overlooking the key historical evidence: lack of autonomy will actually break Pakistan. And even if inhabitants of Baluchistan are not able to actually secede due to lack of military means, in their hearts they will hate Pakistan with increasing intensity.

As pointed out quite eloquently by Mr. Stephen Cohen in his book “The Idea of Pakistan” that Pakistani leaders have not fully grasped that in an ethnically diverse state most politics is of identity and closely linked to issues of pride, status, jobs and social equality. They seem convinced that ethno-linguistic demands are an economic problem, not a political, problem, and if other means fail, a military problem

Civil wars evoke a lot of emotions and subsequently the historical accounts reflect those emotional biases. Exactly how many died during the war of 1971 will always be a matter of dispute and both sides will claim radically different numbers. It is hardly surprising that estimates range from less than ten thousand to over a million.

How many were killed will remain a matter of dispute but even if no one was killed, the point is that we did an injustice by not giving Bengalis their due share and denied them their rights.

Nations move on only by embracing their past blunders and acknowledging their grave mistakes. Only through acknowledgement do we set our future direction right. A very important step towards this embracement and acknowledgement is to apologize to those who have faced the brunt of those mistakes. Yes, sorry is difficult but nevertheless an important step towards making peace with a very bitter part of our history. Sorry requires a lowering of ego but our misplaced ego has always been our worst enemy.

Yes sorry wont compensate whatever has been done and there is a possibility that many Bengalis won’t even accept it for not being enough. But then to say sorry is our duty and to forgive is their choice. And when it is a matter of duty, it has to be done irrespective of whether the counter party exercises its choice or not.

The real sorry has to come from Pakistan’s government..but I will nevertheless say it..

We are Sorry Bangladesh…

Sorry Bangladesh
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I am not sure how many would like to say it, but I sure do, it was awful... no words really can express the pain of those who suffered.

but then again you won your freedom, Today you are truly Independent and at your own.

I wish Bangladesh success and prosperity. God bless Bangladesh !

Happy Independence !!
 
bengalis also brutally killed so many urdu speakers, y bengalis dont apologise them??

muktis were traitor animals, they deserved tht
 
It should have been remembered that humans generally do not have a single identity but rather multiple identities. Which identity actually would actually be at the forefront at a particular time would depend on a host of complicated factors and perception of discrimination, whether real or nor, is one of the most potent ones. Ethnicity, defined on the lines of language and cultural homogeneity within a group has always been a very strong identity. If an ethnicity feels that it is being discriminated due to its ethnicity, then that becomes the foremost identity and also the rallying point. And then there is the concept of ethnic nationalism.

Nicely put and very accurate...
 
bengalis also brutally killed so many urdu speakers, y bengalis dont apologise them??

muktis were traitor animals, they deserved tht


This type of attitude was responsible for it.

I think Bengali people gives most importance to self respect and when that was denied it was waiting to happen.

You are wrong as Bengali people have only retaliated after months of massacre.

People of both sides have died but one have to make distinction one was the suppresser and other was the sufferer.
 
I am getting absolutely sick and tired of these threads on PDF. It's been discussed so many times already and quite frankly, we shouldnt even allow these threads anymore. More often than not they are just a flame-bait

they have their country and we have ours............move the f*ck on and stop dwelling over the past
 
bengalis also brutally killed so many urdu speakers, y bengalis dont apologise them??

muktis were traitor animals, they deserved tht

we didnt do a good enough job of eliminating all the muktis; but perhaps sooner or later the losses would have to be cut


i wonder when bengalis will apologize to their own Bihari population
 
It was a sort of nationalist cultural revolution back then
based on Ethnic Identity. Nothing else, no religion or the sense of
geographic paradigms. After all this years although that strength has
faded a bit but the core principle lies the same.

What one wants after all this years is to celebrate the victory day
leaving all the inconsistencies and unfulfilled desires of their hearts in oblivion.
The birth of this country based on ethnicity was just a matter of time
because of the strong will of people. Which is the reason why this country
Succeeded in maintaining its sovereignty and identity when the world thought
this country would have been a bottomless basket. Thank fully they were wrong.
In this sub-continent there is no other country which were formed purely
On the sole concept of ethnicity .

On the 40th Victory Day I salute all those souls who fought for us.
 
Nice attitude leader, keep it going anyways Happy Independence day to all bengladeshi brothers and sisters.
 
I am getting absolutely sick and tired of these threads on PDF. It's been discussed so many times already and quite frankly, we shouldnt even allow these threads anymore. More often than not they are just a flame-bait

they have their country and we have ours............move the f*ck on and stop dwelling over the past

a classic example of "Son, you cannot handle the Truth!!"

anyway read and then post or post somewhere else.
 
we didnt do a good enough job of eliminating all the muktis; but perhaps sooner or later the losses would have to be cut


i wonder when bengalis will apologize to their own Bihari population

Is there any neutral source of Bihari Killing ?? Yea i know about Sharmila bose and i have read a huge book written on Pakistani officers' statements. But it would be better to know from neutral sources such as european or american media.....

---------- Post added at 01:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:34 AM ----------

PS. i asked about this to my mother just now. She replied she knew about a Bangali whos Family was killed by Biharis and the man killed many in reply.....
 
O by the way , thanks Leader for your bold move.
 
like i said, we have plenty of threads on this already........use the search function instead of needlessly making new ones on the same thing, where the same things are discussed over and over again.


and dont try to turn the tables and say retarded things like "cant handle the truth".....in fact i've been the first one to admit the political f*ck ups of Z.A. Bhutto vis-a-vis bangalia.

we have more important and more pressing issues than to dwell over something we shouldnt even care about anymore.


i bet none of you kids were even around in 1971
 
It was a sort of nationalist cultural revolution back then
based on Ethnic Identity. Nothing else, no religion or the sense of
geographic paradigms. After all this years although that strength has
faded a bit but the core principle lies the same.

What one wants after all this years is to celebrate the victory day
leaving all the inconsistencies and unfulfilled desires of their hearts in oblivion.
The birth of this country based on ethnicity was just a matter of time
because of the strong will of people. Which is the reason why this country
Succeeded in maintaining its sovereignty and identity when the world thought
this country would have been a bottomless basket. Thank fully they were wrong.
In this sub-continent there is no other country which were formed purely
On the sole concept of ethnicity .

On the 40th Victory Day I salute all those souls who fought for us.

off topic: Bro, while reading your post suddenly jahir Rayhan appeared in my mind. Renowned Bangali writer who was killed in december after independnce. Some say Mukti killed him , some say bihari killed him. Anyway we have read a story written by him which he wrote during the war..... Its name was ' shomoyer proyojone ' .... There he wrote '' they were our brothers, we slept together, ate together. Now our eyes burn when we see them, we kill them, they kill us. But why!'' at the end he simply answered '' it is the demand of time'' .

one of my most favorite writers he is.
 
bengalis also brutally killed so many urdu speakers, y bengalis dont apologise them??

muktis were traitor animals, they deserved tht

82% of the Muslim vote in Bengal going to the Muslim league was responsible for the victories in the 37 elections.
In contrast.. UP Muslims were still sleeping .. many voted for congress.

Pakistan is there because of Bangalis... if not for them Pakistan would NEVER.. NEVER have been made.
And today .. they still hold more of the state vision of Pakistan than this west Pakistani side could ever hope to accomplish.

Shame on those who were in west Pakistan.. shame on them thrice and again for the way they treated their fellow countrymen.
 
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