solving shia sunni rift

[asker]

Their r so many sects in Pakistan bickering and arguing over petty issues but most of times disagreement remains at the level of arguments. But the shia sunni conflict is turning a bloody tide resulting in the death of thousands of innocent people. In this conflict the rule of the road is broken while among other sects disagreements are argued , here they take bloody turn. Their can b disagreements over certain issues in Islam but when 'Akabireen' and companions of prophet are presistently villified, condemned and abused by a particular sect conflicts are bound to rise and when weapons r avaliabe like vegetables in market deadly turns of conflict r invetable.
Govt can surely stop this conflict with determined effort. A powerful autonomous body of shia and sunni ulema should b formed with more ulema from minority sect, being the main victims. Body should b empowered to stop or prevent any ZAKIR or Sunni aalim from from abusing suhaba and it should prevent any one from majorty to spet venom aganist minority sect. It should b empowered to ban anyone from public speech's . finally the terrorist orgs like ttp and jundullah should also b involved in process bcoz vilification is thier main issue with minority . they should b asked to stop attacks against minority becoz they have many other issues to fight over and issue with minority(vilification) is over . this is politically viable as minorities own elders will b at the helm thus preventing alineation of minority community, strengthening national INTEGRITY and ending environment of death and despair in minority areas and communities like Hazaras . Then more joint seminars and invitations can bring warmth among communities reducing hate factor and preconceived notions of eath other.
YES IT COULD B DONE

 

[ZeusMK]

I am moved by your enthusiasm.
and i second your notion.

this however is a complicated myth which has not been solved for centuries...
basically every body have their own faith and believe.
it is vital that every one comply and unite to one point at least (Quran+Hadees) and every thing other than this point stimulate the fundamental the basis of factions, differences and hence firqas.

sigh.. however as i told these difference once made cannot be easily mutilated because now these differences ahave made different nations containing millions of people. as we know that in the end there would be 70 firqas..
'Only One Entering the True Paradise..

so i say for the sake of humanity. Let other firqas do whatever they please to do so, it is our responsibility to preach them the right message and then leave it to them. may ALLAH guide every one to the right path including myself if i am wrong.

peace is very important that our prophet p.b.u.h always indulged us in so we must always promote peace and let others live the way they please after we deliver the true message of Quran and Hadeed (authentic) to them.

 

[ZeusMK]

Sorry to say but most of the massacred are Shias only. Political gain, Sunni majority nation, foreign funded mosques are the result of shia killings and if you talk about sunnis dying in between then it is a collateral damage. Shias are targeted in purpose just like Qadyianis in Pakistan.

Brother our enemy at large is trying to divide us by adopting to such strategies. Nothing more.
Every true Muslim/Pakistani feels your pain.

 

[Danish saleem]

Brother,

There is no shia suni rift, shia sunni living peacefully, the external powers want to create the divide between two sect of Islam, like as Iraq and Egypt here in Pakistan too.

External powers using our own people against our state.

 

[ZeusMK]

I agree with you bro but tell me what our own government is doing. Do you want to say that everyone from governance to Army to Agencies are in payroll of enemies ?

brother if we had a "Government" would we be at this point right now.

Unfortunately we have members of the Monopolistic Cartel on cyclic Predetermined Periods of Contracts.

our beloved country is bleeding and the members of the monopolistic cartel sucking up the blood from it's stem like lice.

Only Army seems to be sincere to this point other wise i can't image what sorceries could we have been witnessing till date.

 

[Danish saleem]

brother if we had a "Government" would we be at this point right now.

Unfortunately we have members of the Monopolistic Cartel on cyclic Predetermined Periods of Contracts.

our beloved country is bleeding and the members of the monopolistic cartel sucking up the blood from it's stem like lice.

Only Army seems to be sincere to this point other wise i can't image what sorceries could we have been witnessing till date.

Brother,

Only democracy will bring Pakistan to prosperity and if Army able to control that, then we must remember this all started in Zia Era, and reached to its peak in Mushi Ere, remember both of them are from Army.

 

[ZeusMK]

Brother,

Only democracy will bring Pakistan to prosperity and if Army able to control that, then we must remember this all started in Zia Era, and reached to its peak in Mushi Ere, remember both of them are from Army.

and unfortunately we don't.

Democracy in Developed Countries = Free Will (Beneficial to Public)
Democracy in Pakistan = Monopolistic Cartel (Beneficial to the members of the Monopolistic Cartel)

 

[Danish saleem]

and unfortunately we don't.

Any just check the latest accident, that after 17 Months , Ranger's just put up the report about Baldia Town Accident.

The Questions are ?

1. Why they waited for 17 Months?
2. Any one stopped them , not to put the report in Media?
3. Why the report published on same day, when MQM announced rejoining of Sindh Government?

so some think is cooking.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Its hard to resolve the theological issues but Pakistan can at least try to keep peace by eliminating sectarian terrorists. Defense is best offense but ISI and Pakistan Army is more interested in Talibans in Afghanistan. Saudia Arabia and India are funding sectarian terrorists in Pakistan.

 

[Danish saleem]

Its hard to resolve the theological issues but Pakistan can at least try to keep peace by eliminating sectarian terrorists. Defense is best offense but ISI and Pakistan Army is more interested in Talibans in Afghanistan. Saudia Arabia and India are funding sectarian terrorists in Pakistan.

Brother,

U forgot the name of Iran, who is also funding the terrorist also!

 

[ZeusMK]

Democracy in Developed Countries = Free Will (Beneficial to Public)
Democracy in Pakistan = Monopolistic Cartel (Beneficial to the members of the Monopolistic Cartel)

Any just check the latest accident, that after 17 Months , Ranger's just put up the report about Baldia Town Accident.

The Questions are ?

1. Why they waited for 17 Months?
2. Any one stopped them , not to put the report in Media?
3. Why the report published on same day, when MQM announced rejoining of Sindh Government?

so some think is cooking.

Its hard to resolve the theological issues but Pakistan can at least try to keep peace by eliminating sectarian terrorists. Defense is best offense but ISI and Pakistan Army is more interested in Talibans in Afghanistan. Saudia Arabia and India are funding sectarian terrorists in Pakistan.

i understand your notion.
i understand it all.
The only thing i don't understand is that why is the Army is letting these Scoundrel and Mephistopheles Monopolistic Politicians on Contracts desecrate our beloved home land for their personal gains, interests and swis accounts.

if army doesn't intervene soon Pakistan is likely to suffer more i am afraid.
The hearts of the sincere people bleed on..

 

[Danish saleem]

i understand your notion.
i understand it all.
The only thing i don't understand is that why is the Army is letting these Scoundrel and Mephistopheles Monopolistic Politicians on Contracts desecrate our beloved home land for their personal gains, interests and swis accounts.

if army doesn't intervene soon Pakistan is likely to suffer more i am afraid.
The hearts of the sincere people bleed on..

Brother,

If Army intervene then that will be the end of Pakistan, because Baluchistan almost lost because of wrong policies of Mushi, and secondly our Enemies need our Army to came into the rule, and create divide between Army and people.

i think u forgot that just before 7 years, how people of Pakistan throw out Army General.

i understand your notion.
i understand it all.
The only thing i don't understand is that why is the Army is letting these Scoundrel and Mephistopheles Monopolistic Politicians on Contracts desecrate our beloved home land for their personal gains, interests and swis accounts.

if army doesn't intervene soon Pakistan is likely to suffer more i am afraid.
The hearts of the sincere people bleed on..

About the Democracy in Pakistan,

In 2007, people not voted for PML Q, so PML Q thrown out.
In 2013, People not voted for PPP, and PPP thrown out.
In 2017, if PML N not performed people also throw them out.

 

[ZeusMK]

Brother,

If Army intervene then that will be the end of Pakistan, because Baluchistan almost lost because of wrong policies of Mushi, and secondly our Enemies need our Army to came into the rule, and create divide between Army and people.

i think u forgot that just before 7 years, how people of Pakistan throw out Army General.

Good Point.
In that Case we need a "Government"
if not sincere to the people then at least neutral.

 

[Danish saleem]

Good Point.
In that Case we need a "Government"
if not sincere to the people then at least neutral.

that what u think, that their is no Government,
i dont agree with you, because democratic Governments are always so weak in Pakistan, that they dont even able to decide their forign Policy,

Recent Example, Russian President going to Visit Pakistan in Dec 2013, and suddenly dharna started in Islamabad, and now chineese President want to visit suddenly dharnas started !

Friendship with China is the biggest gift of Democratic Leader to Pakistan.
Now we are looking towards Russia also!
i am optimistic for Pakistan's Future.

Today on 19/02/2015, Pakistan forign Exchange reserves crossed again 16 Billion After 10 years.

 

[Gazi]

One simple idea. Declare all those Sunni Sectarian outfits IS Elements and all those Shia Sectarian Elements Iranian Agents. This would create enough Backlash among people to actually support their Eradication and would Provide free hands to forces to go against them full Scale.